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Why do film photographers always seem to have awful jazz or some other annoying, repetitive music playing to loud as the background to their reviews opinions, advices.

Drives me mad.
 
And, as a deeper answer, perhaps they don't believe anyone would actually want to listen to them, so they provide a distraction. Five second attention span, that sort of thing. I was taught without visual aids, just chalk on a blackboard (banned word now) by teachers who were capable of teaching without assistants. And, amazingly, we didn't find it necessary to move around the room every 10 seconds to get a different view of the speaker, as TV seems to assume we require.
 
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Doesn't affect me as when available use subtitles..Why? cos I'm deaf as a post and NHS hearing aids are not very good :confused:
 
Mostly Vintage Cameras said:
If you want to watch a film photography YT channel with a narrator droning on for ages without back ground music, perhaps I can help! Only music on the photo slideshow a bit like the gallery in Take Hart, sort of.
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Your channel reminds me of the multiplicity of methods by which photography can be enjoyed, relaxing informative and enlightening, Like a cosy chat with a good mate who helps you when you have a problem.

(y)

I want an F3 now. :)
 
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It is mainly because either using a poor microphone . Don't do a proper soundcheck first or Just a camera builtin Mike which are rubbish. Music is often added to hide the original sound track. Cheating in my opinion
 
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I have just been conned into starting to watch a vid, nice mellow chap interesting subject,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I thought YES!

Next minute an effing twanging Double Bass.

ITS NOT COOL.......ITS A PAIN
 
I don't watch youtube videos. My favourite manifestation of an interest in photography is to go out and take pictures, develop the film and play in the darkroom.

I don't listen to background 'music' either.
 
David_Mug said:
I don't watch youtube videos. My favourite manifestation of an interest in photography is to go out and take pictures, develop the film and play in the darkroom.

I don't listen to background 'music' either.
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I don't either as a rule Dave, I read books if I need to learn a process or technique, and ask here of course, but I am trying to research a particular product and in that respect You Tube and google are handy. Its just such a disappointing experience sometimes, I thought photographers, those in the visual arts, would know better than to assault the senses with wild monotonous loud noise. And I like Punk! The racket just prevents me from engaging with the presenter or subject matter at all.
 
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excalibur2 said:
Doesn't affect me as when available use subtitles..Why? cos I'm deaf as a post and NHS hearing aids are not very good :confused:
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Mine are pretty good - and free! Must be some sort of gummint bribe...
 
Barney said:
I don't either as a rule Dave, I read books if I need to learn a process or technique, and ask here of course, but I am trying to research a particular product and in that respect You Tube and google are handy. Its just such a disappointing experience sometimes, I thought photographers, those in the visual arts, would know better than to assault the senses with wild monotonous loud noise. And I like Punk! The racket just prevents me from engaging with the presenter or subject matter at all.
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Out of interest, who are you watching with this awful music?
 
Nod said:
Mine are pretty good - and free! Must be some sort of gummint bribe...
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What's annoying for me is I have top expensive hi-fi gear (bought when I could hear e.g. Quad, Linn turntable, Decca cartridge, monitor speakers), now with the latest NHS hearing aids (and ones before) the sound from my records is crap.....bought some head phones recently to try, without hearing aids, to see if they work with my old Quad pre-amp.
 
It's difficult because a YouTuber has to wear many hats - script writer, cameraman, producer, director, 'sound person', I assume they're spread quite thin and something needs to give- they're probably not skilled enough in choosing the right music, working it into the video or appreciating it's value

I can forgive poor choice of music if the content of the video is good
 
LeeRatters said:
Out of interest, who are you watching with this awful music?
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there are so many \Lee

I would say at least 30% of the ones I come across. sometimes a lot more.
 
excalibur2 said:
What's annoying for me is I have top expensive hi-fi gear (bought when I could hear e.g. Quad, Linn turntable, Decca cartridge, monitor speakers), now with the latest NHS hearing aids (and ones before) the sound from my records is crap.....bought some head phones recently to try, without hearing aids, to see if they work with my old Quad pre-amp.
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I can sympathise with this as I had sensorineural hearing loss in my right ear about two years ago and although some of the low frequencies have returned, my hearing in that side is nowhere near where it was. As someone who is into music, as in creating as well as listening, it has affected me greatly. I was given an NHS hearing aid but as you've mentioned, the quality is nothing close to natural hearing.

Have you suffered any vertigo since your hearing loss? I suffered really badly and was admitted to hospital for it, but now, it seems to have eased off, though I get the odd times when it's hard to function when it kicks in.
 
Moey said:
I can sympathise with this as I had sensorineural hearing loss in my right ear about two years ago and although some of the low frequencies have returned, my hearing in that side is nowhere near where it was. As someone who is into music, as in creating as well as listening, it has affected me greatly. I was given an NHS hearing aid but as you've mentioned, the quality is nothing close to natural hearing.

Have you suffered any vertigo since your hearing loss? I suffered really badly and was admitted to hospital for it, but now, it seems to have eased off, though I get the odd times when it's hard to function when it kicks in.
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No vertigo.... but just my opinion, testing for hearing aids at say specsavers is flawed as you go into a room and press a buzzer if you hear a sound, well quite a few times you think you hear a sound and press the buzzer and they programme the results to your hearing aids....this could end up as a mismatch in the L and R hearing aid, so my problem is I can hear people talking to me but many times can't understand what they are saying. The perfect solution would be to set/adjust both hearing aids to people speaking and maybe music?
 
Bad news vertigo............

I had benign positional vertigo about 20 years ago, I could not get up out of bed and stand up.

I was swimming about a mile and a half three or four times a week and put it down to that.

Te specialist who I ended up seeing put me on a table and inverted it so my head was lower, he then invited in all the staff to watch my eyes spinning round in their sockets, he did something to maneuver my head and neck...........hey presto cured. I had suffered for months and in twenty minutes was sorted.
 
excalibur2 said:
What's annoying for me is I have top expensive hi-fi gear (bought when I could hear e.g. Quad, Linn turntable, Decca cartridge, monitor speakers), now with the latest NHS hearing aids (and ones before) the sound from my records is crap.....bought some head phones recently to try, without hearing aids, to see if they work with my old Quad pre-amp.
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To some extent, I have the same "problem" when listening to CDs through speakers but not when listening to MP3s through over-the-ear headphones. My MP3 player has a graphic equaliser built in so I have boosted the higher frequencies to compensate for the losses in the higher registers. The tinnitus is still a PITA though...


excalibur2 said:
No vertigo.... but just my opinion, testing for hearing aids at say specsavers is flawed as you go into a room and press a buzzer if you hear a sound, well quite a few times you think you hear a sound and press the buzzer and they programme the results to your hearing aids....this could end up as a mismatch in the L and R hearing aid, so my problem is I can hear people talking to me but many times can't understand what they are saying. The perfect solution would be to set/adjust both hearing aids to people speaking and maybe music?
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The free test I had at Specsavers was fairly quick but did show that I had significant losses in the higher register so I managed to get my GP to refer me to a "proper" audiology specialist whose tests were MUCH more in-depth and took a LOT longer. They worked through the whole audio spectrum several times before playing both music and conversation to see how much better I could hear both (through headphones), only then programming the behind-the-ear hearing aids. A month later, I went back for a follow up to see how I was getting on and have had 2 more in-depth appointments in about 8 years. Probably (like too much health care these days...) a bit of a postcode lottery but I was dealt with well.
 
excalibur2 said:
No vertigo.... but just my opinion, testing for hearing aids at say specsavers is flawed as you go into a room and press a buzzer if you hear a sound, well quite a few times you think you hear a sound and press the buzzer and they programme the results to your hearing aids....this could end up as a mismatch in the L and R hearing aid, so my problem is I can hear people talking to me but many times can't understand what they are saying. The perfect solution would be to set/adjust both hearing aids to people speaking and maybe music?
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It's funny that. It usually occurs when women are involved. Husbands are especially prone to this sort of ailment. :D
 
Nod said:
To some extent, I have the same "problem" when listening to CDs through speakers but not when listening to MP3s through over-the-ear headphones. My MP3 player has a graphic equaliser built in so I have boosted the higher frequencies to compensate for the losses in the higher registers. The tinnitus is still a PITA though...




The free test I had at Specsavers was fairly quick but did show that I had significant losses in the higher register so I managed to get my GP to refer me to a "proper" audiology specialist whose tests were MUCH more in-depth and took a LOT longer. They worked through the whole audio spectrum several times before playing both music and conversation to see how much better I could hear both (through headphones), only then programming the behind-the-ear hearing aids. A month later, I went back for a follow up to see how I was getting on and have had 2 more in-depth appointments in about 8 years. Probably (like too much health care these days...) a bit of a postcode lottery but I was dealt with well.
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Was that with NHS hearing aids seeing a specialist?
 
Oldbones said:
I watch Martin Henson he is brilliant
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I like some of his stuff as well,

I will be watching some of his large format vids, he's no faf,
 
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Oldbones said:
I watch Martin Henson he is brilliant
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I agree with this. He doesn't post all that often, but they are informative and I enjoy his photographs.

There's a huge amount of photography content on YouTube, really something for all interests, whether it be picture making, developing and printing, scanning, post-processing, gear reviews, discussions on other photographers' work and anything else you can think of. As with everything, quality can vary, as can it's style, so subjectivity can come into play if you don't like the production of something.

Most of my YouTube viewing where photography is concerned is to inspire myself, in the same way that most of my photography books are collections of pictures rather than technical "how to" guides. Those are the things that tend to engage me and inspire me to go make my own images. I'll use guides if there's something I want to learn though (e.g. seeing someone use the same bulk loader that I recently received!).

I don't think I've ever found a channel where the music has concerned me though, as long as the other content is interesting, but I have been put off by pictures that I don't enjoy, or where it feels like the producer's primary aim is to boost viewership through the use of sensationalist or click-baity video titles and thumbnails (although I'll allow these if it's someone who's work I already enjoy).
 
Actually, given your interest and forays into home developing, you might find this channel of interest @Barney (apologies if you already know of it).

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Pictorial Planet

Sharing tips and personal views on analog film and darkroom workflow. From the author of The Art of Black and White Developing and Pictorial Planet website.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
 
one thing worth trying if making your own video for YT. plug in a bluetooth dongle into the audio output socket on the camera or camcorder. Put on bluetooth earphones and do your own sound check May be a bit of sound lag but at least sound quality can be heard before actual recording
 
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FishyFish said:
Actually, given your interest and forays into home developing, you might find this channel of interest @Barney (apologies if you already know of it).

www.youtube.com

Pictorial Planet

Sharing tips and personal views on analog film and darkroom workflow. From the author of The Art of Black and White Developing and Pictorial Planet website.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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He is inspirational Nige, he makes every process so straight forward and I like his attitude that almost anyone is capable of making their own stuff even with spoons etc if there are no scales available.

I have learned to quickly scoot past the screeching bagpipe intro. :)
 
Oo, I haven't been to that site. If it has bagpipe music, it's worth my while to plug in my earphones and listen to it.
 
LeeRatters said:
A rough count, I watch more film YouTube than I do digital. I fire off more digital frames than I do film :)
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Same here,
But if I evaluate the time spent developing the films and playing with the chemicals I spend more time on film photography.
If I evaluate the pleasure factor then film is far more satisfying,
and with lots of heavy kit, a better work out. :)
 
Barney said:
Your channel reminds me of the multiplicity of methods by which photography can be enjoyed, relaxing informative and enlightening, Like a cosy chat with a good mate who helps you when you have a problem.

(y)

I want an F3 now. :)
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Thank you so much for those kind words.
I really should do a propper F3 video...
 
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The F3 is a lovely camera; if I lost all my 35mm cameras and had to use 35mm, it's an F3 I'd get. Just not with the HP finder. I think I still have my F3 WLF in a bag...
 
excalibur2 said:
Was that with NHS hearing aids seeing a specialist?
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Yes. There used to be a company who provided NHS services alongside their private work - Chime. For some reason, the NHS decided to end the association and left the customers a bit in the lurch until a new company took over the premises. Only used them for batteries so far but will go there when I need to. The new company still uses Chime's soundproof rooms for the hearing tests.
I've also had an NHS follow up appointment in hospital but their room was far from soundproof...
 
FishyFish said:
Actually, given your interest and forays into home developing, you might find this channel of interest @Barney (apologies if you already know of it).

www.youtube.com

Pictorial Planet

Sharing tips and personal views on analog film and darkroom workflow. From the author of The Art of Black and White Developing and Pictorial Planet website.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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How wonderfully nostalgic to open that site and see Geoffrey Crawley's name on the first few videos :)
 
Kevin Allan said:
I suspect because they have to choose something that is royalty-free so they don't get struck down by the rights owner.
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I think that's about right. I have a tiny YouTube channel that nobody watches. And, because of the content of the video below, personal to me and with a strong military and Welsh connection, I wanted to include an intro, Men of Harlech, by Charlotte Church, but couldn't because of copyright.

I got permission to include part of the soundtrack of Zulu, but even so I was warned by YouTube about it, which seems a bit unfair as I had permission :(
 
excalibur2 said:
No vertigo.... but just my opinion, testing for hearing aids at say specsavers is flawed as you go into a room and press a buzzer if you hear a sound, well quite a few times you think you hear a sound and press the buzzer and they programme the results to your hearing aids....this could end up as a mismatch in the L and R hearing aid, so my problem is I can hear people talking to me but many times can't understand what they are saying. The perfect solution would be to set/adjust both hearing aids to people speaking and maybe music?
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Totally agree with this. Having your hearing testing in a soundproofed booth and listening to beeping sounds is nowhere near real environmental ambience. I had my hearing tested within the hospital, but as soon as I stepped out into the street with the aid in, that was when I could tell that it wasn't quite right. Also, as you've mentioned, in a social environment, I find it easier to have a conversation without the aid, although I'm forever asking people to repeat themselves... .. ..rather embarrassingly.
 
Barney said:
Te specialist who I ended up seeing put me on a table and inverted it so my head was lower, he then invited in all the staff to watch my eyes spinning round in their sockets, he did something to maneuver my head and neck...........hey presto cured. I had suffered for months and in twenty minutes was sorted.
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They did the same to me on the day I went into A&E, but it didn't cure it. For me, it was a case of living with it until my brain adjusted to it. I can manage to sleep on my right side now, so there is an improvement there, but every now and again, I feel it kick in slightly. Glad it worked for you, maybe yours was caused by the swimming, they think mine may have been due to a viral infection.
 
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