BBC drops half of F1 coverage

the888account said:
Anyhow...Bernie just cashing in my opinion - how much will the teams see of the additional cash Sky are paying over BBC (according to the reports)....? Not that much I suspect.

Shame - ruins it for the real fans that cant afford £200 a ticket / £400 a year on Sky.
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Currently just over £20 pm to an existing Sky customer - but still excessive I think.
 
the888account said:
Agreed Schuette - BBC is far superior to ITV, only grumble is the host (former CBBC presenter) whos name I forget. - other than that, its much improved.
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I quite like Jake, I think he does well. Certainly better than Rosenthal! You can tell he's a fan and knows a bit plus he's regular on twitter. It's EJ who gets on my nerves from time to time.
 
Schuette said:
I quite like Jake, I think he does well. Certainly better than Rosenthal! You can tell he's a fan and knows a bit plus he's regular on twitter. It's EJ who gets on my nerves from time to time.
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EJ may be an old fanny but he knows what he's talking about - unlike the other wannabe.

And that garbage on twitter...come on I'm not interested in you mate just the f1
 
The only reason Sky don't get some big sports events is some of them are ring fenced and they aren't allowed. If they were, there would be no sport on terrestrial!

Would suit me if all sport were on Sky then I could avoid all of it and not miss things I want to watch because some sports thing over ran.
 
neil_g said:
riddle me this.. why can you get eurosport and a few other sports channels for £1/month. yet sports 1 and 2 will cost you £12/month each or £20 for the pair?

its basically bending the consumer over for wanting to watch popular sport.
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Bearing in minds it cost me £12 or so for my 3yo and me to watch cars 2 at the cinema last week, £20 a month IMO is a great deal for something like 10-15 perm matches per month, let alone the darts, cricket and other events.

Don't get your argument though. If BBC charged per channel bbc1 would be a lot more that bbc3
 
It now seems that, according to Bernie, the BBC will in fact be showing every race in full. Just some of them deferred.

Full article

Martin Whitmarsh - "Bernie assured me, and I asked him several times, the deferred coverage will not be highlights, it will be a full race."
 
Deferred until next year?.................................
 
srichards said:
The only reason Sky don't get some big sports events is some of them are ring fenced and they aren't allowed. If they were, there would be no sport on terrestrial!

Would suit me if all sport were on Sky then I could avoid all of it and not miss things I want to watch because some sports thing over ran.
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Sorry Suz - off topic aint allowed and oh, oh just about to be very un pc:D
 
If there is no sport, there is no point in paying a license fee. Nearly everything else can be viewed later in iplayer which does not need a license. If everyone does that there will be no money to make other shows.
 
jonneymendoza said:
O come on man why all the hate on sky? Viewings to go down? Yea right. Does the football premiership games have low view ratings too?

Sorry but I can't see what all the fuss is about. Ok I may be bias as I got and can afford sky and not everyone can but all I'm saying is that if f1 really is a popular sport, view ratings will still be good on sky
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The Canadian GP this year drew in about 6-8m viewers. By comparison at the start of May Sky Sports 1 had a Super Sunday (Man U Vs. Chelsea) which was watched by 2.5m. The whole deal is win win for all but the fans. Thank God for the internet and live streams, I'll just use R5 Live for commentary (who are excellent anyway).
 
Schuette said:
If there is no sport, there is no point in paying a license fee. Nearly everything else can be viewed later in iplayer which does not need a license. If everyone does that there will be no money to make other shows.
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Iplayer does need a licence!

www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/
 
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How can they enforce that?
 
Not sure!
 
cyclamens said:
EJ may be an old fanny but he knows what he's talking about - unlike the other wannabe.

And that garbage on twitter...come on I'm not interested in you mate just the f1
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Ej is a clueless prat. he spent all of last year saying he 'just had a feeling' and 'knew it to be true' that Schumacher would knock it on the head, and just last week came out with some old crap about Mclaren being out of the loop. he can go to Sky, but the Isle Of instead of the channel
 
matty said:
Ej is a clueless prat. he spent all of last year saying he 'just had a feeling' and 'knew it to be true' that Schumacher would knock it on the head, and just last week came out with some old crap about Mclaren being out of the loop. he can go to Sky, but the Isle Of instead of the channel
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:lol::lol::lol:


You may be right, but like the other idiot, he's getting paid a load of money to talk carp:naughty:
 
matty said:
Ej is a clueless prat. he spent all of last year saying he 'just had a feeling' and 'knew it to be true' that Schumacher would knock it on the head, and just last week came out with some old crap about Mclaren being out of the loop. he can go to Sky, but the Isle Of instead of the channel
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I`m sure the good people on Skye,the Isle of, would not thank you for that.
 
treeman said:
You don't for iplayer, only if you are watching live, the same time as it's broadcast on the TV. I believe iplayer is only for TV programs that have already aired, in which case no licence is needed. :)
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YES. This is right :thumbs:
 
treeman said:
You don't for iplayer, only if you are watching live, the same time as it's broadcast on the TV. I believe iplayer is only for TV programs that have already aired, in which case no licence is needed. :)
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No you do as there's been a legal case already. The law as it stands states you need a tv licence in the uk to view any programming transmitted or has been transmitted in the uk IIRC. They over simplify it on their web site.

Watching repeats on iplayer as for as the law stands is watching "recorded" tv even though you didn't actually record it!

And with iplayer you can watch shows as they air live on tv.
 
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odd jim said:
No you do as there's been a legal case already. The law as it stands states you need a tv licence in the uk to view any programming transmitted or has been transmitted IIRC. They over simplify it on their web site.

And with iplayer you can watch shows as they air live on tv.
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No you don't. I have a friend who was too tight to pay a licence and TV licensing paid him a visit on several occasions. They were told he only watched stuff on iPlayer and they were happy with that.
 
There is a legal case on it but I don't know where to reference it, and it was specific to recorded shows on bbcs iplayer.

That reiterated that it was classes as recorded tv and not exempt but I'll be bummed if I can find it.

At the end if the day the BBC sent going to let people view their own shows for free via their own web page are they?
 
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odd jim said:
There is a legal case on it but I don't know where to reference it, and it was specific to recorded shows on bbcs iplayer.

That reiterated that it was classes as recorded tv and not exempt but I'll be bummed if I can find it.
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The TV licensing inspector was happy that the person was using iPlayer with no licence so I would guess that sorts it.

I've just looked and it would cost me £10.25 per month to add sports as we already have films.
 
cowasaki said:
The TV licensing inspector was happy that the person was using iPlayer with no licence so I would guess that sorts it.

I've just looked and it would cost me £10.25 per month to add sports as we already have films.
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Yeah I guess it does! The T&Cs of iplayer state you need a tv licence but refers to it all as "live" tv not recorded. I think this is what the legal arguments are about and maybe they are still ongoing, who knows? But how do they know if you are watching it live on iplayer, or a recording of it?

I think even if the law on it was black and White, they could never enforce it!
 
Whilst not the most dedicated fan, I've been following F1 for nearly 15 years - religiously for the first 11 or so - and have been to see the British GP at Silverstone.

I've been progressively going off the "sport" over the last few years and this move has finally broken the spell for me.

The emperor's new clothes?

Bring on the other motorsports! Let's see some proper racing instead of all the F1 blarney for a change.

Edit: as for iPlayer and the TV licensing issue, I have no idea but I know a TV license warning appears when you select to view a live program on iPlayer, but no such warning appears when watching a recorded program.
 
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This is a reality of the current situation that we find ourself in. The world economy is in major trouble and the BBC needs to save money. The BBC seem very happy with the deal; I would suggest that they fully expected to lose all coverage so to keep half the races live and the rest in full a few hours after the end of the race will be seen as a great result by them.

I pay sky the subscription charge and have no issues doing so, for me it gives value for money as the whole family can watch what they like, the sky go service allows different members of the family to watch what they want - Is great if you ask me; however I am not so stupid as to realise that for some people it is not an option due to cost.

As a final point whenever Sky have taken on the coverage of a sport they have done a fantastic job of it, the masters golf was the perfect example of that - Simply wonderful coverage.
 
I think I will cry :(
 
Well I will enjoy the rest of this years F1 then sadly I will turn my back on it, I am not going to send any of my hard earned money Sky's/Murdocks way. It will be funny to watch the sponsors turn their backs on F1 the viewing figures will tumble and with that will go the sponsors interest.
 
odd jim said:
Just read that for a new subscriber, 12 months of sky sports, including set up fee is £487 per annum.
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:'( There is no way I'm paying that much for it!
arad85 said:
You could look at it another way... More reason to go to a pub on Sundays ;)
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:) I think this is the positive to take from this debacle!
Schuette said:
I'm a huge F1 fan as you can probably tell by my username. The thing that upsets me about this is that the BBC are actually doing a brilliant job with F1. Stunning coverage. 900m to move, 45m for F1. I know which I'd choose.
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Totally agree about the quality of current coverage and the waste of the move to Manchester.
FruitFlakes said:
The Canadian GP this year drew in about 6-8m viewers. By comparison at the start of May Sky Sports 1 had a Super Sunday (Man U Vs. Chelsea) which was watched by 2.5m. The whole deal is win win for all but the fans. Thank God for the internet and live streams, I'll just use R5 Live for commentary (who are excellent anyway).
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What site are you getting the live streams from? This sounds like a good option :)
 
not sure how accurate the figures are (or where they came from) but reading about this elsewhere someone mentioned that BBC coverage viewing figures have peaked at 10million so far. Sky sports subscriptions only total approx 10million. obviously not all those who subscribe to sky sports will be interested in watching the F1, so therefore figures WILL drop.
Thats assuming these figures i read are accurate.

I cant afford sky, let alone sky sports package too! if its not on free-to-air i simply cant watch it. Nice one Bernie, from all the comments ive read here and elsewhere you've alienated and angered the majority of F1 fans
 
I'm not paying any money to Sky TV, so will have to give up on watching F1 just as it was getting good, and settling down on BBC again. Makes me wonder why I pay to watch live BBC TV, as there are fewer and fewer live broadcasts that I consider worth watching - iplayer (recorded shows) option seems a more attractive option.
 
I have sky but sports packages are too expensive for me I'm a big motorsport fan but I won't be watching now either massive fail this is bad for f1.
 
born-shooter said:
I have sky but sports packages are too expensive for me I'm a big motorsport fan but I won't be watching now either massive fail this is bad for f1.
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Lets hope the sponsors feel the same way, its ok for them to have adverts every 15 minutes but if no ones watching it they won't be throwing money at it. I think the F1 teams should have stuck with the break a way a few years ago and left Eclestone with didly squat !!
 
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