Big Police Speed Trap

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Told to me by the......Police

Really ?

Check out the current (2015) guidelines given to the ACPO (Association of Chief Police Officers).

If you do 25 Mph in a 20mph zone and are caught you'll get an FPN (Fixed Penalty Notice) Double that speed and you'll get a Court Summons.

Ignorance is no defence in law.

 

[welshwizard645]

Yes. Really. But my copy of the guideline must have got lost in the post.

 

[POAH]

No money to be made at all if people obey the speed limits.

don't be stupid.

 

[viv1969]

Told to me by the......Police

Who may also need a little refresher it seems.

 

[viv1969]

don't be stupid.

What's stupid about it?

 

[LongLensPhotography]

Yes. Really. But my copy of the guideline must have got lost in the post.

go and try it when you see one preying and report back to us

 

[POAH]

What's stupid about it?

the likelyhood of it actually happening.

 

[viv1969]

the likelyhood of it actually happening.

What, people driving within the speed limit?
That's simply down to dumb people's own decisions.
The likelihood isn't a societal matter....it's the action of the individual.
Breaking the speed limit is still the only way you'll get caught for speeding... In any fashion.

 

[jonbeeza]

Maybe in years to come, vehicles will be fitted with speed limiters. Simply keep vehicle from going above the limit of the particular road you are on. Emergency vehicles could either be exempt, or would have to hit an over ride button, and so keeping a log of when and why they were speeding. Surely the technology is already here now, just the cost of implementing it..

 

[nilagin]

Maybe in years to come, vehicles will be fitted with speed limiters. Simply keep vehicle from going above the limit of the particular road you are on. Emergency vehicles could either be exempt, or would have to hit an over ride button, and so keeping a log of when and why they were speeding. Surely the technology is already here now, just the cost of implementing it..

My car has a speed limiter as part of the cruise control, I've never used the limiter function though. A lot of cars also have sign recognition. So I'd say the technology is already in use.

 

[jonbeeza]

My car has a speed limiter as part of the cruise control, I've never used the limiter function though. A lot of cars also have sign recognition. So I'd say the technology is already in use.

But most do not use it, and end speeding. Wonder if compulsory speed limiters will ever come in ?

 

[Cobra]

Wonder if compulsory speed limiters will ever come in ?

There are higher speed limits on the continent, so by fitting one to a UK car they are taking away my human right to drive at the legal limit of any given country

 

[jonbeeza]

There are higher speed limits on the continent, so by fitting one to a UK car they are taking away my human right to drive at the legal limit of any given country

Yes but the technology would adapt to your location, and if it was in other countries it would know its location GPS, so it would de activate the limiter. Well at least the one I am thinking of would

 

[jonbeeza]

Wonder if limiters were ever introduced and one malfunctioned, would you get done for speeding?

 

[nilagin]

Wonder if limiters were ever introduced and one malfunctioned, would you get done for speeding?

As the driver is in charge of the vehicle and had their foot on the pedal, I would say yes.

 

[viv1969]

There are higher speed limits on the continent, so by fitting one to a UK car they are taking away my human right to drive at the legal limit of any given country

Incorrect.
You retain the ability to rent a car abroad to drive faster

 

[Cobra]

Incorrect.
You retain the ability to rent a car abroad to drive faster

But I don't want to rent a car abroad, and spend more money, my UK registered car likes the odd blast down an autobahn, He is being victimised here

 

[Cobra]

Yes but the technology would adapt to your location,

Just like the foreign lorries now eh?
You know that ones that don't have a limiter fitted but the UK ones do

 

[Mikesphotaes]

Maybe in years to come, vehicles will be fitted with speed limiters. Simply keep vehicle from going above the limit of the particular road you are on. Emergency vehicles could either be exempt, or would have to hit an over ride button, and so keeping a log of when and why they were speeding. Surely the technology is already here now, just the cost of implementing it..

Tried that out when I first got my Merc, not a good idea if you ever need to accelerate out of trouble in 30 limits!

 

[welshwizard645]

go and try it when you see one preying and report back to us [emoji14]

Ha ha ha[emoji19]

 

[jonbeeza]

Incorrect.
You retain the ability to rent a car abroad to drive faster

It would de activate itself once on a certain road in Germany, or at least the limiter I am thinking of would

 

[jonbeeza]

But I don't want to rent a car abroad, and spend more money, my UK registered car likes the odd blast down an autobahn, He is being victimised here

Would people get the same buzz speeding legally, as they would illegally? If you were trying to drive very fast in your super car, while trying to avoid all the other mad speeders

 

[Cobra]

Would people get the same buzz speeding legally,

You mean driving faster, if its legal, its not speeding
Driving fast in a straight line is actually quite boring, just as boring as driving at 50 through these average speed cameras on the motorways and other trunk roads.
Thankfully there are still a few decent roads around here, that you can drive to the legal limit and still have fun

 

[jonbeeza]

You mean driving faster, if its legal, its not speeding
Driving fast in a straight line is actually quite boring, just as boring as driving at 50 through these average speed cameras on the motorways and other trunk roads.
Thankfully there are still a few decent roads around here, that you can drive to the legal limit and still have fun

Speed skating is speeding, and it is perfectly legal and encouraged

 

[Cobra]

Speed skating is speeding, and it is perfectly legal and encouraged

No thats skating at speed

 

[RedRobin]

The frustrating thing here is that if they really wanted to turn a 30mph road into a 20mph road, put speed bumps all the way down. More importantly, you should be able to drive over the bumps at 20mph with no discomfort or problems or having to brake.

.....Not in my car! I have to drive over speedbumps at about 5 mph and often at an angle. I rigidly stick to all urban 20/30/40 mph limit zones whether there are speed cameras or not.

What are you driving nowadays, Jaz? I'm still in my throbbin' red chariot.

 

[jonbeeza]

.....Not in my car! I have to drive over speedbumps at about 5 mph and often at an angle. I rigidly stick to all urban 20/30/40 mph limit zones whether there are speed cameras or not.

What are you driving nowadays, Jaz? I'm still in my throbbin' red chariot.

wonder how the boy / girl racers drive over the bumps, with their lowered cars?

 

[Cobra]

wonder how the boy / girl racers drive over the bumps, with their lowered cars?

Around here, there are often bits of plastic laying by the side of them

Another road that was recently round-a-bout-efied, a staggered set of cross-roads, admittedly it was a dodgy junction, 60mph limit.
they dropped the limit to 40, double roundabouts, and nasty kink in the road on the approach, to slow you down too.
Its been there a couple of months now,
and there are daily tyre tracks across the kink, / grass verge, with a high kerb.
I bet there has been a few suspension / steering gear issues lately.

There are plenty of warning signs on the approach too

 

[RedRobin]

wonder how the boy / girl racers drive over the bumps, with their lowered cars?

....Same way as any lowered car does - Very slowly and carefully. Speed bumps aren't there for drivers to see how fast they can go over them.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfJN8Yr8nzA

 

[nilagin]

wonder how the boy / girl racers drive over the bumps, with their lowered cars?

My Mondeo ST was lowered. 30mm at rear and 40mm at the front. Never had a problem other than one pillow speed bump where I used to catch the under stray. From the gouges in that speed bump, I would assume some people have caught it with far worse. In fact on the lowered Eibach springs the ride was improved over the standard spring. There is a rally drivers trick for speed bumps anyway. A quick dab on the brakes just before hand is enough to load up the suspension and take the shock out of the bump.

 

[Cobra]

A quick dab on the brakes just before hand is enough to load up the suspension and take the shock out of the bump

Yep I do that in the Izusu 4x4 brake enough to drop the nose then accelerate over as the nose rises

 

[jonbeeza]

My Mondeo ST was lowered. 30mm at rear and 40mm at the front. Never had a problem other than one pillow speed bump where I used to catch the under stray. From the gouges in that speed bump, I would assume some people have caught it with far worse. In fact on the lowered Eibach springs the ride was improved over the standard spring. There is a rally drivers trick for speed bumps anyway. A quick dab on the brakes just before hand is enough to load up the suspension and take the shock out of the bump.

I have seen someone lose an exhaust going to quickly over speed bumps. Even though they knew their car was lowered, they still chose to go racing over the humps!

 

[jonbeeza]

Speed humps near a relatives house, when we pick them up to go out, its a pain going over humps with the car laden with five over weight people

 

[nilagin]

I have seen someone lose an exhaust going to quickly over speed bumps. Even though they knew their car was lowered, they still chose to go racing over the humps!

Perhaps they shouldn't have lowered their exhaust as well. My car had a custom built performance exhaust on it but it still remained up inside the floor pan meaning it still had reasonably clear airflow under the car.

 

[omens]

.....Not in my car! I have to drive over speedbumps at about 5 mph and often at an angle. I rigidly stick to all urban 20/30/40 mph limit zones whether there are speed cameras or not.

What are you driving nowadays, Jaz? I'm still in my throbbin' red chariot.

Still in the ED30. Bought a house and got married so still recovering financially. Looking at Audi or BMW next but everyone round here has one and I'm tempted by both the MK7 GTI and the R.

Hope you're well Robin.

 

[RedRobin]

Perhaps they shouldn't have lowered their exhaust as well. My car had a custom built performance exhaust on it but it still remained up inside the floor pan meaning it still had reasonably clear airflow under the car.

.....I have a custom exhaust system too and it's protected by an an aircraft grade billet aluminium body brace :

 

[Nod]

Maybe in years to come, vehicles will be fitted with speed limiters. Simply keep vehicle from going above the limit of the particular road you are on. Emergency vehicles could either be exempt, or would have to hit an over ride button, and so keeping a log of when and why they were speeding. Surely the technology is already here now, just the cost of implementing it..

Mine has a speed limiter. Not automatic though, I choose the speed to which I'm limited. I use it in preference to the cruise control. Having checked my speedo against sat nav, I set the limiter to the appropriate limit (real not indicated). All too easy to end up at triple figure speeds otherwise!

 

[RedRobin]

Mine has a speed limiter. Not automatic though, I choose the speed to which I'm limited. I use it in preference to the cruise control. Having checked my speedo against sat nav, I set the limiter to the appropriate limit (real not indicated). All too easy to end up at triple figure speeds otherwise!

....One of the very first things I did when I bought my car new was to switch off the alert 'bing!' when a driver preset speed limit is selected. Personally I never ever use Cruise Control and I use a Road Angel with a large digital speed display which is fed live and is more accurate than a car's speedo. The system also alerts me to fixed speed cameras (if I ever need reminding) and mobile speed camera sites as well as the speed limit of the road I am driving.

Maybe in years to come, vehicles will be fitted with speed limiters. Simply keep vehicle from going above the limit of the particular road you are on. Emergency vehicles could either be exempt, or would have to hit an over ride button, and so keeping a log of when and why they were speeding. Surely the technology is already here now, just the cost of implementing it..

....Not only would such limiters create potentially very dangerous circumstances where accidents could happen more easily but they would also create horrendous traffic congestion by restricting flow. Then there's the also the boredom factor. You need to be very focussed and alert and some adrenalin is an aid to safety, not falling asleep and losing concentration through boredom.

It's potentially dangerous enough as it is with drivers tailgating each other forming trains at 50 mph for fuel economy reasons.

 

[Nod]

Mine only pings at me when I'm going downhill and the engine braking can't hold the beast back! Instant cancellation on kickdown as well as a button press when I go out of one limit into another. Having been denied driving privileges for medical reasons a few years back, I'd rather not give them an excuse to take the license away again. Of course, neither of the other cars or either of the bikes has a limiter but I manage to struggle on...

 

[dejongj]

If that were the case you could still travel at 30mph over them. There is a residential road near me that gets used as a rat run to avoid the town centre. The speed bumps are so smooth, not only do you not have to slow down for them, many cars still exceed the speed limit over them.

No, it wouldn't mean that at all. There are speed regulating road surfaces that don't rely on those mechanisms but have it build in the road.

Behind my parents home there is a stretch of link road that has the new speed regulating surface. Go ten kilometres over and your car will be shaking heavily. Not even our air suspension vehicle can keep up with it. It is so annoying that you'll slow down and enjoy the smooth ride.

They removed the speed cameras and signs and everything. It now is self regulating. Great system in my experience.