Would you agree that this is art.

Yes, it's art.

A better question might be why people are giving money to someone producing art like this. I also like the juxtaposition of your sig below the picture.
 
Not particularly but then so many apparent art pieces are like this..
I'm open to anything and won't dismiss something at the drop of the hat or say 'oh that's just crap' but whilst I get the colourfulness of the piece and the fact it was sauced from the streets, I still can't see the 'art'
The write up with kids making dens and personal space etc is inbuilt to us I agree but still.......:thinking:
 
Can't say it passes my all important "Would I have it in my main hallway" test.
 
If a group of small children get up on stage with their recorders and attempt to play a tune, no one asks "is this music?", we might all agree that it is not very good music but by definition it is music.

And by definition this is art, it was created by an artist as art and has been accepted by knowledgeable people as art. Asking "is this art" is likely to be completely fruitless, it is much more meaningful to ask "what do you think of this work of art?"
 
Something presented as art, whether or not you perceive it as art, is an invitation to think.

Accept the invitation or don't.

It's entirely up to you.
 
If the person who created it says it is art then it is. That's kind of how it works.
 
As above , take a dump in the centre of a picture frame and call it art , who can say it's not . It's quite ridiculous but I'm afraid that's just the way it seems to be these days :-(
 
I'm not fly tipping, I'm creating a public art installation....

I've got a number of artistic friends some who's work I'll be honest I don't really get or in some cases like, but I'm a firm believer if the artist considers it to be art and can persuade others of that case then fair play to them, it's not personally something I like but then there's a lot in this world I don't really like but if it brightens the world a little more power to them
 
sirch said:
it was created by an artist as art and has been accepted by knowledgeable people as art.
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What makes these people 'knowledgeable'?

I suspect it's more who you know - if you have the right friends in the art world they spread the word and it gathers momentum as they all want to be seen as being 'on trend'. Like the fashion world and all those sheep.

Or am I just an old cynic?
 
f1charlie said:
What makes these people 'knowledgeable'?
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The fact that they have studied art for many years. Gallery directors are not just any old gullible fools, they know something about the history of art, what is currently selling and what the public want to see. It might be a good marketing strategy to put something outrageous in your gallery to grab the attention of the tabloids but then it is the tabloids who are being fooled not the art establishment, who, I suspect, know exactly what they are doing...
 
viv1969 said:
It resembles an explosion in an IKEA warehouse.
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I was thinking more reject pile behind a charity shop but the sentiment's the same!
 
Nod said:
I was thinking more reject pile behind a charity shop but the sentiment's the same!
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So is the quality of the furniture in question.
 
Yes, this is art; as said above if it is presented as art, then its art.

Art has to appeal in some way to the observer. Kandinsky, Vermeer, Brueghel the Elder, Bosch, Giacometti, Perry's ceramics, to name just a few, all connect with me in some way, though I'm not always sure how.

I, and possibly others too, sometimes look at art and think, 'I could have done that'. There is nothing by the above artists to which I could say, “I could have done that”, but speaking as someone who can paint a wall about as well as, I suspect, the average baboon, I think I could have done the painting on this prize winning piece and probably assembled it too.

I can't connect with this piece at all. This might say a lot about my lack of artistic knowledge but even after I read the full article I couldn't, 'get it'.


I think a quote attributed to Ansel Adams about photographs could be extended to art in general -

“A true photograph need not be explained, nor can it be explained in words”

In checking the above quote I also found another of his -

“No man has the right to dictate what other men have the right to perceive, create or produce, but all should be encouraged to reveal themselves, their perceptions and emotions, and to build confidence in the creative spirit.”

Dave

If this is displayed somewhere I hope it is well labelled.
 
viv1969 said:
And hopefully nowhere near a refuse collection point. ;)
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Maybe that idea could be used to define what IS art. (y)

Place the `art` by the side of a recycling centre, be it a sculpture, a painting, pottery.............. or a pile of carefully placed old furniture & see if anyone wants to take it home, or chuck it in the skip! :D
 
Art is a curious thing, because we seem to expect it to be transcendent in some way. No-one would pick up a piece of paper covered in writing and ask "is this an essay?".

At the same time, Dave's comment is helpful: good art should lift us in some way, rather than making us feel meaner and poorer for observing it.
 
Art is in the eye of the artist, or so they say.
I've studied art for many years, including appreciation, history, symbolism, technique, form etc. and yet I've never understood the merit of installations like these.
 
boyfalldown said:
Has people talking about it, doesn't it
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No, it has people talking about disappointment with poor art, which isn't quite the same.

If someone hadn't started a discssion here, I'm sure most of us would never have given it a second glance, and if it hadn't had the headline attached that someone had been awarded £10,000 for putting it together then we'd never have even noticed it at all. As is usually the case, it's not the art itself that starts a discussion, but the circumstances or marketing around the piece.
 
As near art as my next (rhymes with art)!
 
ancient_mariner said:
No, it has people talking about disappointment with poor art, which isn't quite the same.
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I didn't say I thought it was good art.....

I'm not seeing people discussing other pieces they regard as equally poor though...
 
Given who sponsors the award, perhaps the judges were three sheets to the wind! :D
 
boyfalldown said:
I didn't say I thought it was good art.....

I'm not seeing people discussing other pieces they regard as equally poor though...
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Questions weren't asked about other "art installations" though...Only this one.
 
It looks like my brothers place after his grand kids have been round.

I'm sure he'll be impressed to know they are all "Little artists"

:D
 
Cg_Girl said:
Not particularly but then so many apparent art pieces are like this..
I'm open to anything and won't dismiss something at the drop of the hat or say 'oh that's just crap' but whilst I get the colourfulness of the piece and the fact it was sauced from the streets, I still can't see the 'art'
The write up with kids making dens and personal space etc is inbuilt to us I agree but still.......:thinking:
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stumac said:
As above , take a dump in the centre of a picture frame and call it art , who can say it's not . It's quite ridiculous but I'm afraid that's just the way it seems to be these days :-(
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MWHCVT said:
I'm not fly tipping, I'm creating a public art installation....

I've got a number of artistic friends some who's work I'll be honest I don't really get or in some cases like, but I'm a firm believer if the artist considers it to be art and can persuade others of that case then fair play to them, it's not personally something I like but then there's a lot in this world I don't really like but if it brightens the world a little more power to them
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f1charlie said:
What makes these people 'knowledgeable'?

I suspect it's more who you know - if you have the right friends in the art world they spread the word and it gathers momentum as they all want to be seen as being 'on trend'. Like the fashion world and all those sheep.

Or am I just an old cynic?
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drounding said:
Art is in the eye of the artist, or so they say.
I've studied art for many years, including appreciation, history, symbolism, technique, form etc. and yet I've never understood the merit of installations like these.
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drb52 said:
I see a lot of this every year on November 5th :thinking:
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Not everyone, but enough.
 
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