Would You Let a Gay Man Teach Your Children Performing Arts?

nilagin said:
I know many Christians who believe homosexuality is wrong. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean they don't exist. As I said a few times it depends on what people were taught. There's plenty of atheists about who think it's wrong also.
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Which proves my point - it's not a religious matter - they're simply bigots.
nilagin said:
I never slithered at all, it's just your lack of comprehension which we have already covered, to which you already responded so well. 10/10 for the response, 1/10 for the comprehension.
Oh and as for your helping strangers over the weekend, well done on your Christianity. ;)
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Slitherin...

Anyone who's read through my various diatribes wouldn't actually believe I lacked comprehension skills. You just like to say things you can back out of.
Whilst:
nilagin said:
Put another spin on it, religious belief can other people feel uncomfortable, which is evident on here.
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Shows awesome grammar o_O
 
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Let's not get personal please. I always believe if you need to insult you've lost the argument.
Let's see if we can keep one thread going until it naturally peters out, without being locked.
Go on. It's nearly christmas month :)
 
Byker28i said:
That's fine, I've no problem if they think it's wrong or that they make them feel uncomfortable but to claim it's against their Christian faith is so wrong and against the teachings of Jesus. Amazing how many people who claim they are religious haven't actually read the scriptures. It's actually the best story book.im sure soaps pull their story lines from it :)
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You may want to dig out a Bible and have another read ;)
 
Serious question... is there any way of blocking a thread?

I know you can block individuals but I don't really want to do that, but this thread is getting a bit tedious and just going round in circles. I know the simple answer is just to ignore it of course but it's always worth asking first.
 
Byker28i said:
Quite an interesting round up on different religions views on homosexuality
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_religion
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Only skimmed it but found the gist in the second paragraph. "Religious fundamentalism has been found to correlate positively with anti-homosexual bias."

Personally, I think that as long as all participants are consenting adults and nobody is being hurt against their will, what's the problem? Oh, and IMO, it's not really a spectator sport, far better as a participant!
 
bindex said:
Serious question... is there any way of blocking a thread?

I know you can block individuals but I don't really want to do that, but this thread is getting a bit tedious and just going round in circles. I know the simple answer is just to ignore it of course but it's always worth asking first.
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It's one thread not a whole section, surely it's not hard to walk on by :)
 
Phil V said:
Which proves my point - it's not a religious matter - they're simply bigots.

Slitherin...

Anyone who's read through my various diatribes wouldn't actually believe I lacked comprehension skills. You just like to say things you can back out of.
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How does it prove your point,
You say you don't believe in imaginary sky fairies yet you are obviously living in
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Phil V said:
Shows awesome grammar o_O
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I was trying to keep the word score down, just for you, Guess what it worked, you actually understood it. 7/10 and a silver star. Keep this up and you may even get a gold star. :banana:[/QUOTE]
 
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Byker28i said:
That's fine, I've no problem if they think it's wrong or that they make them feel uncomfortable but to claim it's against their Christian faith is so wrong and against the teachings of Jesus. Amazing how many people who claim they are religious haven't actually read the scriptures. It's actually the best story book.im sure soaps pull their story lines from it :)
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Exactly.
If viewed as it's true self... A work of fiction... It's a cracking tale
 
I think that just about proves the troll suggestion.

I thought you were deluded, turns out it's nothing that exciting, just a plain old troll, no point to argue, no backbone, no real character.

It's a shame.
 
aren't the people who dislike those who dislike gays and are homophonic biggots? by being intolerant of their views?
 
andyscott said:
aren't the people who dislike those who dislike gays and are homophonic biggots? by being intolerant of their views?
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"bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicities, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them
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If you consider the dislike of homophobia to be irrational or unfair, then yes, those people who dislike homophobia are bigots.
 
Rapscallion said:
If you consider the dislike of homophobia to be irrational or unfair, then yes, those people who dislike homophobia are bigots.
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Unfair intolerance of opinions? Yes

Discrimination of course not, this has no place, and should not be done, but shouldn't we all be free to like or dislike whatever we want?

Isn't forcing people to have the same views bullying?
 
simon ess said:
Sorry Andrew, I've read that several times and still can't work it out.

Phone?
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I mean that someone should be able to dislike whatever they want, not allowing a different view, is by its definition bigotry
 
andyscott said:
Unfair intolerance of opinions? Yes

Discrimination of course not, this has no place, and should not be done, but shouldn't we all be free to like or dislike whatever we want?

Isn't forcing people to have the same views bullying?
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So you'd be happy with someone liking the idea of sex with children, or terrorism?
 
Ricardodaforce said:
So you'd be happy with someone liking the idea of sex with children, or terrorism?
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I don't care what people like or dislike, I care about what they do.

Do you think by locking paedophiles up in prison, they stop the urges that push them into that abhorrent crime? Again the same with terrorism (Well we make them politicians in the house of commons).

However the second they 'do' something, then they should have the book thrown at them.
 
Byker28i said:
That's fine, I've no problem if they think it's wrong or that they make them feel uncomfortable but to claim it's against their Christian faith is so wrong and against the teachings of Jesus. Amazing how many people who claim they are religious haven't actually read the scriptures. It's actually the best story book.im sure soaps pull their story lines from it :)
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I do have a problem with it. If some people find homosexuality distasteful I can kind of understand it, but that would be a problem that only they can deal with.
To say they think it's "Wrong" is quite bizarre. It's part of the natural world we live in, always has been and always will be. It goes back to my (Largely ignored .:)) point that some seem to regard it as a lifestyle choice.
Serious question. Does anyone think that sexuality is something that we make a decision about?
 
Graham W said:
I do have a problem with it. If some people find homosexuality distasteful I can kind of understand it, but that would be a problem that only they can deal with.
To say they think it's "Wrong" is quite bizarre. It's part of the natural world we live in, always has been and always will be. It goes back to my (Largely ignored .:)) point that some seem to regard it as a lifestyle choice.
Serious question. Does anyone think that sexuality is something that we make a decision about?
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No I don't believe people make a choice about sexuality at all, however, I can understand that those who believe it is wrong. (I don't agree though).

This is about cultural acceptance.

Some foreign countries cannot believe that we have a law to make people wait till people are 16 to have sex or have children. Whilst their culture would find it perfectly acceptable to have children once physically able.
 
Graham W said:
I do have a problem with it. If some people find homosexuality distasteful I can kind of understand it, but that would be a problem that only they can deal with.
To say they think it's "Wrong" is quite bizarre. It's part of the natural world we live in, always has been and always will be. It goes back to my (Largely ignored .:)) point that some seem to regard it as a lifestyle choice.
Serious question. Does anyone think that sexuality is something that we make a decision about?
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Ah yes I remember your quote, was going to reply and then got sidetracked sorry...

It certainly isn't choice, you know from a very very young age. Obviously from many many years ago 'some' people believed it was and thought they could be cured.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
So you'd be happy with someone liking the idea of sex with children, or terrorism?
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Not quite as black and white as that though. Two nearly 16 year olds in this country, people visiting from another country where the age of consent is different.
Terrorism, one persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter.

It's all a matter of perception (and obeying the rules of that country)
 
andyscott said:
Unfair intolerance of opinions? Yes

Discrimination of course not, this has no place, and should not be done, but shouldn't we all be free to like or dislike whatever we want?

Isn't forcing people to have the same views bullying?
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Bullying is a ridiculously overused word.
 
Cg_Girl said:
Ah yes I remember your quote, was going to reply and then got sidetracked sorry...

It certainly isn't choice, you know from a very very young age. Obviously from many many years ago 'some' people believed it was and thought they could be cured.
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Some people still do :(
 
andyscott said:
aren't the people who dislike those who dislike gays and are homophonic biggots? by being intolerant of their views?
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No.
One is disliking people because of what they are(and which does no harm), the other is disliking the way people choose to behave (and which does an immense amount of harm).
Not the same thing at all.
 
Surely as a Mum she is entitled to bring her kids up however she wants and she can't be criticised for her choices and neither can the teacher for an excellent response. What stinks is dragging religion in to it. She'll have her trial by social media. However how anyone thinks they can avoid gay teachers in performing arts is beyond me, it is part of the fabric of the performing arts and it it is all the better for it. Kids should be allowed to be open minded and not prejudiced by parents views.
 
Llamaman said:
No.
One is disliking people because of what they are(and which does no harm), the other is disliking the way people choose to behave (and which does an immense amount of harm).
Not the same thing at all.
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By having a view it does no harm at all.

It the actions that harm.
 
I rather doubt ant one can go through life with out being taught in some way by a Gay person.

In days gone by the Performing arts and artistic world generally, were something of a haven for Gays, transvestites and "lovies" in general.
It was a world that knew, but did not care.
This same woman has probably raved over the work of gay film stars , dancers, painters and musicians. They will have designed her clothes, Cooked her food and looked after her medical needs and presided in her church.
There is not a place of work that does not rely on the contribution of Gays in some way.
She is simply refusing to recognise the real world.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
There is not a place of work that does not rely on the contribution of Gays in some way.
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I don't think there's a place of work that relies on gay people specifically at all. Or anyone of a specific sexual preference.
 
viv1969 said:
I don't think there's a place of work that relies on gay people specifically at all. Or anyone of a specific sexual preference.
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That is why I did not say , specifically, in the words I used.

If you employ some one, you rely on them in some way.
 
bindex said:
I take it the answer is no then? ;) Not a problem...
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And the answer is you are correct, I can block you from replying to the thread, but not looking at it.
The admin can block you from seeing the whole of OoF if you wish though?
Just drop us a contact us note, if you would like to proceed with either option.
 
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