Wolves in Scotland

Having a few hundred wolves in the wild in their rightful home is not going to put your place at the top of the precious food chain at risk. At all. Typical textbook overreaction.
 
norters said:
When this happens I will be itching to get there to see them. They are my absolute favourite animal and to even see one in the wild from a great distance would be an enormous privilege.
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Why not have them introduced closer, then you can have a close encounter with a bear, tell us all about it.

The reality of bears, wolves, etc could be really nasty and harm our farming, and our enjoyment of the great outdoors and pose a significant threat to people out in the country
 
ST4 said:
Why not have them introduced closer, then you can have a close encounter with a bear, tell us all about it.

The reality of bears, wolves, etc could be really nasty and harm our farming, and our enjoyment of the great outdoors and pose a significant threat to people out in the country
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If wild wolves were introduced to Sefton Park I would go and try to see them from a safe distance. They are beautiful, elegant animals that were native to this country until the nineteenth century. I wouldn't take some bonitos and try and feed them or do anything else to put myself at risk. Because I am not a mentalist.
 
norters said:
Having a few hundred wolves in the wild in their rightful home is not going to put your place at the top of the precious food chain at risk. At all. Typical textbook overreaction.
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Doubt its rightful, what benefit to the Wolves is it to bring them here anyway? It's just a sillyness we don't as a country need.
 
A wolf wouldn't attack a human anyway. It would in all likelihood see you and scarper. You're bigger than it.
 
ST4 said:
Doubt its rightful, what benefit to the Wolves is it to bring them here anyway? It's just a sillyness we don't as a country need.
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You should definitely write a strongly worded letter to your mp.
 
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norters said:
Having a few hundred wolves in the wild in their rightful home is not going to put your place at the top of the precious food chain at risk. At all. Typical textbook overreaction.
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I'm not worried about me but there are an awful lot of farmers with livestock that would be in danger. Here's a question, a farmer can shoot a dog on his land, would he be allowed to shoot a wolf? The wolf knows no more about land boundaries than a dog does but they'll be protected.
 
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norters said:
A wolf wouldn't attack a human anyway. It would in all likelihood see you and scarper. You're bigger than it.
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Pack of wolves, what about are farm stock. Farmers can well do without sheep getting killed. Its a tough living.

bear certainly would. Just better for humans these aren't about. I am glad I don't live in an animal infested country. I'd hate to be in a place with wolves, lions, tigers etc.
 
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Uneducated_Rick said:
Snow leopards aren't a native animal to Britain.

Wolves, bears and beavers (amongst others) are and should be reintroduced.
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Slightly off topic but we've already over 100 beaver here on the Tay.

Their impact is still under study.
 
Oryx and sabertooth tigers were native to the UK as well, how many other lost species do we have to worry about? What about some dinosaurs?
 
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Steep said:
Oryx and sabertooth tigers were native to the UK as well, how many other lost species do we have to worry about? What about some dinosaurs?
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Sabertooth tigers would definately enjoy the leafy climbs of Surrey and the Southampshire downs. They should get them if we get stuck with bears and wolves...LOL

Dinorsaurs need more humidity, the cornish riveria for them...I'm sure they'd help solve the St Ives Seagull problem...
 
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Technically speaking, not much was actually native to the UK, due to the ice age we were just a stepping stone used by migrating animals, the UK lacked the forna that was required by most animals at that time.
 
Flightphoto said:
Technically speaking, not much was actually native to the UK, due to the ice age we were just a stepping stone used by migrating animals, the UK lacked the forna that was required by most animals at that time.
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That makes it indigenous, that was its natural range.
 
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Anyway, I wish there was a way to re-engineer dinosaurs but it's just not possible as we don't hold any DNA due to the way it breaks down over time. There is that chap in America though who is breeding VRaptor features back through chickens, I remember reading last that he's managed to bring back the long tail and the shape of the wings but no canine & incisors just yet!

On other news, did anyone read about the Titanosaurus? Wow, a potential 77 tonne Herbivore would be something I would give my life to see in its natural habitat.
 
The plan for wolves at Alladale (which has been rumbling on for years) actually has the wolves enclosed. That said it's 50,000 acres lol

The problem is that being 'enclosed' means that there is zoo legislation to get around as having predator and prey in the same enclosure raises animal welfare issues.
 
HuntingMartians said:
I will never understand people who say they love the countryside but don't like to see native wild animals in it.
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They're not native, to all intensive purposes they are extinct. I like the mountains, trees and rivers, the animals IMHO are the not the attraction, the view and clean air is. A snorting bear most certain isn't. For me that is.

Flightphoto said:
Anyway, I wish there was a way to re-engineer dinosaurs but it's just not possible as we don't hold any DNA due to the way it breaks down over time. There is that chap in America though who is breeding VRaptor features back through chickens, I remember reading last that he's managed to bring back the long tail and the shape of the wings but no canine & incisors just yet!

On other news, did anyone read about the Titanosaurus? Wow, a potential 77 tonne Herbivore would be something I would give my life to see in its natural habitat.
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Oh crumbs, part of me disagrees but there is a fascinating science behind it.

My ultimate thought, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
 
dinners said:
The plan for wolves at Alladale (which has been rumbling on for years) actually has the wolves enclosed. That said it's 50,000 acres lol

The problem is that being 'enclosed' means that there is zoo legislation to get around as having predator and prey in the same enclosure raises animal welfare issues.
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Enclosed is cool and they can't get out, I'll know not to go.
 
Bring them on

Just get yourself a big dog Steve:p:D
 
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Flightphoto said:
Anyway, I wish there was a way to re-engineer dinosaurs but it's just not possible as we don't hold any DNA due to the way it breaks down over time. There is that chap in America though who is breeding VRaptor features back through chickens, I remember reading last that he's managed to bring back the long tail and the shape of the wings but no canine & incisors just yet!

On other news, did anyone read about the Titanosaurus? Wow, a potential 77 tonne Herbivore would be something I would give my life to see in its natural habitat.
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Are you trying to tell me Jurassic Park is a lie??

Titanosaurus yes, that was one flippin big eating machine.
 
A friend of mine breeds Irish Wolfhounds

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Well I think it would be a great idea as already stated wolves in the wild avoid people not go after them
Don't think that it will happen tho the farming lobby is too powerful
In England and Wales farmers are trying to get badgers culled I don't think wolves will ever introduced
 
ST4 said:
We're top of the food chain, we decide what lives and what doesn't with us. Why put ourselves in danger?
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Loving the thread due to some of the nonsense posted, but this tops it all. We have no right to decide what lives and dies.

Bring wolves back I say and yes I would have them near me and my young family! I'd be more sacred of a giraffe or camel than a wolf!!!

We had no right too wipe them out in the first place.
 
dinners said:
Slightly off topic but we've already over 100 beaver here on the Tay.

Their impact is still under study.
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Very true but these were not all planned reintroductions but we will have to see the point term impacts. Although I believe if we just leave it it will all find a natural balance.
 
Uneducated_Rick said:
Snow leopards aren't a native animal to Britain.

Wolves, bears and beavers (amongst others) are and should be reintroduced.

Thousands of years of evolution to fill niches in an eco system and we decide some should be removed - unbalances the entire system
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Yes absolutely
As I said earlier in the original link the OP posted it stated they wolves pose little danger you're more likely to be attacked by a domestic dog
 
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