You can have the photos .. but you wont be able to print them...!!!!!

..MD..

..MD..

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Long story short . I did a shoot for my cousin on the weekend and gave her 20 processed photos on a disc..

No charge I said use them as you like.

I had a call tonight from her she said she had been into boots to get some photos and the machine would not do them . So she went for the 1 hour service.. When she went back a hour later. They would not let her have the photos because they said the where professional shots and copyrighted...

I had to write a letter for her tonight saying she had my permission to use the photos......


Anyone else had this...

MD
 
heard of this before on the site and had an experience where i had to prove that I had the right to print my own pics (had to direct them to my wesbite and gave them minicard with my details on)

although a pain nice to see that people are making the effort to protect images
 
Happens with a few different companies.. I had a problem with Jessops when they used to do printing over the internet.. all sorted once I proved copyright..

Its a good thing BTW :)
 
Funny this came up. I did a few shots of my friends baby just onto disc, she went to get them printed in Boots and they said they required a letter. Offered to write one but think they got it sorted with another printer.
 
I pop a text file on the disk releasing the images for printing for non-commercial...
 
Ah but the total kudos is when you go in there with your photo's and they give you the same story........."these hare footoo's are profesionalll h'int they" (spelling intentionally wrong to highlight the Norfolk accent!)

Then you can just say, hey no I am not a Pro, just a bloody good amateur (occaionally, and yes I did get lucky on those pics, and no I am not admitting that to you!)..........:lol::lol:

I thank you, Jessops, Chapelfield, Norwich! :clap::notworthy:

They then initially wanted me to write a letter (to myself I presume :cuckoo:) before I gently explained they were my pics and yes I did want them that size, and no I didn't want them to do anything with them , and yes if I had a printer > A4, they would not be receiving my custom!
 
not just me then lol


md
 
lots - I give my clients a letter with the disk licencing for printing
 
I put a word document on the disc giving information on release of copyright.
 
I have heard employees of both Jessops and Boots refuse to copy or print photographs and explain that the image is copyrighted and they can't do it.

More recently I heard an employee tell a customer they hadn't printed a photograph he had taken of the TV (I asume whilst switched on) as that was a breach of copyright.

I guess all Togs should be grateful some people/companies are looking out for them.
 
daugirdas said:
To be honest *oots and *****ps do a favour by refusing to print decent photos (read: they can't do it properly). Now I only use pro labs in town or on the internet.
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the simple lack of understanding with that statement is many clients do not have access to arrange their own printing in high quality labs
 
..MD.. said:
Long story short . I did a shoot for my cousin on the weekend and gave her 20 processed photos on a disc..

No charge I said use them as you like.

I had a call tonight from her she said she had been into boots to get some photos and the machine would not do them . So she went for the 1 hour service.. When she went back a hour later. They would not let her have the photos because they said the where professional shots and copyrighted...

I had to write a letter for her tonight saying she had my permission to use the photos......


Anyone else had this...

MD
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When the images of of an apparent 'Pro' nature it should happen all the time

When giving/selling images like this I print 'Licence Free images' along with my details on the disc itself and include a standard letter explaining it too :)

DD
 
Don't go to Boots... send them to us!:wave:
 
Actually... I wonder is it actually because of the EXIF and not because they are "Professional looking"? Do you add your name to the copyright part in the EXIF by chance?
 
Was very pleased it happened to me and I was only printing a few shots from a War weekend for my father in law! Snappy Snaps are very diligent.
 
I'm intrigued by this after stumbling on this group on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136243949723683#wall

The bloke who runs the group and is promoting the offer is well known from a big 'stop me from going bankrupt' campaign he ran last year and as such is attracting a lot of attention from his offer, but is this legal?

He's now removed my comments but his reply to me was - 'lots of people do it, and there is nothing you can do to stop it'.

It's wound me up now!!!

DB
 
Impspeed said:
I'm intrigued by this after stumbling on this group on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136243949723683#wall

The bloke who runs the group and is promoting the offer is well known from a big 'stop me from going bankrupt' campaign he ran last year and as such is attracting a lot of attention from his offer, but is this legal?

He's now removed my comments but his reply to me was - 'lots of people do it, and there is nothing you can do to stop it'.

It's wound me up now!!!

DB
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Maybe I'm stoooopid... but why do you think it's illegal? :thinking:
 
Impspeed said:
I'm intrigued by this after stumbling on this group on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136243949723683#wall

The bloke who runs the group and is promoting the offer is well known from a big 'stop me from going bankrupt' campaign he ran last year and as such is attracting a lot of attention from his offer, but is this legal?

He's now removed my comments but his reply to me was - 'lots of people do it, and there is nothing you can do to stop it'.

It's wound me up now!!!

DB
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if the images are already taken illegally from other sites then yes its illegal.
 
I am only wondering - If I upload a photo to Facebook and tag someone in it (I have been doing this to attract attention to my brand for Mountain Bike Photography) and they then set the photo as their profile picture, crop out my watermark (which Facebook allows you to do when setting a profile picture) and then get this bloke to print it on a canvas then not only do I lose money from a possible sale but the bloke is printing an image which he doesn't have permission to do so?

DB
 
Boots whoever, are not trying to protect the true rights holder, they are trying to protect themselves from liability in the case of infringement.

Have you tried buying paracetamol from Boots? Are they for you? Have you taken them before? Are you taking any other medication? Did you know that cough medicine contains paracetamol? Did you know that if you take the whole packet at once, and a bottle of whiskey, you'll feel a bit funny? They're not worried about you, they're worried about getting sued for negligence.

Frankly, it's none of their business and their stance shows ignorance of the law. The photographer is not always the copyright holder, and very often isn't. In fact, with professional work it is more likely that the copyright will belong to the client rather than the photographer in many cases.

And even if the photographer (ie not you) is the copyright holder that doesn't mean you haven't been granted a license to print them. The fact that you've got the images on a CD is pretty good evidence that you have indeed been granted a licnese, verbally or otherwise.
 
karmagarda said:
Actually... I wonder is it actually because of the EXIF and not because they are "Professional looking"? Do you add your name to the copyright part in the EXIF by chance?
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Try getting a really awful picture printed and see what happens.
 
When compiling my family tree, I borrowed pictures from my cousin to have copy,s made at Jessops. They refused as the pictures where by a professional photographer in 1930 (and out of business), but they claimed they where copyrighted.
 
i did some shots for a hairdresser and asda got him to call me over the phone and i told them it was ok, why i couldnt of just been his mate in their eyes i dont know
 
stuw65 said:
When compiling my family tree, I borrowed pictures from my cousin to have copy,s made at Jessops. They refused as the pictures where by a professional photographer in 1930 (and out of business), but they claimed they where copyrighted.
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Pre-1988, the default legal position was that the copyright belonged to the commissioner, not the photographer, so that's probably wrong.

cannockwolf said:
i did some shots for a hairdresser and asda got him to call me over the phone and i told them it was ok, why i couldnt of just been his mate in their eyes i dont know
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In a dispute, Asda could show that they took reasonable care to make sure you had permission of the copyright holder. That gets them off the hook, which is all they care about.
 
Impspeed said:
I'm intrigued by this after stumbling on this group on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136243949723683#wall

The bloke who runs the group and is promoting the offer is well known from a big 'stop me from going bankrupt' campaign he ran last year and as such is attracting a lot of attention from his offer, but is this legal?

He's now removed my comments but his reply to me was - 'lots of people do it, and there is nothing you can do to stop it'.

It's wound me up now!!!

DB
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He's the same guy who asked if he could use my pictures to sell on canvases for 10% of the profit last year. Why he'd want my pics, I'll never know, but I'm assuming he'll have asked many of you, too.
 
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