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I'm off to speak to my boss's boss tomorrow to ask for a pay rise (a big one).

I am a Quality Engineer with expertise in Business Processes and my boss is off long term sick. 3 weeks ago I was asked by my boss's boss (on the recomendation on my boss's boss's boss) to step up to the plate and take some of her responsibilities, specifically I was tasked to get a plan together to ensure that by the end of March our quality management system meets the requirements of ISO9001.

I did this and now there is a role for me to be a Manager responsible for a team of 2-3 people and be the main face in the company for the ISO accrediation. I will therefore have to liase with senior management to ensure that the documentation within their departments meet the ISO standard but at the same time is also efficient. I will also be responsible for smoozing the external auditors when they come to audit us.

I have done my research and I am about to ask for a salary that is the market rate for the position. Unfortunately the company HR department will claim is a 45% pay rise but I see as a 15% pay rise due to the fact that I currently get overtime and in my new role I won't (and I do alot of overtime).

When I'm successful (note the optimism) I will get my first f2.8 pro lens so wish me luck guys and girls :D
 
Good luck Simon, let us know how you get on!
 
:thumbs: Good Luck! take a big breath and be brave :)
 
Good luck :)

My experience of quality systems is that you can get the product disastrously wrong and completely useless but as long as you recorded everything properly you have an approved quality system!
 
Thanks to all

Robert P - unfortuantely your view of approved quality management systems can be correct if management aren't behind the intention behind quailty and it is one of the downsides of ISO9001. However I believe that quality = customer satisafaction so I would expect that in the company I work for your impression would be wrong (that is if I do my job right!!). Fortunately the modern ISO9001 is all about continuou improvement regarding customer satisfaction so eventually things will change regardless of top management's purposes for ISO accreditation
 
Best of luck, fingers crossed for you :)
 
Here's a poem to bear in mind.

Walk tall walk straight,
Look the boss right in the eye,
That's what the foreman told me,
When I went for a rise,
Look son put your foot down,
and say,
just what you like!
and if you don't get one......
then we'll all go out on strike!!!

Good luck!
 
... so what happened?
 
Not that lucky :lol:

I spoke to my boss's boss and he listened to what I said and he didn't say no, but at the same time he didn't say yes, yet. Apparently as my boss is due back in the new year he can't (won't for political reason) do anything right now but he did make it clear that he wanted me to continue in the position after she returns but it is ultimately her decision.

I said that I understood and that given that we might not be able to get things properly sorted until April (pay review time) and asked whether we would be able to get whatever is agreed then backdated to January (big April pay packet :D). He said that based on past experience such agreement is possible but he would need to speak to HR and would do so. He asked me about my experience and asked me to send him a copy of my CV and that will arrive in his inbox tomorrow morning, along with another request to get HR and him to confirm that whatever is agreed in April backdated to January.

So nothing concrete yet, but the topic has been raised and there is good omens for a positive outcome. In the mean time I'm in yet another hotel and will be working my behind off away from home until Thursday as the rest of the company winds down for Christmas.

Thanks all for your support - I may need it again in the new year if the boss doesn't come back when she's expected.
 
We went through all this ISO hassle a few years ago - right pain the derrier it was, getting all departments up to speed with it all. Altohugh the place I work for didn't give any more money to the staff, they just took a few to one side and said that as from now they were internal auditors and it was their job to make sure everything went smooth, and that there would be hell on if anything failed....They were also the ones who liaised with the official auditors come audit time.
 
Good luck Simon!!

As for the 45% rise you are quite correct, although overtime is not complusary (at my place) and you are never guaranteed of getting any, I've always put around 5-10K on my basic each year with OT for the past 10 years, so you are more than correct by asking for that level of salary cover.
 
Good Luck m8.

Ah! all that xtra dough U can spend on new camera gear:naughty::nuts:
 
chouglez said:
Ah! all that xtra dough U can spend on new camera gear:naughty::nuts:
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That's the plan - just don't tell the Bank Manager :D I really fancy the new Nikon 24-70mm a snip at £1200.

However, I was was sensible I would clear my CCs off first though.
 
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