A Female's perspective...

Watching something positive on TV, and when a schoolboy was asked "what can we do to make things better for girls in school?". His reply was, "think about what we are going to say, before we say it, and make sure it is not something to make someone feel annoyed insulted or scared".
 
dcash29 said:
Not so long ago, that comment would have been taken as a joke, For some with a sense of humour, it still is. However on the other hand, he was stating a fact.
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Was that ever funny, I don't think the recipients of those comments laughed a lot.
Your attitude is quite pertinent to this thread, exactly what women are trying to change.
 
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dcash29 said:
Not so long ago, that comment would have been taken as a joke, For some with a sense of humour, it still is. However on the other hand, he was stating a fact.
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True, he was stating a fact. Yes we all have inappropriate thoughts at times, but sometimes it is best to keep those thoughts to ones self.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Was that ever funny, I don't think the recipients of those comments laughed a lot.
Your attitude is quite pertinent to this thread, exactly what women are trying to change.
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I wouldnt know, the dross money making media advert is blocked on my system. However I know a good number of women, who think all this is pathetic.
and for the record my attitude (before this starts to get personal) hasnt caused any destress to women.
There are more rapes, more murders, more racial attacks, more bullying these days than there ever was. The issue is, that its highlighted and brought to the forefront for news stories and in many cases increases tensions.
 
jonbeeza said:
True, he was stating a fact. Yes we all have inappropriate thoughts at times, but sometimes it is best to keep those thoughts to ones self.
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My God, I know the majority of members on here are old farts with nothing else in life but I reckon there's more fun on Caldey Island.
The statement was nothing, some media scum & PUBLIC making a mountain out of a molehill. Move on and live, ignore it.

You lot need to come and chat to my 95 year old mother, you'll soon have your eyes opened before you get brushed out of the door.(y)
 
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dcash29 said:
My God, I know the majority of members on here are old farts with nothing else in life but I reckon there's more fun on Caldey Island.
The statement was nothing, some media scum & PUBLIC making a mountain out of a molehill. Move on and live, ignore it.

You lot need to come and chat to my 95 year old mother, you'll soon have your eyes opened before you get brushed out of the door.(y)
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I love chatting to older people, I did it a great deal before Covid. (y) :) (y)
 
tijuana taxi said:
Was that ever funny, I don't think the recipients of those comments laughed a lot.
Your attitude is quite pertinent to this thread, exactly what women are trying to change.
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It was funny and still is, it's called banter. Nothing malicious is meant by it. But in our PC society it is no longer acceptable. It's got to the point where you can't have a laugh with your mate at his expense just incase someone else overhears and gets offended.
 
dcash29 said:
Not so long ago, that comment would have been taken as a joke, For some with a sense of humour, it still is. However on the other hand, he was stating a fact.
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What sort of sense of humour though? Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson maybe.
Not people who I found very funny even back in the day. Even then, back in the seventies, many people found them racist.
 
It was funny to you, but no doubt making monkey noises at Black footballers would be too.
DJ's fondling young women on TOTP was ok, just a bit of healthy fun and all a joke.

Sad little man if you think its just a laugh and acceptable.
Ask any woman who has been groped well assaulted actually on the tube if its just a game
 
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jonbeeza said:
He probably thinks he is doing nothing wrong. He is from a time when people could speak to others like that, and it was seen as the norm.
His kind of views and thoughts belong to the old days, and he should leave them there.
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Like a lot of things these days that get torn down or cancelled I think context and some understanding may help us to understand. I'd be surprised if he is genuinely a bigot and much less surprised if he's just a cringeworthy guy with no filter but no real malice.
 
andya700 said:
What sort of sense of humour though? Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson maybe.
Not people who I found very funny even back in the day. Even then, back in the seventies, many people found them racist.
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I have never been a fan of any of the above sort of material, I much preferred Morecambe and Wise, as they tended to mock themselves. Plus they were funny.
 
woof woof said:
Like a lot of things these days that get torn down or cancelled I think context and some understanding may help us to understand. I'd be surprised if he is genuinely a bigot and much less surprised if he's just a cringeworthy guy with no filter but no real malice.
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He probably does not think he is doing anything wrong.
 
jonbeeza said:
I have never been a fan of any of the above sort of material, I much preferred Morecambe and Wise, as they tended to mock themselves. Plus they were funny.
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YES!!!!!

Morecambe and Wise, Larry Grayson, Les Dawson, Abbot and Costello and so many others and the best... Laurel and Hardy.

Frankie Boyle and the like, just not funny for me. More power to those who like them but I often go back in time for a laugh.
 
tijuana taxi said:
It was funny to you, but no doubt making monkey noises at Black footballers would be too.
DJ's fondling young women on TOTP was ok, just a bit of healthy fun and all a joke.

Sad little man if you think its just a laugh and acceptable.
Ask any woman who has been groped well assaulted actually on the tube if its just a game
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You are now using examples at the opposite end of the spectrum. You could fit the universe in the gap in between.
 
dcash29 said:
My God, I know the majority of members on here are old farts with nothing else in life
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Definitely an entry for "how not to make friends nor influence people". :banghead: :naughty:
 
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nilagin said:
You are now using examples at the opposite end of the spectrum. You could fit the universe in the gap in between.
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All part of the same behaviours and attitudes, just disgraceful and no place for it in a civilised society.
 
For what it's worth I miss getting whistled at.
But then I am a fat sixty year old man.
 
andya700 said:
What sort of sense of humour though? Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson maybe.
Not people who I found very funny even back in the day. Even then, back in the seventies, many people found them racist.
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As I have mentioned before, it's a a thing from their time. My Dad, who's been gone a long time now, was born in 1920, and he had similar bigoted attitudes. The jokes took the rise out of the Irish, West Indians, asians etc. It was how they were brought up. As has been said a number of times, you are not born racist, you are educated/indoctrinated into it. I count myself lucky not to have his views and never put somebody's race or skin colour before their personality.

Despite being a well educated man, Prince Philip just doesn't know any better, at least it's good to know that there are many less people like that than there were 50 years ago. But, it's a historical thing, and we should not ignore it, but learn from it.
 
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woof woof said:
YES!!!!!

Morecambe and Wise, Larry Grayson, Les Dawson, Abbot and Costello and so many others and the best... Laurel and Hardy.

Frankie Boyle and the like, just not funny for me. More power to those who like them but I often go back in time for a laugh.
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That's what Youtube is for, a time machine. :)
 
Jelster said:
As I have mentioned before, it's a a thing from their time. My Dad, who's been gone a long time now, was born in 1920, and he had similar bigoted attitudes. The jokes took the rise out of the Irish, West Indians, asians etc. It was how they were brought up. As has been said a number of times, you are not born racist, you are educated/indoctrinated into it. I count myself lucky not to have his views and never put somebody's race or skin colour before their personality.

Despite being a well educated man, Prince Philip just doesn't know any better, at least it's good to know that there are many less people like that than there were 50 years ago. But, it's a historical thing, and we should not ignore it, but learn from it.
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Making jokes about race is not racist. Would you describe Sacha baron Cohen as racist based on Borat where the US and Kazakhstan bore the brunt of the jokes (and he is neither)?
 
Jelster said:
As I have mentioned before, it's a a thing from their time. My Dad, who's been gone a long time now, was born in 1920, and he had similar bigoted attitudes. The jokes took the rise out of the Irish, West Indians, asians etc. It was how they were brought up. As has been said a number of times, you are not born racist, you are educated/indoctrinated into it. I count myself lucky not to have his views and never put somebody's race or skin colour before their personality.

Despite being a well educated man, Prince Philip just doesn't know any better, at least it's good to know that there are many less people like that than there were 50 years ago. But, it's a historical thing, and we should not ignore it, but learn from it.
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Not that long ago, a young child shouted something abusive to me, he shouted it from the window of a parked car. There was an adult male, possibly the father, who was sitting in the driver's seat laughing. It was obvious he must have told the child to shout the abusive word to me.
 
cambsno said:
Making jokes about race is not racist. Would you describe Sacha baron Cohen as racist based on Borat where the US and Kazakhstan bore the brunt of the jokes (and he is neither)?
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I have a friend whose main language is not English, the names they use for some other ethnic people, when translated, are a bit derogatory. :(
 
jonbeeza said:
Not that long ago, a young child shouted something abusive to me, he shouted it from the window of a parked car. There was an adult male, possibly the father, who was sitting in the driver's seat laughing. It was obvious he must have told the child to shout the abusive word to me.
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Quoting my own post...lol

I can recall a very long time ago, and being a youngster, an older male tried to get us to shout unpleasant things to passing women.
 
cambsno said:
Making jokes about race is not racist. Would you describe Sacha baron Cohen as racist based on Borat where the US and Kazakhstan bore the brunt of the jokes (and he is neither)?
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Borat didn't really cross my radar for a long time but when I saw it I couldn't believe what I was seeing as the opening bits look nothing like Kazakhstan. Still funny though and I did laugh but I tired later on as there's only so many times I can laugh at taking the P out of Americans. I can see how Kazakhs were a bit upset too.

If anyone gets the chance to go to Kazakhstan, grab it.
 
jonbeeza said:
I have a friend whose main language is not English, the names they use for some other ethnic people, when translated, are a bit derogatory. :(
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I've had several foreign born GF's and my wife is Thai plus I've met a lot of immigrants through her various classes. How anyone can claim that the UK is one of the most racist places I just don't know. Maybe people saying this haven't met many people from elsewhere.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Was that ever funny, I don't think the recipients of those comments laughed a lot.
Your attitude is quite pertinent to this thread, exactly what women are trying to change.
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The second one about the turkey in the oven made me laugh...
 
Strange to think that the big discussion taking place in the UK now, about women and girls safety and treatment of females by males, is what is happening to females in the UK. We used to think it was the middle eastern countries, that only treaded females badly. I know males in the UK need to start treating females much better, I know we are not nearly as bad as some places, but we still need to improve.
 
Plain clothes police officers could patrol bars and nightclubs around the country as part of plans to protect women from "predatory" offenders.

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TBH I think this is a damned good idea, for many reasons.
Its just a real pity that it took the death of a woman
to bring this up for discussion.
 
Cobra said:
Plain clothes police officers could patrol bars and nightclubs around the country as part of plans to protect women from "predatory" offenders.

Source

TBH I think this is a damned good idea, for many reasons.
Its just a real pity that it took the death of a woman
to bring this up for discussion.
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So long as they only have soft drinks...

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Seven Met Police officers arrested in Lithuania brawl

Photographs of the men alleged to have been involved with bloodied lips and scruffy clothes were published as it was claimed they were forced to spend £1,000 to be let out of jail (file image).
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jonbeeza said:
So long as they only have soft drinks...
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As long as they weren't in uniform I don't see it matters, 7 guys on a stag do.
We've all seen or heard worse I guess.
 
Cobra said:
As long as they weren't in uniform I don't see it matters, 7 guys on a stag do.
We've all seen or heard worse I guess.
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Yes but they were involved in a punch up, doing something they are supposed to protect us all from.
I did see the video clip, and the Met officers can be seen attacking the Lithuanian Police.
 
Cobra said:
Plain clothes police officers could patrol bars and nightclubs around the country as part of plans to protect women from "predatory" offenders.

Source

TBH I think this is a damned good idea, for many reasons.
Its just a real pity that it took the death of a woman
to bring this up for discussion.
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There used to be, in the late 70's, early 80's, a bar in Chatham, Kent, where the plain clothes coppers stood out a mile, as they were the only ones in "plain clothes"! :LOL: This is not a new thing, but it's probably been cut back on over the years.
 
jonbeeza said:
Yes but they were involved in a punch up, doing something they are supposed to protect us all from.
I did see the video clip, and the Met officers can be seen attacking the Lithuanian Police.
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7 brickies get p***ed and fight with police in Lithuania wouldn't have got air time or print time
 
Jelster said:
There used to be, in the late 70's, early 80's, a bar in Chatham, Kent, where the plain clothes coppers stood out a mile, as they were the only ones in "plain clothes"! :LOL: This is not a new thing, but it's probably been cut back on over the years.
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Always used to see foot patrols back in the day, when Police walked their beat. It was a reassuring site, you only seem to see a police vehicle drive by, once in a while now.
 
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