at what age did your kids drink coke?

joescrivens said:
Well there's a huge difference between hitting someone at 30mph vs 40 mph. Hitting them at 40mph there's an 80% chance they'll die. Hit them at 30mph and there is an 80% chance they'll live.
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Yes - but you wouldn't want either to happen to anyone would you? Which is really the point I'm making - just because it's less bad, it doesn't make it a good thing.

I really hope I haven't served to offend you or anyone else with what I've said - I'm in no way implying that people have been mistreating or neglecting their children with what they do, just because I was suggesting something 'new'. I'm strongly under the belief that it really isn't 'public knowledge' how to prevent tooth decay or gum disease - and if I can advise/educate people on something that makes them healthier I think this is only a good thing!

Ultimately, how you choose to live your life is entirely your own choice, and I can't say it's right or wrong. I can only advise what I see on an every day basis, and try and educate people with possibly the best free advice they might ever get in regards to minimising tooth decay. I try and state facts where I can, and not opinions - noone likes to be told what to do, or how to live their life. That's absolutely fine by me of course :D! If I can save a handful of people getting some fillings, then that in my opinion is time well spent.

The majority of patients that I see have never been told what I've mentioned above - due to the fact that usually the old dentist 'was too busy' and made them go 'in and out'. I'd rather risk repeating myself if people already know something then assume they 'know' already how to prevent tooth decay. Cheers.
 
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Cheng said:
Yes - but you wouldn't want either to happen to anyone would you? Which is really the point I'm making - just because it's less bad, it doesn't make it a good thing.

I really hope I haven't served to offend you or anyone else with what I've said - I'm in no way implying that people have been mistreating or neglecting their children with what they do, just because I was suggesting something 'new'. I'm strongly under the belief that it really isn't 'public knowledge' how to prevent tooth decay or gum disease - and if I can advise/educate people on something that makes them healthier I think this is only a good thing!

Ultimately, how you choose to live your life is entirely your own choice, and I can't say it's right or wrong. I can only advise what I see on an every day basis, and try and educate people with possibly the best free advice they might ever get in regards to minimising tooth decay. I try and state facts where I can, and not opinions - noone likes to be told what to do, or how to live their life. That's absolutely fine by me of course :D! If I can save a handful of people getting some fillings, then that in my opinion is time well spent.

The majority of patients that I see have never been told what I've mentioned above - due to the fact that usually the old dentist 'was too busy' and made them go 'in and out'. I'd rather risk repeating myself if people already know something then assume they 'know' already how to prevent tooth decay. Cheers.
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Not at all. I didn't realise sugary drinks were less bad for the teeth if had with meals and not between. Useful knowledge, thanks! It won't stop me snacking on fruit though, which I suspect presents all the same problems.
 
TriggerHappy said:
Not at all. I didn't realise sugary drinks were less bad for the teeth if had with meals and not between. Useful knowledge, thanks! It won't stop me snacking on fruit though, which I suspect presents all the same problems.
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Not as much :D You'll be happy to know that fruit is actually ok in reasonable amounts, there's no official advice that I know of that has been published regarding fruit itself. It's because the sugars in fruits are 'intrinsic' and are harder to be broken down by bacteria to cause decay. Processed/refined sugars make bacteria go crazy and cause a lot of decay.

Again, common sense (as above) prevails - the more often you have it, the more problems you'll likely have. But one or two pieces of fruit in between meals shouldn't cause problems.

Do not however go around sucking / keeping apples/orange wedges held in your mouth/gums (like those at sporting events might). It'll cause a lot of problems!
 
I suppose one has to consider not only sugar in Pop and squashes, but the acidity too, which can also be high in some fruits?
 
joescrivens said:
Saw a friend the other day and couldn't believe her 3 year old daughter was drinking coca cola - proper coke, mind - not some pretend happy shopper type. out of her sippy cup.

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't dream of letting mine have coke at this age.

When did yours have coca cola?
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Never we drink Pepsi max in our house lol.

Out of interest why would you not let them have it?
 
irelanst said:
Would that be researching the internet myths about Aspartame causing all sorts of deseases or the actual medical research publish in the lancet (for example)which debunks these myths?
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Not for those with PKU lol
 
You only have to see how well it cleans copper to know the damage it must do to the body.

I remember as a kid having flat coke recommended by the doctor when i was ill, you wouldn't hear that nowadays!

To be fair unless your drinking it by the gallon load everyday i'd be more worried about the rubbish we breathe in everyday and where the plastic bottle the coke's supplied in comes from and ends up, far more of a risk than the coke in the bottle poses to anyone.

Squash is a diuretic, pure juice is an acid and full of "natural" sugars and drink enough water and it'll kill you.

After D&B coke is the king of drinks and i love it!
 
Cheng said:
Unless it's the sugar free variant, it's still going to cause decay problems, no matter realistically how small the splash. When you get to the proportions where it doesn't cause erosion and decay, then you might as well be drinking plain water...

And again repeating what I said before, it's NOT THE AMOUNT of sugar...it's the FREQUENCY. I couldn't really recommend strongly enough milk or water outside of meals - remember I'm not saying that you can't have coke or squash. Just with a meal!
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Coke contains caffeine, cordial doesn't.
 
i think coke tastes horrible, luckily neither of my children like fizzy drinks, my daughter claims they are "too spicy".

which brings me to another thing i saw during a day out once, which made my skin crawl...

i overhead a set of parents disciplining their kids saying "if you don't do as you're told, you won't go to heaven". i truly felt sad for those little children, nobody deserves a childhood up poisoned like that :-(
 
jimmyb said:
You only have to see how well it cleans copper to know the damage it must do to the body.

I remember as a kid having flat coke recommended by the doctor when i was ill, you wouldn't hear that nowadays!

To be fair unless your drinking it by the gallon load everyday i'd be more worried about the rubbish we breathe in everyday and where the plastic bottle the coke's supplied in comes from and ends up, far more of a risk than the coke in the bottle poses to anyone.

Squash is a diuretic, pure juice is an acid and full of "natural" sugars and drink enough water and it'll kill you.

After D&B coke is the king of drinks and i love it!
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I've never seen anything to say that squash (cordial) is a diuretic. Squash the fruit is I believe, but not the concentrate drink of various flavours. I gave it a google and found nothing either. I'd be interested to see anything suggesting otherwise if you happen to have a link?
 
cuthbert said:
i think coke tastes horrible, luckily neither of my children like fizzy drinks, my daughter claims they are "too spicy".

which brings me to another thing i saw during a day out once, which made my skin crawl...

i overhead a set of parents disciplining their kids saying "if you don't do as you're told, you won't go to heaven". i truly felt sad for those little children, nobody deserves a childhood up poisoned like that :-(
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My old dear is great but she said that, aswell as "if you're naughty, a policeman will come and take you away"... I turned out mentally stable. :gag:. I did get narked with her though when she said something of a similar nature, to one of my kids a few years ago. :bang:

Anyway I digress...

I have made the decision and go along with Cheng's advice.
 
POAH said:
Not the caffeine free variety lol
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I could be making this up, but I do believe that the caffeine free does still contain trace elements.

I doubt it's very much, but I still wouldn't give it to a small child.
 
joescrivens said:
Because i think it's very irresponsible lol

I wouldn't give my kids processed food at 2 years old either lol
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Out of interest why do you think it's irresponsible
 
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POAH said:
no fruit juice for your kids either then :lol:
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exactly.

my kids drink water 99% of the time. They are 2 and a half and 18 months. On some occasions they will have a drop (literally a drop, not even enough to taste, its more for a placebo) of sugar free cordial.

Were you expecting me to say that my children drank lots of fruit juice? Also, which fruit juices contain caffeine again?
 
joescrivens said:
exactly.

my kids drink water 99% of the time. They are 2 and a half and 18 months. On some occasions they will have a drop (literally a drop, not even enough to taste, its more for a placebo) of sugar free cordial.

Were you expecting me to say that my children drank lots of fruit juice? Also, which fruit juices contain caffeine again?
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should be drinking milk more than water really
 
POAH said:
should be drinking milk more than water really
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actually what you meant to say was:

They should drink more milk than water if they are not getting enough calcium and fat from other foods lol

Which they do so .... no - they don't need to be drinking more milk than water - much like the majority of the world where milk is not a part of their diets lol
 
joescrivens said:
actually what you meant to say was:

They should drink more milk than water if they are not getting enough calcium and fat from other foods lol

Which they do so .... no - they don't need to be drinking more milk than water - much like the majority of the world where milk is not a part of their diets lol
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milk has more than just calcium and fat in it BTW and a lot lot less aluminium, copper, carbonates ;)
 
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my friends kid is hooked on cherry coke shes having to ween him off it and hes only 4
not good
 
POAH said:
milk has more than just calcium and fat in it BTW and a lot lot less aluminium, copper, carbonates ;)
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it's always dull when someone tells you something you already know, sorry ... you wanted me to list every single thing in milk? I don't have that amount of time on my hands I'm afraid. You'll have to learn to read between the lines next time lol
 
joescrivens said:
it's always dull when someone tells you something you already know, sorry ... you wanted me to list every single thing in milk? I don't have that amount of time on my hands I'm afraid. You'll have to learn to read between the lines next time lol
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I was actually only meaning vitamins as well
 
joescrivens said:
........On some occasions they will have a drop (literally a drop, not even enough to taste, its more for a placebo) of sugar free cordial......QUOTE]

Bit pointless isn't it? Placebo is basically a medical / scientific term for a lie.
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Joe, I had a beautiful son who sadly died, so strictly speaking I suppose you can say no, I do not have children any longer. It must be very satisfying to be right all the time.

And POAH....I wouldn't want my children labouring under the illusion that they will always get what they want.
 
There's nothing satisfying about being right that someone doesn't have children because they lost them. That's very sad and you have my sympathy.

It's not about them thinking they always get what they want. It's about giving a little so they get some things but being clever about it so that everyone's happy.
 
joescrivens said:
There's nothing satisfying about being right that someone doesn't have children because they lost them. That's very sad and you have my sympathy.

It's not about them thinking they always get what they want. It's about giving a little so they get some things but being clever about it so that everyone's happy.
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Joe, when your children are older will you allow them to have a sp of your Bert or wine at meal times, or will you not allow them and wait the the time when they are teenagers and they go out with their mates and get absolutely legless?

Surely it is better to allow them to have a little so it isn't taboo and it is just normal, a bit like on the continent where they don't have the same issues with teenage drinking as they were brought up with it?
 
Davec223 said:
Joe, when your children are older will you allow them to have a sp of your Bert or wine at meal times, or will you not allow them and wait the the time when they are teenagers and they go out with their mates and get absolutely legless?

Surely it is better to allow them to have a little so it isn't taboo and it is just normal, a bit like on the continent where they don't have the same issues with teenage drinking as they were brought up with it?
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yup, as they get older I will be allowing that kind of thing (although i'm not sure i'll ever let them have a sip of my Bert :D). But my kids are less than 3 years old. They are not having coke so young, it would be irresponsible of me as a parent.
 
joescrivens said:
yup, as they get older I will be allowing that kind of thing (although i'm not sure i'll ever let them have a sip of my Bert :D). But my kids are less than 3 years old. They are not having coke so young, it would be irresponsible of me as a parent.
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Lol damn phone auto correct. Far enough, my youngest is three and a half, he has the occasional small glass if coke, but he is a tea and coffee lover, again not all the time but he has them occasionally.
 
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joescrivens said:
yup, as they get older I will be allowing that kind of thing (although i'm not sure i'll ever let them have a sip of my Bert :D). But my kids are less than 3 years old. They are not having coke so young, it would be irresponsible of me as a parent.
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I shouldn't have let my kids taste whisky when they were two then :lol:
 
Joe....When your children are older they will be allowed a sip of Wine or (insert alcohol of your choice here).....

So you started this thread....At what age do you think you will allow your progeny to taste Coca Cola? (at least in your presence, as you have NO idea what they will be given in your absence).
 
viv1969 said:
Joe....When your children are older they will be allowed a sip of Wine or (insert alcohol of your choice here).....

So you started this thread....At what age do you think you will allow your progeny to taste Coca Cola? (at least in your presence, as you have NO idea what they will be given in your absence).
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See posts 32 and 114
 
114 gives no age.
32...well, I think if you think your child(ren) will be 8 before they drink Coke then you're being incredibly naive.
 
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