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Can XP 2 be developed with conventional developer or does it have to be C41?
 
Can XP 2 be developed with conventional developer or does it have to be C41?

If by conventional, you mean B&W, then "probably" yes. I know I developed Neopan 400CN in Rodinal and got what I'd call acceptable results. It's not designed for it though, so when it comes to results, your mileage may vary.
 
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I used to use XP2 but I think it has to be treated like a colour film so a non-C41 process is likely to give unpredictable results. Even if you do not wish to develop yourself, there are plenty processing colour film out there. The only issue I found is that the commercial the C41 process does not have quite enough time in the bleach/fix so I would give it another 5 minutes.

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Yes, it can but it will be grainier than it would be in C41 soup. Pretty sure a bit of googling will find some timings for B&W chems for it.
 
Yes, it can but it will be grainier than it would be in C41 soup. Pretty sure a bit of googling will find some timings for B&W chems for it.
But why not process it the correct way to get the best results. XP2 is a chromogenic film and not based on Silver Halides. You can buy C41 Chemicals if you want to process yourself. Would you put diesel fuel in your petrol car?

Dave
 
I can't speak to XP2 but XP1 used to do just fine in Acutol developer, when that was my standard.
 
But why not process it the correct way to get the best results. XP2 is a chromogenic film and not based on Silver Halides. You can buy C41 Chemicals if you want to process yourself. Would you put diesel fuel in your petrol car?

Dave


100% agree that C-41 is the better way to do it but I was answering Wayne's question "CAN it be developed with conventional developer" (which I took to mean B&W chems rather than C-41.)
 
But why not process it the correct way to get the best results. XP2 is a chromogenic film and not based on Silver Halides. You can buy C41 Chemicals if you want to process yourself. Would you put diesel fuel in your petrol car?

Dave
The film is 2009, it may not work as I believe that coulour film breaks down faster than BNW. Anyhow, we will see, found some good results with HC 110 @ 49+1
 
The film is 2009, it may not work as I believe that coulour film breaks down faster than BNW. Anyhow, we will see, found some good results with HC 110 @ 49+1


Not sure that a colour cast will have the same visual effect in B&W as it does in colour!

Let us know how the HC 110 souping goes, please.
 
Not sure that a colour cast will have the same visual effect in B&W as it does in colour!

Let us know how the HC 110 souping goes, please.
Thats what I thought to be honest if colour casts are the only problem, fingers crossed I will be posting some images.
 
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2009 XP2 400 @ EI 100 in HC110 Soup dilution H at 7 mins.

IMO, grain evident at 400 size, plenty bloom which I could not remove/refine in usual software and had to use Darktable to tweek.

Samples,

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That's about how I remember its older brother XP-1 behaving in B&W chems. A bit finer grained than HP-5 or Tri-X and printed nicely. Can still remember the headaches from the less-than-ideally-ventilated darkroom!!!
 
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