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My lad has just got me 3 bottles of red ex diesel treatment on offer in tescos the 3 for £3 in a special pack ,can't leave it for that ,silly money
 
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the black fox said:
My lad has just got me 3 bottles of red ex diesel treatment on offer in tescos the 3 for £3 in a special pack ,can't leave it for that ,silly money
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Should have saved your money and bought something that really works instead. http://www.powerenhancer.co.uk/shop...iesel-fuel-cleaner-for-diesel-only-325ml.html
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How does it work, and is it only for older diesel engines? We are on our third diesel car, and never put any additives in the car.
 
If you use decent diesel (BP, Shell Esso) you don't really need to use it, especially on a new car. The premium diesels from the aforementioned would be a better choice of fuel but avoid the supermarket diesel. It has a higher percentage of biodiesel and engines tend not to run on it so well. As well as cleaning additives to shift any carbon build up in a diesel engine, BG244 also contains cetane boosters (diesel version of octane) which allows the fuel to burn better. First time I tried BG244 was on a 48k mile Mondeo STTDCi. I'd had the car around a month and already put in a tank of BP Ultimate diesel, no idea what the previous owner had used. I had around 1 gallon left in the tank, when I added half a can of the BG244 then filled the tank with more BP Ultimate. Then drove the car home, about a mile and a half, and left it overnight. Next morning I started the car, it fired up straight away, not that the car was a slow starter before, but the start up appeared instantaneous. The engine also felt smoother and quieter to drive.

If you don't use a good quality diesel your egr valve and inlet manifold could well end up looking like this
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especially over a short period of time if you are only doing short journeys.
At work, new engines are run through a quick test just to check out the systems for any leaks and that it operates ok before being fitted in a car or sent elsewhere for testing. For diesels this is a 20 minute test. The crap that builds up in the exhaust is like a thick black tar. The exhaust systems then run underground and into a chimney stack. They have just had to replace a lot of underfloor pipework due to the build up of carbon blocking the pipes and causing fires. The carbon build up being so bad it was a difficult and time consuming job to clear, it was easier just to replace the pipe.
 
Oh well that's very technical ,I have a 2.0 mondeo TDci that has around 130,000 miles on the clock ,it rattles and grunts on start up but runs like a sewing machine once warmed up ,the egr valve was removed before I bought it ,I do mixed journeys some local stuff and some motorway runs ,every few months I add a bottle of of red ex to the tank ,whether it helps or not I don't know or really care .
What I do know is my old banger goes like a rocket when needed ,I get between 55 to 60+ mpg on average use and 45mpg when towing the caravan ..I might even get it serviced one day ,never had to put a drop of oil in it in the 3 years I have had it ..running costs over 3 years amounts to four new tyres and a rear wheel bearing .go figure .
 
nilagin said:
If you use decent diesel (BP, Shell Esso) you don't really need to use it, especially on a new car. The premium diesels from the aforementioned would be a better choice of fuel but avoid the supermarket diesel. It has a higher percentage of biodiesel and engines tend not to run on it so well. As well as cleaning additives to shift any carbon.......
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I would normally fill up at an Asda, but when I got caught short, I filled up at a high street pump. Not sure if it was so, but I felt I got more miles at non supermarket pumps. I did not do any tests, such as zeroing the miles reading. But did the same trips in a week, on £15 from Asda, then £15 from a high street pump. prices were the same, so in theory should have been same amount of fuel. But I had to fill up sooner, when running on Asda fuel. As I said, not done any tests. Just my own feelings, and experiences. Maybe the extra additives, are being used as bulk, and not useful power :thinking:.
 
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the black fox said:
Oh well that's very technical ,I have a 2.0 mondeo TDci that has around 130,000 miles on the clock ,it rattles and grunts on start up but runs like a sewing machine once warmed up ,the egr valve was removed before I bought it ,I do mixed journeys some local stuff and some motorway runs ,every few months I add a bottle of of red ex to the tank ,whether it helps or not I don't know or really care .
What I do know is my old banger goes like a rocket when needed ,I get between 55 to 60+ mpg on average use and 45mpg when towing the caravan ..I might even get it serviced one day ,never had to put a drop of oil in it in the 3 years I have had it ..running costs over 3 years amounts to four new tyres and a rear wheel bearing .go figure .
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You're not doing it any favours by leaving the oil in for three years. It degrades and gets acidic and is a pretty good way of screwing up the engine. The filters will all be pretty knackered by now too.
 
the black fox said:
Oh well that's very technical ,I have a 2.0 mondeo TDci that has around 130,000 miles on the clock ,it rattles and grunts on start up but runs like a sewing machine once warmed up ,the egr valve was removed before I bought it ,I do mixed journeys some local stuff and some motorway runs ,every few months I add a bottle of of red ex to the tank ,whether it helps or not I don't know or really care .
What I do know is my old banger goes like a rocket when needed ,I get between 55 to 60+ mpg on average use and 45mpg when towing the caravan ..I might even get it serviced one day ,never had to put a drop of oil in it in the 3 years I have had it ..running costs over 3 years amounts to four new tyres and a rear wheel bearing .go figure .
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I hope you have had the oil changed in that time or it will be as thick as mud
 
nilagin said:
If you use decent diesel (BP, Shell Esso) you don't really need to use it, especially on a new car. The premium diesels from the aforementioned would be a better choice of fuel but avoid the supermarket diesel. It has a higher percentage of biodiesel and engines tend not to run on it so well. As well as cleaning additives to shift any carbon build up in a diesel engine, BG244 also contains cetane boosters (diesel version of octane) which allows the fuel to burn better. First time I tried BG244 was on a 48k mile Mondeo STTDCi. I'd had the car around a month and already put in a tank of BP Ultimate diesel, no idea what the previous owner had used. I had around 1 gallon left in the tank, when I added half a can of the BG244 then filled the tank with more BP Ultimate. Then drove the car home, about a mile and a half, and left it overnight. Next morning I started the car, it fired up straight away, not that the car was a slow starter before, but the start up appeared instantaneous. The engine also felt smoother and quieter to drive.

If you don't use a good quality diesel your egr valve and inlet manifold could well end up looking like this
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especially over a short period of time if you are only doing short journeys.
At work, new engines are run through a quick test just to check out the systems for any leaks and that it operates ok before being fitted in a car or sent elsewhere for testing. For diesels this is a 20 minute test. The crap that builds up in the exhaust is like a thick black tar. The exhaust systems then run underground and into a chimney stack. They have just had to replace a lot of underfloor pipework due to the build up of carbon blocking the pipes and causing fires. The carbon build up being so bad it was a difficult and time consuming job to clear, it was easier just to replace the pipe.
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Comprehensive post is that!! Nice one.
 
the black fox said:
Oh well that's very technical ,I have a 2.0 mondeo TDci that has around 130,000 miles on the clock ,it rattles and grunts on start up but runs like a sewing machine once warmed up ,the egr valve was removed before I bought it ,I do mixed journeys some local stuff and some motorway runs ,every few months I add a bottle of of red ex to the tank ,whether it helps or not I don't know or really care .
What I do know is my old banger goes like a rocket when needed ,I get between 55 to 60+ mpg on average use and 45mpg when towing the caravan ..I might even get it serviced one day ,never had to put a drop of oil in it in the 3 years I have had it ..running costs over 3 years amounts to four new tyres and a rear wheel bearing .go figure .
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Use it all the time Jeff,i have had diesels for nearly 30 years .
What i will say is especialy with Turbo diesels is a regular change of oil of every 6 months or 6000 miles (its what i live by no matter what the service book says ) and a change of fuel filter every year is a must...BTW i can service a mondeo for fun Jeff,if you ever need help with a service i can make a excuse and pop over and give you a lift ....
 
the black fox said:
My lad has just got me 3 bottles of red ex diesel treatment on offer in tescos the 3 for £3 in a special pack ,can't leave it for that ,silly money
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I wondered what 'red ex diesel' was, then I realised you meant 'Redex'...:)
 
the black fox said:
My lad has just got me 3 bottles of red ex diesel treatment on offer in tescos the 3 for £3 in a special pack ,can't leave it for that ,silly money
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He did well - they're 3 for £9 in the special pack at our Tesco...
 
Of course I have had the oil and filters changed ,,will need doing again after my hols .
 
den said:
Use it all the time Jeff,i have had diesels for nearly 30 years .
What i will say is especialy with Turbo diesels is a regular change of oil of every 6 months or 6000 miles (its what i live by no matter what the service book says ) and a change of fuel filter every year is a must...BTW i can service a mondeo for fun Jeff,if you ever need help with a service i can make a excuse and pop over and give you a lift ....
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Anytime you like den ,I,m free every day
 
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