You couldn't make it up part 2

A private provider so no different to the NHS using a taxi to send a patient home in, oh other than the private provider having nobody to work for now as I imagine their contract is terminated
 
It's a poor situation to be sure, but the story does sensationalise it substantially.
 
wack61 said:
A private provider so no different to the NHS using a taxi to send a patient home in, oh other than the private provider having nobody to work for now as I imagine their contract is terminated
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Exactly, would one really have the NHS check the private hire vehicles for their mot status? Why not name and shame that private ambulance (people transport service) instead?
 
dejongj said:
Exactly, would one really have the NHS check the private hire vehicles for their mot status? Why not name and shame that private ambulance (people transport service) instead?
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Yes l would expect them to do checks on companies they use, one assumes it had trained staff accompanying the patient, would
you not expect the NHS to check that too?
If it was NHS staffed then they are putting their own employees at risk as well as the patient.
Would people be looking at this in the same way if it was their relative ?
l wonder how often checks on such vehicles are made by the police ?
 
Gremlin said:
Yes l would expect them to do checks on companies they use, one assumes it had trained staff accompanying the patient, would
you not expect the NHS to check that too?
If it was NHS staffed then they are putting their own employees at risk as well as the patient.
Would people be looking at this in the same way if it was their relative ?
l wonder how often checks on such vehicles are made by the police ?
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The point of outsourcing such services is that you don't do those kind of elementary things yourself. You focus on the risk area like the people working within and manage their clearance levels. You may audit and sample to ensure they apply their obligations but no point in duplicating the roles.
 
They're calling it an ambulance, and it may have that written on the side, but so does the one which picks up my neighbour three days a week to transport her to a day care centre (for lunch, bingo and general nattering :-) ).In reality it's nothing more than a large taxi, with a single driver and no actual medical facilities on board.

Since this chap was apparently without pain relief, it would suggest that he was travelling in a similar type of vehicle.
If it had been an actual medically equipped ambulance, with staff appropriate for that, there would be no reason at all why said pain relief couldn't be administered.

The emotive aspect of the article is the use of the word ambulance.
If they had used the word taxi, I doubt the story would even have reached the news outlets' radars.
 
Which is why I referred to the patient transport service as based on what the story suggest that is what this is actually about. And one that is outsourced.

I mean when you hail a taxi, or get the hotel desk to hail you one do you check it's mot certificate? Or get the concierge to come out and do that for you?

No, name and shame that company as when they are in the business of providing these services they should run their fleet properly. Heck if they don't do the statutory requirements, why would they do the optional servicing and maintenance to keep their vehicles safe?
 
viv1969 said:
They're calling it an ambulance, and it may have that written on the side, but so does the one which picks up my neighbour three days a week to transport her to a day care centre (for lunch, bingo and general nattering :) ).In reality it's nothing more than a large taxi, with a single driver and no actual medical facilities on board.
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This despite the fact that it clearly states "The policeman said it was the weirdest thing he'd had to do, pulling an NHS ambulance over,"
From another article it seems he was being accompanied by paramedics and was escorted in the same ambulance to Swindon Hospital for pain relief,
but let's not worry about being taken about in unroadworthy vehicles

Just one of the many other reports, purposely linked this one so you can all say it's rubbish

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-ambulance-pulled-police-not-having-MOT.html
 
Gremlin said:
This despite the fact that it clearly states "The policeman said it was the weirdest thing he'd had to do, pulling an NHS ambulance over,"
From another article it seems he was being accompanied by paramedics and was escorted in the same ambulance to Swindon Hospital for pain relief,
but let's not worry about being taken about in unroadworthy vehicles

Just one of the many other reports, purposely linked this one so you can all say it's rubbish

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-ambulance-pulled-police-not-having-MOT.html
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The ambulance service spokes person very clearly said it was a private provider.
 
Ah yes...a daily mail story.
Complete with the required "sad face" picture and the tale of trauma and detrimental effects.
The ambulance was from a private provider, and the Mail are wrong in quoting that it was manned by paramedics, because it were they would be well able to administer morphine either orally or by injection.
What's the betting he was dispatched in for the ride with enough regular pain coverage for the normal ride, and the vehicle was completely devoid of additional drugs simply because the staff aren't qualified to administer them.
I sense £££ signs.
Yes he deserves an apology from the transport provider.
Also very interesting to read that he went right to the press without contacting the health service provider to make a formal complaint.
That in itself speaks volumes.
 
Where there might be a claim, let's find someone to blame?
 
viv1969 said:
Also very interesting to read that he went right to the press without contacting the health service provider to make a formal complaint. That in itself speaks volumes.
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Do we know that, or is it an assumption? The article didn't say whether a formal complaint had been made or not.
 
Llamaman said:
Do we know that, or is it an assumption? The article didn't say whether a formal complaint had been made or not.
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A South Central Ambulance Service spokesperson said it in a statement on the BBC news when the story first emerged. (That as yet, no formal complaint had been received).
 
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