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Ok so I have had a 400D for several months now and slowly finding my way around DSLR's.
I can see that this newly re-found hobby is gonna cost me a few quid before I am done! :D

I also have a 70-300mm lens 18-55mm kit lens and a 100mm macro (all Canon)
Now, I am happy with the results from the 400D, tho' I still a lot to learn.

My questions would be, if I had circa £1000 +/- a few quid, to spend on a DSLR body would I get noticably better results, from a diifferant body?
If so which one?

Or would I be better off putting the cash into an L series lens?
I guess the answers to this is many fold but I would be interested to hear what ya think
Ta!
 
You wont see results that are significantly different between a 350D and a 1D MK2n, so unless you're going full frame (where you will see a difference) you're probably better off spending the money on glass if it's image quality you're after.

Those pro bodies have their advantages, but they're mainly in build quality, weather sealing and better compatibility with converters (where you retain AF with smaller apertures). Other than that they generally have a host of extra features and adjustments , some of which you'll never use, but they're there if you need them.

Ugrade your body if you feel the need, but good glass will retain it's value long after the body is worth about a tenner on ebay, and will do more for your shots anyway. ;)
 
CT said:
You wont see results that are significantly different between a 350D and a 1D MK2n, so unless you're going full frame (where you will see a difference) you're probably better of spending the money on glass if it's image quality you're after.

Those pro bodies have their advantages, but they're mainly in build quality, weather sealing and better compatibility with converters (where you retain AF with smaller apertures). Other than that they generally have a host of extra features and adjustments , some of which you'll never use, but they're there if you need them.

Ugrade your body if you feel the need, but good glass will retain it's value long after the body is worth about a tenner on ebay, and will do more for your shots anyway. ;)
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Thanks CT I didn't make that bit clear did I?:D Yes I was talking Image quality
 
mij said:
Okay, instead how about you keep the 400D and give me the £1000 then?

Michael.
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Ah but the hypothetical grand is hypothetically spent, hypothectically speaking that is :D
And for the kiddies, the answer is still NO :lol:
 
Glass. :thumbs:
Tho at the L end the hypothetical wont get you much real white real estate :(
1 maybe 2 bits if you are lucky
 
oldgit said:
Glass. :thumbs:
Tho at the L end the hypothetical wont get you much real white real estate :(
1 maybe 2 bits if you are lucky
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Thanks Paul It was a toss up between a new body or lens just the one "peice" is plenty for now :D
 
100-400L? .... although there's strong rumours of a new version coming out soon.
 
CT said:
100-400L? .... although there's strong rumours of a new version coming out soon.
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That was something I am concidering Cedric but The push pull seems a little "old fashioned" to me. I didn't know about the rumoured new version, thanks for the heads up :thumbs:
 
Cobra said:
That was something I am concidering Cedric but The push pull seems a little "old fashioned" to me. I didn't know about the rumoured new version, thanks for the heads up :thumbs:
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Push pull :thinking: what's that mean?:shrug: Old fashioned it may be, but it is still jargon to those who don't 'ave a clue :lol: Please explain.
 
The zoom on the lens is a "push-pull" motion rather than a twist. So you push the lens away from you to zoom in, and pull it back towards you to zoom out.
 
Ah! I see. I have never seen one of those. Thanks Matt.
 
I'd go glass all the time. I have a 1D (and another on the way) but they are only really useful with extremes - high speed, very low light, bad weather, etc.

Lenses can be used throughout.

I'd be tempted to get a decent standard-ish prime or a high speed standard zoom (50 f/1.8, Sigma 30mm EX, Canon 24-105, Canon 24-70, Canon 17-55 IS, Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 etc)

If you think you may go full frame in the future then discount some of those options (EF-S on Canon and DC on Sigma)

The other option would be a good wideangle (10-22 or similar).

I'd stick with the 400 for now, I've seen some great results from them.
 
grumpybadger said:
I'd go glass all the time. I have a 1D (and another on the way) but they are only really useful with extremes - high speed, very low light, bad weather, etc.

Lenses can be used throughout.

I'd be tempted to get a decent standard-ish prime or a high speed standard zoom (50 f/1.8, Sigma 30mm EX, Canon 24-105, Canon 24-70, Canon 17-55 IS, Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 etc)

If you think you may go full frame in the future then discount some of those options (EF-S on Canon and DC on Sigma)

The other option would be a good wideangle (10-22 or similar).

I'd stick with the 400 for now, I've seen some great results from them.
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Thanks for that :thumbs:
I am sure that the 400 D is better than I am, and I am happy with.
I just wondered if the "extra" £1000 or so was actually worth it, (for a body)
The general concensus seem to be no. I must admit I was slightly surprised but that why I asked these questions before I spend (have Received :D ) my bonus
 
Putting L series glass onto your 400D will yield better results than using your current lenses on a better body.

Get the glass then the body - the higher end EOS's do focus faster and more accurately than the lower end ones.

For your grand tho, go buy a decent L series. The 70-200mm F2.8 would be a good choice and maybe later the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters for a bit of reach. Gives you a real flexible package!

This is where I am going - I currently have similar to you! Have tried other lenses from my friend and this is definitely the best bang for buck route.
 
desantnik said:
Putting L series glass onto your 400D will yield better results than using your current lenses on a better body.

Get the glass then the body - the higher end EOS's do focus faster and more accurately than the lower end ones.

For your grand tho, go buy a decent L series. The 70-200mm F2.8 would be a good choice and maybe later the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters for a bit of reach. Gives you a real flexible package!

This is where I am going - I currently have similar to you! Have tried other lenses from my friend and this is definitely the best bang for buck route.
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Great :thumbs: thanks for that. I must admit that was, what I was hoping to hear, in all honesty.
Having to learm my way around another "body"
( Janice alert :D )
was something I was hoping to avoid for now and "yet awhile"
 
: psst :
do a bit of saving and .. get the IS version
 
desantnik said:
For your grand tho, go buy a decent L series. The 70-200mm F2.8 would be a good choice and maybe later the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters for a bit of reach. Gives you a real flexible package!
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Would also think about this lens at F2.8 also as there is a F4.0 versioin which is not only a lot lighter but have yet to find a situation unless really fading light that have ever needed to use at F2.8 to be fair and save yourself 300.00 towards the 24-105 IS USM which is a quality lens for general at about 600.00 ish
 
Sadly, £1000 does'nt go far with L glass.......it won't reach the 70-200 f2.8 for example, without an extra boost from you. Do as OG says though, and get IS....it's worth every penny!

( I love my 24-70 f2.8 but.......wish it had IS).

Happy shopping!
 
Cobra said:
That was something I am concidering Cedric but The push pull seems a little "old fashioned" to me. I didn't know about the rumoured new version, thanks for the heads up :thumbs:
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I like the fast push/pull action - no confusion about which way to turn that zoom ring in the heat of the moment.

There's still no confirmation of the rumoured new lens, so it could be just a rumour. Andy Rouse hasn't been able to glean any useful info from talks with Canon top brass. :shrug:

It's difficult to see how they could really improve it. Weather sealing would be the obvious improvement. A faster max aperture would carry a hefty price tag. I'd go ahead and get the 100-400L if it 's what you fancy. As a general purpose sport/wildlife lens, it's difficult to beat for flexibility. The only drawback with it as far as I'm concerned is losing AF with the 20D when using a converter, but it produces some tack sharp images. :)
 
Thanks guys!
Paul, I guess I would actually go for the IS version ( I have the 70-300 IS USM) but for crissakes don't tell the Mrs :lol:

CT, I take your point about "which way to turn"

Nuffink, I also take your points about f/4 "over" f/2.8 I guess I had better start reading and saving "a bit extra" You never know where this might end :D
 
photostar_1 said:
Sadly, £1000 does'nt go far with L glass.......it won't reach the 70-200 f2.8 for example, without an extra boost from you.
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Well, unless you are playing with teleconverters I'd say the IS might well be a waste of time until you get over 200mm... but still, each to their own.

Anyway, you can get the f2.8 IS version and some change from a grand from HK...
 
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