anyone else hate cyclists

I cycle occasionally, and living near Cambridge there are millions of them!!

My beef is that there are a number of cycle paths running along the roads round here yet many still cycle on the road!!! WTF!!! If there is a cycle path I will always go on that as it means I will be a lot safer and not get hit by a car. But you get these idiots slowing up traffic and putting their safety at risk.

In Cambridge there are so many foreign students who have no idea.
 
cambsno said:
I cycle occasionally, and living near Cambridge there are millions of them!!

My beef is that there are a number of cycle paths running along the roads round here yet many still cycle on the road!!! WTF!!! If there is a cycle path I will always go on that as it means I will be a lot safer and not get hit by a car. But you get these idiots slowing up traffic and putting their safety at risk.

In Cambridge there are so many foreign students who have no idea.
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i try to avoid riding on the road where i can but looking at some cycle paths locally i can see why some would prefer the road. especially if you can keep a good average speed going.

example include - poor surface, pedestrians/dogs taking up the cycle path, slow moving other cyclists, obstructions (sign posts/lamp posts are a good one down here).
 
cambsno said:
WTF!!! If there is a cycle path I will always go on that as it means I will be a lot safer and not get hit by a car.
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I generally agree but there is one example here which I will not use. The pavement alongside a main road has been designated as a cycle path. If I am cycling along it with the road to my left and another cyclists passes me going in the opposite direction, this puts me close to the kerb to let him pass. It only needs a little bit of a wobble to go onto the road and into the path of oncoming traffic.

In my opinion, this should have been a one way only path.


Steve.
 
LCPete said:
I find them ok although I wish they would signal when turning!
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And proper, arm horizontal signalling like we learned doing the cycling proficiency test, not that vague pointing in the general direction with one finger thing which most cyclists do.


Steve.
 
crofter said:
A jab in the spokes with a stout stick (oo-er missus) sorts them out, something not possible with these light walking poles beloved of the Sunday ramblers, just not up to the job.
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So I should attempt to kill them? What if they have children who depend on their income?
 
BillN_33 said:
Drivers, motorcyclists etc., are expected to know the Highway Code, be insured and have their vehicles tested as road worthy ………… cyclists just get away with it.
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As both a cyclist and a driver, I had cause to look up some highway code a couple of years ago.

On the way to work, there is a combined pedestrian and cycle path which crosses the road and there is a pedestrian crossing at the junction. Often cyclists come out of the path and onto the crossing, hardly looking for traffic, expecting it to stop for them instantly.

After a near miss, I investigated the law and it turns out that the cyclist only has right of way if he gets off of his bike - i.e. becomes a pedestrian! Cyclists are allowed to cycle over the crossing but they have to give way to traffic.


Steve.
 
camerassassin said:
I hate dog walkers on paths when the blasted dog is on a flexi-lead which is fully extended and the dog is nowhere near the loving owner.

Gawd help the poor cyclist brought down by the lead. Owner's comment is usually along the lines of " He was on a lead !! ]
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Good reason to leave them off the lead :)
 
rjbell said:
So because you can't be bothered to put your hearing aid in and can't hear there warnings, they're the idiots!
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not at all ,i don't always remember to put them in ,sometimes there uncomfortable (usually in hot weather) and if its windy the whistling from the wind becomes unbearable ,so are you dissing me for having a disability or what !!!!!

whether i,m deaf or for that matter blind i still have the LEGAL right to walk along a designated public footpath along with dog walkers ,joggers,MILF's and any other members of the public .WHAT I DO f*****g WELL OBJECT TO is what i was pointing out initially the cretins who decide its not a cycle track for the benefit of all ,BUT A f*****g RACETRACK and b*****ks to anyone else .and these racers in lycra are usually of age where they should know far better .never mind it will soon be xmas plenty of boxes of drawing pins in the shops :bat::bat:
 
Cagey75 said:
The latter get more worked up because they could be killed by stupidity of some drivers, aye.

I'm not one of those who wear the racing gear :D God no. But I've never seen them race along footpaths. You sure it wasn't a 14yr old hooligan with a footykit on? AH ... the football shirt wearers, let's dig at them!

Actually it looks like the OP just had a rant after one experience, dumped it on here, then legged it, wasn't looking for discussion at all .... Pffft, drivers! Grrr
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nope still here .
 
the black fox said:
not at all ,i don't always remember to put them in ,sometimes there uncomfortable (usually in hot weather) and if its windy the whistling from the wind becomes unbearable ,so are you dissing me for having a disability or what !!!!!

whether i,m deaf or for that matter blind i still have the LEGAL right to walk along a designated public footpath along with dog walkers ,joggers,MILF's and any other members of the public .WHAT I DO f*****g WELL OBJECT TO is what i was pointing out initially the cretins who decide its not a cycle track for the benefit of all ,BUT A f*****g RACETRACK and b*****ks to anyone else .and these racers in lycra are usually of age where they should know far better .never mind it will soon be xmas plenty of boxes of drawing pins in the shops :bat::bat:
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see my first.

also be careful regarding pins, you'll attract the attention of the long arm of the law and likely injure any passing animals.
 
Steve Smith said:
As both a cyclist and a driver, I had cause to look up some highway code a couple of years ago.

On the way to work, there is a combined pedestrian and cycle path which crosses the road and there is a pedestrian crossing at the junction. Often cyclists come out of the path and onto the crossing, hardly looking for traffic, expecting it to stop for them instantly.

After a near miss, I investigated the law and it turns out that the cyclist only has right of way if he gets off of his bike - i.e. becomes a pedestrian! Cyclists are allowed to cycle over the crossing but they have to give way to traffic.


Steve.
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Depends on the type of pedestrian crossing.
On a Toucan crossing, the rider can stay on the bike and ride across the road.
 
viv1969 said:
Depends on the type of pedestrian crossing.
On a Toucan crossing, the rider can stay on the bike and ride across the road.
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Zebra crossing. I should have been more specific.

It makes sense that on a controlled crossing, if the traffic has a red light and there is a green man illuminated, there's no reason why cyclists shouldn't cycle across


Steve.
 
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Steve Smith said:
Zebra crossing. I should have been more specific.

It makes sense that on a contriolled crossing, if the traffic has a red light and there is a green man illuminated, there's no reason why cyclists shouldn't cycle across


Steve.
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I agree, unless it's one of those "dog leg" jobbies with a central refuge. In that case it's just a pain in the arse having them weaving in and out of the central bit.
 
neil_g said:
as far as I'm aware there are no speed limits on bridleways (etc).
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As a former rights of way officer i can confirm that this is correct (except that speed limits can be established in discrete areas by byelaw , and also that on a permissive path the landowner can set a limit (though not on a right of way)

Its generally irelevant though as bridleways arent generally surfaced so you probably can't go that fast anyway

Most surfaced cycletracks are cycleways - that is a highway not a PRoW (clearly the public does have a right of way on highways - the difference is mostly semantic in that RoW are found on the definitive map, highways are found on the 'list of streets') .. highways can have speedlimits, but as they apply only to motorised vehicles cyclists are not obliged to obey them anyway. (of course some are permisive and on these the landowner can post a speedlimit - but enforcing it would be a matter of civil law not a traffic offence)

However as a cycle is legally a carriage ( as established in Taylor vs Goodman 1879 ), a cyclist who the police deem to be travelling too fast can be charged under the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act with the offence of "driving or riding furiously" - various other offences exist if a cyclist causes an accident by riding too fast or otherwise negligently.
 
big soft moose said:
As a former rights of way officer i can confirm that this is correct (except that speed limits can be established in discrete areas by byelaw , and also that on a permissive path the landowner can set a limit (though not on a right of way)

Its generally irelevant though as bridleways arent generally surfaced so you probably can't go that fast anyway

Most surfaced cycletracks are cycleways - that is a highway not a PRoW (clearly the public does have a right of way on highways - the difference is mostly semantic in that RoW are found on the definitive map, highways are found on the 'list of streets') .. highways can have speedlimits, but as they apply only to motorised vehicles cyclists are not obliged to obey them anyway. (of course some are permisive and on these the landowner can post a speedlimit - but enforcing it would be a matter of civil law not a traffic offence)

However as a cycle is legally a carriage ( as established in Taylor vs Goodman 1879 ), a cyclist who the police deem to be travelling too fast can be charged under the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act with the offence of "driving or riding furiously" - various other offences exist if a cyclist causes an accident by riding too fast or otherwise negligently.
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good info, ta :)
 
neil_g said:
incidentally something for dog walkers that cant control their animals around others..

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview
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I love the part where it says that it is considered dangerously out of control when someone thinks it may injure them. That is about 99% of the non dog owners isn't it ;)

I wish we could apply that rule to humans and to cyclists. Just think they may injure us is good enough.....

Well stop wearing that bloody ridiculous fluorescent Lycra when you go off-road. And watch out for the wolves.
 
dejongj said:
. I calmy advise them to stop wearing the silly cloths off-road as they make themselves look like a target and a big chewy toy.
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PMSL that genuinely made me chuckle :D
 
As usual they've dramatically over simplified the law there ... what it actually says is " Dangerously out of control’ is defined as a dog is presumed to be on any occasion when there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that the dog will injure any person, whether or not it actually does so." and whether the aprehension is reasonable would have to be proved in court.

so its considerably more than just a non dog owner being a bit worried because they are a paranoid chucklehead
 
dejongj said:
I love the part where it says that it is considered dangerously out of control when someone thinks it may injure them. That is about 99% of the non dog owners isn't it ;)

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Well stop wearing that bloody ridiculous fluorescent Lycra when you go off-road. And watch out for the wolves.
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im failing to see what colour has to do with anything if your dog was correctly trained.

FWIW i love dogs and im completely the other end of the spectrum than ST4 but im getting extremely fed up with encountering out of control animal. even getting bitten once.
 
Cobra said:
The problem is of course,
"today a GSD / bulldog / Rottweiler et al,
with much squealing of delight, from both sides,
played with their owners 5 year old in the park.
Other children noticing this act, all joined in the ruff and tumble".

Just isn't news.
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You're right, I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I'd lost a limb to one of mine, that's if I had any (fingers that is)
 
looking at the condition is which he alledgedly kept his 7 bulldogs , i think its fair to say that these were not well loved, well trained family pets - as ever the root cause lies with how the dogs are treated and trained, not inherently with the dog itself (how did we get on to dogs btw- i thought this was a cyclist thread )
 
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It's horses sh1tt1ng on the road that I object to ………. certainly since we stopped growing rhubarb
 
we just nee and anyi police rant and a groundless acusation of racism and i'll have a line ;)
 
It's an ANTI cyclist thread.

I find that some good strong steel wire stretched tight across the cycle path garrottes them nicely.
 
the black fox said:
not at all ,i don't always remember to put them in ,sometimes there uncomfortable (usually in hot weather) and if its windy the whistling from the wind becomes unbearable ,so are you dissing me for having a disability or what !!!!!

whether i,m deaf or for that matter blind i still have the LEGAL right to walk along a designated public footpath along with dog walkers ,joggers,MILF's and any other members of the public .WHAT I DO f*****g WELL OBJECT TO is what i was pointing out initially the cretins who decide its not a cycle track for the benefit of all ,BUT A f*****g RACETRACK and b*****ks to anyone else .and these racers in lycra are usually of age where they should know far better .never mind it will soon be xmas plenty of boxes of drawing pins in the shops :bat::bat:
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can you clarify is it a footpath or a cycle track ?
 
viv1969 said:
It's an ANTI cyclist thread.

I find that some good strong steel wire stretched tight across the cycle path garrottes them nicely.
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horses sh1tt1ng on the road can slow them down a bit
 
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