BBC drops half of F1 coverage

Sky have 1 - 1.5million viewers for prem football, F1 on BBC has 4 - 5million, peaking at 9million. I wont be paying £20 a month to sky for it, and im really disappointed that its gone this way. Extended highlights and avoiding the race result isnt ideal but it looks like the only way. Massively disappointed, i may well have to vent that at FOM!
 
Floats said:
The teams talked about it but it never happened.



All the races will be broadcast on the BBC just some of them won't be live, there is no need for the BBC to rebroadcast Sky's coverage.
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As I read it on the BBC site, they will only show highlights of some races not full coverage even if it isn't live:

"The BBC will have highlights on TV, online and mobile for any race it is not showing live, and all races will be broadcast on BBC Radio 5 live."


In my opinion there is no need for Sky to broadcast any coverage!
 
It all seems a bit strange, I know the the EPL deal was split between Sky and Setanta/ESPN but splitting F1 across 2 channels just seems an odd way to do it, even split across BBC/ITV would have worked better.

I can see maybe Bernie launching some sort of online service to watch the F1 in an attempt to appease those who cannot/will not pay for Sky
 
Wow, I am the odd one out here!! I have no problem in paying for Sky if I want to watch what they have.

Do people really think that Sky should onlu have lower league football, cricket etc... Of course they should have the good stuff too. £20 a month is not a lot for someone who likes sport? The coverage they give is great.

I think everday on Sky there is one cricket match or another, there is loads of motorsport and rugby too. I remember the 80s when you got one match a week on TV and you would never expect to get a lower league team on aside from FA Cup. Now, you can normally get at least a couple of championship and league 1 or 2 games on every week.

Without Sky we would continue with the cricket being interupted by the 315 from Haydock, and far less sport on TV. I am sure that the county cricket teams would struggle if they lost Skys cricketing money. Why should the BBC or ITV get to show only the very best events?
 
I used to watch F1 regularly on SABC - a bit like the BBC but with advertising - when we lived in South Africa, but they gave up the contract and it was taken over by DSTV (digital satellite pay channel). We couldn't afford the subscription, so that was that. It was annoying at first, but I forgot all about it after a while. We don't have television now, and it's academic.
 
cambsno said:
Wow, I am the odd one out here!! I have no problem in paying for Sky if I want to watch what they have.

Do people really think that Sky should onlu have lower league football, cricket etc... Of course they should have the good stuff too. £20 a month is not a lot for someone who likes sport? The coverage they give is great.

I think everday on Sky there is one cricket match or another, there is loads of motorsport and rugby too. I remember the 80s when you got one match a week on TV and you would never expect to get a lower league team on aside from FA Cup. Now, you can normally get at least a couple of championship and league 1 or 2 games on every week.

Without Sky we would continue with the cricket being interupted by the 315 from Haydock, and far less sport on TV. I am sure that the county cricket teams would struggle if they lost Skys cricketing money. Why should the BBC or ITV get to show only the very best events?
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Why should Sky hog the coverage of the very best events?!! I don't think this decision has anything to do with where F1 coverage might be best, it's just a money making exercise for Mr Ecclestone.

Personally I pay enough for Sky as it is, why should I pay more to make Bernie more money? :shrug:
 
starkersclark said:
As I read it on the BBC site, they will only show highlights of some races not full coverage even if it isn't live:

"The BBC will have highlights on TV, online and mobile for any race it is not showing live, and all races will be broadcast on BBC Radio 5 live."
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Ahh it appears I misinterpreted some earlier details. Thanks for correcting me.

Pirelli don't like the Sky deal.
 
srichards said:
I stopped watching F1 when ITV got it and ruined it with adverts. It's a boring parade of money sodden cheats that twist the rules to suit themselves.

Another F1 style motorsport started up didn't? Took some of the F1 teams with it but I can't remember what it is called.
BTCC used to be good but that got lots of money and became boring. Used to watch it on Motors TV when I had sky. No adverts and decent commentary.

Sky should be forced to let BBC rebroadcast their content for a sub like they have to do with Virgin. Bet you direct sky subscribers would plummet if this were allowed.
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Think that may have been A1GP - a form of world cup f1 raced by countries instead of manufacturers.
Dwindled into relative obscurity on PPV satellite channels:shake:
 
starkersclark said:
Why should Sky hog the coverage of the very best events?!! I don't think this decision has anything to do with where F1 coverage might be best, it's just a money making exercise for Mr Ecclestone.

Personally I pay enough for Sky as it is, why should I pay more to make Bernie more money? :shrug:
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They dont hog the best events - its an open market, if the BBC or ITV feel so strongly they should dip their hand in their pockets! Sky dont get exclusivity on FA Cup, Champions League, Ashes, Wimbledon or Olympics which anyone would argue are the best events.

F1 coverage on BBC is excellent, I agree. But why should SKy just be allowed to show things like Formula 3, League 1 & 2 matches, Pool, and the county matches between Durham and notts???
 
cambsno said:
They dont hog the best events - its an open market, if the BBC or ITV feel so strongly they should dip their hand in their pockets! Sky dont get exclusivity on FA Cup, Champions League, Ashes, Wimbledon or Olympics which anyone would argue are the best events.

F1 coverage on BBC is excellent, I agree. But why should SKy just be allowed to show things like Formula 3, League 1 & 2 matches, Pool, and the county matches between Durham and notts???
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I agree with you that things should be shared and BBC & ITV could definitely dip their hands in their pockets if they want a bigger share but to me this just feels like Bernie calling the shots that benefit him rather than the fans. I also thought the teams were against moving it from free to air channels?
 
There seems to be a odd emphasis "no adverts next year" what about after that though?
 
Ultimately f1 is not about the sport or the spectators. It's about money and income streams.
The teams will, for all their crying about the fans and the sport, go for the dough:thumbs:
 
cyclamens said:
Ultimately f1 is not about the sport or the spectators. It's about money and income streams.
The teams will, for all their crying about the fans and the sport, go for the dough:thumbs:
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Sad but true! :|
 
Yet another marquee sport off free to mview,I may not watch half the races on the Beeb in protest at this disgrace,lets face it the British Saloon car racing on ITV4 is much more exciting
 
It would be better shared between the BBC and ITV. I don't think it will be a big hit if SKY shares it with the Beeb
 
cyclamens said:
Ultimately f1 is not about the sport or the spectators. It's about money and income streams.
The teams will, for all their crying about the fans and the sport, go for the dough:thumbs:
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Sponsors won't though.
 
cambsno said:
Wow, I am the odd one out here!! I have no problem in paying for Sky if I want to watch what they have.

Do people really think that Sky should onlu have lower league football, cricket etc... Of course they should have the good stuff too. £20 a month is not a lot for someone who likes sport? The coverage they give is great.

I think everday on Sky there is one cricket match or another, there is loads of motorsport and rugby too. I remember the 80s when you got one match a week on TV and you would never expect to get a lower league team on aside from FA Cup. Now, you can normally get at least a couple of championship and league 1 or 2 games on every week.

Without Sky we would continue with the cricket being interupted by the 315 from Haydock, and far less sport on TV. I am sure that the county cricket teams would struggle if they lost Skys cricketing money. Why should the BBC or ITV get to show only the very best events?
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riddle me this.. why can you get eurosport and a few other sports channels for £1/month. yet sports 1 and 2 will cost you £12/month each or £20 for the pair?

its basically bending the consumer over for wanting to watch popular sport.
 
Itv and BBC can't compete with sky , they don't have subscribers paying the best part of £80 a month plus they have other programmes to make

Sky just cherry picks the best programmes , quite often after they've picked up a decent audience, ie Lost, nurse jackie etc
 
It'll be a pity if it does slide over to pay to view/subscription but F1's been slowly dominated by big business/sponsorship for a while now, it's only a matter of time before it smothers the sport.

As long as they don't spoil the WRC and Manx TT I'll be happy.
 
Am I right in saying the BBC will screen half the season live with the other races being covered by extensive highlight programmes? If so that'll do me as I ain't paying for Sky Sports.
 
Can anyone confirm what I read on another Forum that Sky are putting it out on three different sports channels ?
I assume to get all sport channels is a lot extra. On phone at the moment so cannot access info easily.

C
 
cambsno said:
....£20 a month is not a lot for someone who likes sport....
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It's a bloody fortune if you don't have it, and you still have to pay the poxy TV licence for the BBC anyway..... the F1 was the only thing that made paying their licence fee worthwhile.... no way am I giving Sky any money....
 
I'm all for any deal that halves the time Eddie Irvine is on screen. Did I hear correctly it costs £1.50 for every viewer on BBC?
 
You could look at it another way... More reason to go to a pub on Sundays ;)
 
odd jim said:
I've just heard about this and in disgusted by this terrible news.
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you are Martin Brundle and ICM£5 :D

I am not a F1 fan but this is crap for you freeview/refuse to pay fans out there giving you access to half of the races, might aswell not have it at all, what is it about 20 races a season 1 every other week? that would mean you get 1 live race a month... crap
 
strumstrum said:
you are Martin Brundle and ICM£5 :D

I am not a F1 fan but this is crap for you freeview/refuse to pay fans out there giving you access to half of the races, might aswell not have it at all, what is it about 20 races a season 1 every other week? that would mean you get 1 live race a month... crap
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Eh? Didn't get that first bit!
 
ZoneV said:
I'm guessing you mean Eddie Jordan. :lol:
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You're right there, don't know how Irvine popped in! :D Least it will save Eddie Jordan some cash on those horrible flowery shirts. I wonder who will front the Sky coverage, an Ecclestone daughter?
 
strumstrum said:
sorry, apparently MB was not 'in the loop'
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Ah I see! Im looking forward to his reaction on this this weekend!

Just read that for a new subscriber, 12 months of sky sports, including set up fee is £487 per annum.
 
odd jim said:
Just read that for a new subscriber, 12 months of sky sports, including set up fee is £487 per annum.
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Add an extra £10pm if you want HD.

Seems like a good time to start watching the Moto GP
 
It is utter shambles for real F1 fans. Be interesting to see what is said on Sunday
 
t-m said:
Seems like a good time to start watching the Moto GP
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It's always been a good time to watch MotoGP, the racing is fantastic. FIA GT and ALMS which are free to view on the official series websites also provide racing that is way more exciting than anything F1 has provided over the last few years.
 
Floats said:
It's always been a good time to watch MotoGP, the racing is fantastic. FIA GT and ALMS which are free to view on the official series websites also provide racing that is way more exciting than anything F1 has provided over the last few years.
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F1 this year has been awesome, with some thrilling racing thanks to the new rules. This makes the new deal with sky even more unpalatable as F1 seemed to finally be going in the right direction spectator wise (apart from ticket costs of course).
 
Can't understand it all though as surely the viewing figures are going to plummet now?
 
I have no desire to get Sky and even if I did I wouldn't be paying for the sports channels as I have no interest in most sport.

Oh well I sure those who made the decision really don't care, the Beeb are trying to sell the deal on a cost saving !

Save money fine but surely not by ditching such a popular event !

Maybe the Beeb can offer Sky ever other episode of Eastenders ? Or all of them that'll save a few £'s.
 
PsiFox said:
Sponsors won't though.
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My prevailing hope is that it will be an unmitigated disaster for the sponsors.

f1 is - relatively speaking, a niche sport in the UK. I hope that few people will be encouraged to spend hard earned money in order to watch on subscription TV.

If the sponsors see that the figures who pay to watch Premiership foopball far exceed the number of motorsport fans willing to pay for f1 they may have second thoughts. Somehow I doubt it. Viewing figures and return on investment are all sponsors look at.

It's another bad day for the ordinary sport lover who maybe can't afford subscription TV:thumbsdown:
 
cyclamens said:
f1 is - relatively speaking, a niche sport in the UK. I hope that few people will be encouraged to spend hard earned money in order to watch on subscription TV.
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Nah - some of the biggest and most enthusiastic crowds arent the brits, not by a long shot. Sure - 'home of motorsport' is the UK with a good majority of the teams based in the UK and even those that arent have a large portion of their staff base as brits.

Fan base in China, Japan, Malaysia etc is huge - they really are mad for it out. ie. In Japan the stands are 75% full watching the teams set up 5 days before and pack up after the race - no joke.

Anyhow...Bernie just cashing in my opinion - how much will the teams see of the additional cash Sky are paying over BBC (according to the reports)....? Not that much I suspect.

Shame - ruins it for the real fans that cant afford £200 a ticket / £400 a year on Sky.

Cheers
888
(ex F1 employee)
 
I'm a huge F1 fan as you can probably tell by my username. The thing that upsets me about this is that the BBC are actually doing a brilliant job with F1. Stunning coverage. 900m to move, 45m for F1. I know which I'd choose.
 
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