Workflow - After Effects & Premier Pro

[jpwild]

Hello, fantastic forum here and in the process of doing lots of reading.

I've been in photography for a while for quite a few years now, and now in a position to pursue another desire of mine - videography and editing. I've been messing about with functions and effects of effects and happy with the challenge of that.

However, some other issues I have in general that I am trying to get my head around.

For now, I will be using a Canon 5D with latest firmware.

I have Adobe Master Suite 5.5 and Windows 7x64. Computer has 6GB Ram, Ati 5800 GFX and I7 920 CPu - Quad core. I am also investing in Trapcode and RedGiant software for added effects as well as coupel of Video Copilot things.

I will be dealing with 720P (for now) may go up to 1080P in future, but now 720P at 24fps or 25fps - whatever PAL is as I am from the UK.

However, I have read posts on here that footage straight from my camera needs to be transcoded to a more editable format. Since I have latest firmware on camera and CS5.5 do I still need to do this, or can I just simply edit the 'raw' footage?

However, the main issue is how I put shots together in the first place. I will be recording all sound through camera ( I know that's terrible, but for now will have to do ) and would like to add music to video and other sound effects.

I don't think After Effects specialises in adding sound, so maybe more so for Premier Pro? However, I am not to sure as to how to work these with each other in a logical process.

Assuming I have say a project that's 5 minutes long. I have lots of shots that need to be 'stitched' together, need effects done with colour (on all shots) and adding sound. I would imagine I 'stitch' the shots first in Premier Pro? Save/render it then open it in After Effects.

However, that would surely result in having to return to Premier Pro again to deal with sound effects that will arrise from adding effects such as fire or explosions, for example. Seems a bit long winded to do it that way.

All output will be 720P and would like it to be .MOV always.

I hope someone can assist, and I hope I have provided enough. Many thanks to anyone who can provide me with some pointers.

Thank you.

 

[Phil Young]

Hello there

Quite a bit of info there, nice to see as it really does help!

Your editing station is very capable and you I would imagine you'll be using a combination of premiere.pro mainly for your cutting and editing. After effects for effects and animations that you render and put together in your edit in premiere pro. Finally you will want to use soundbooth for your audio editing.

The 3 will work in harmony to deliver the best results. You can animate text to a degree in premiere pro, but for best results use AE. You CAN edit audio in PP but it's best to right click on the audio in the edit and "edit in soundbooth".

In essence, your main work station will be PP and the rest are rendered into it.

You should be able to edit files straight from camera, the file format will go straight in i'm sure.

Lastly.

Shoot in 1080p (or always your highest resolution) You can always edit in 720p and downsize your files to 67% to maintain quality This will give you flexibility in the edit as working with a file you can crop allows you to use effects such as zooming and sliding without losing quality.

Same with stills, shoot in your max size to maintain flexibility in post production.

Hope this all helps.

 

[oldnick]

I'm not an Premier editor but have seen it demoed. Very, very impressive. It's the first application you need to learn and can do most things you need. However when you want something more, mark an in and an out, right click and select send to after effects. When you've created your effect, just go back to premier and it's updated. Brilliant. The same technique works for the whole adobe suite. Having said this Premier will take a while to learn, After Effects could to take a whole lifetime.

 

[Grizu]

In Premiere pro you have the option to use Adobe dynamic link, under the file header, which will allow you to import a saved after effects comp without having to render it out of AE. So for all your cutting, sound, etc use PP and if you have some footage you want to specifically animate, maybe with twixtor, trapcode, etc, import the raw file into AE, make any adjustments, animation or effects on the footage. Save it as an AEP file, then go back into PP and dynamically link it. If you find that you want to change the animation, text go back into AE, make the changes and save again and PP will automatically be updated.

As regards native editing of the raw files, CS5 will work with raw files directly, no need for trans coding at all, for a great vid tut on this have a look at my blog entry.

Also have a look at Magic Lantern. Its firmware for canon cameras and opens up a whole menu specifically designed for videographers shooting on dslr's. It does come with a warning that it can cause bricking in the camera but everyone I know who uses it, and thats quite a lot of people, swear by it...

http://www.fisheyeproduction.com/3/category/native dslr editing in premiere pro cs59216be61a6/1.html

Hope this helps....