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Hi my router is in my study. but the wifi signal does not really extend to the lounge. (I have tried wifi boosters - but they are not really working either)

We have run an Ethernet cable from the router in the study to the lounge to plug into tv/xbox/sky box.

Is there something I can buy that I can plug the Ethernet cable into that will then create wifi in that area of the house? so we can use laptop/phones etc wirelessly?

Thank

Matt
 
Thanks - But doesn't this take the internet connection from the main electrical wires that runs through the house?

Would it not be quicker and more reliable to use the Ethernet cable (Cat6) that I have run - and just plug the cable I have run to the lounge into something to create wifi?
 
If you've got Ethernet run in then you just need an access point, power line will be slower than Ethernet.

I can recommend tp link kit.

Call the wireless network the same name and password and off you go.
 
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matt_wright said:
Thanks - But doesn't this take the internet connection from the main electrical wires that runs through the house?

Would it not be quicker and more reliable to use the Ethernet cable (Cat6) that I have run - and just plug the cable I have run to the lounge into something to create wifi?
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If you want to have cables running through the house etc then yes I believe you could use another Router at the end of the Ethernet or as Neil_g has said an access point.

The power lines are just as quick as an Ethernet cable imo that's what I have found from using them in my parents house anyway.
 
Easiest way is to get an old wireless router. You may already have one lying around. Turn off dhcp on it and plug the Ethernet internet feed into one of the lan ports on the second router. It'll act as a wireless access point
 
If you just want a very tidy job these little TP Link nano routers are tiny (about 2 inches square) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006PYGWG6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you want to connect wired devices the Edimax version has a 4 port wired hub built in, http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ADHLDPQ/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have both, I use the TP Link for event photography with eyefi cards, and also for my TV / Youview / Blueray. I also carry one in my travel kit for hotels with wired only internet service, pop one on and create your own wifi network.

The Edimax I have connected to my main editing computer through a gigabit switch to make my NAS available on the network without needing a host computer.

Both work very well, 2 minute set up jobs.
 
landwomble said:
Easiest way is to get an old wireless router. You may already have one lying around. Turn off dhcp on it and plug the Ethernet internet feed into one of the lan ports on the second router. It'll act as a wireless access point
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I do have two 'old' (not actually that old - less than 18 months and never ben used - the are from sky) routers lying around - is the dhcp a button (I don't recall seeing one before)? if not how would I go about turning it off? - thanks
 
matt_wright said:
I do have two 'old' (not actually that old - less than 18 months and never ben used - the are from sky) routers lying around - is the dhcp a button (I don't recall seeing one before)? if not how would I go about turning it off? - thanks
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Sky routers don't do dhcp pass through, I tried that recently and it would not pass dhcp requests from wireless to LAN where my dhcp server was.
 
Yeah they will. They'll act as dumb wireless hubs I.e. wireless access points. I have done this several times with sky routers. Turn off dhcp nesky router, make sure its in the same IP range (i.e. 192.168.x.y) as your main router and you're good to go. I'm not sure what you mean by dhcp pass through - as they're all on the same subnet there's no problem. They'll just use your main router for dhcp. For extra bonus points put both routers on the same wireless channel and set the wireless network name and password to be the same as your main router and devices will roam seamlessly between the two networks
 
Oh and setting the dhcp etc on the sky box is by a web browser. Turn it on, connect wirelessly to it and open the config page which is usually http://192.168.0.1
 
landwomble said:
Yeah they will. They'll act as dumb wireless hubs I.e. wireless access points. I have done this several times with sky routers. Turn off dhcp nesky router, make sure its in the same IP range (i.e. 192.168.x.y) as your main router and you're good to go. I'm not sure what you mean by dhcp pass through - as they're all on the same subnet there's no problem. They'll just use your main router for dhcp. For extra bonus points put both routers on the same wireless channel and set the wireless network name and password to be the same as your main router and devices will roam seamlessly between the two networks
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Nope did not let any wifi device get a dhcp lease from my 2008 server.

Some routers just don't pass though the requests. (Some routers have a specific dhcp on/off/pass through toggle).

If it makes a difference it's a d-link sky router. Was on latest firmware at the time.
 
Ah. I've done it on countless dg834 netgear sky routers. You were plugging in the lan, not the wan side? Maybe sky do something stupid with the firmware. Night be worth seeing if can flash with standard dlink firmware. Or to the OP, just get an old wireless router that isn't a sky dlink one...
 
..as it's not being a router in this confog, just a wireless hub (aka access point) so should work...!
 
Definitely LAN ;)

A home router is always going to be limited on functionality. I only really tried it as the linksys router I was using as an AP (had a specific dhcp pass mode like I mention) died in a power cut.

Not an issue now, got a nice N tp-link AP :)
 
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Just tried the old sky router - wasn't having much luck...... you guys now much more than me.... all the talk above has confused me o_O...
think I will probably order the AP that I linked to earlier.
Do you guys know if I will be able to use that and not have change networks / enter passwords when I walk around the house etc? (hope that makes sense?)
 
Thanks for your help guys I really appreciate it.
I may he to bug you again in a few days once it arrives :)

thanks

Matt
 
landwomble said:
For extra bonus points put both routers on the same wireless channel and set the wireless network name and password to be the same as your main router and devices will roam seamlessly between the two networks
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Bzzt.. Nope. Put them on different wireless channels, but with the same credentials (network name & password). The device will roam properly that way. If you put them on the same channel, you will get interference....
 
This isn't correct. Sorry.
Ultimately client handover behavior is decided by the network stack on client device. However for noon enterprise set up I've had good success using same channel to do seamless handover - e.g. home setups. This is because to simpler hardware it really does just look like one big network. A client can readily handle multiple networks in same channel without interference to a degree - obviously if you have loads of neighbors you want to pick a neutral channel though.

Ultimately there are many factors here including brand of router so it's worth experimenting but my original advice still stands. It takes 30 seconds to try, anyway.
 
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landwomble said:
This isn't correct. Sorry.
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Not sure if you're saying sorry that you got it wrong, or just being nice telling me I'm wrong... ;) Anyway.... if you have them on the same channel, there will be areas of the house where you get conflicting signal resulting in lower speeds. It will work, it just won't be optimal. As to network stacks - I can't remember the last piece of equipment I had in my hands that required the network to be on the same channel before it would hop - in fact, I don't think I've had any that require this. YMMV of course.
 
i dont think either is "wrong" per say.

our previous APs at work were all on different channels and worked well. we've just switched to a managed UTM solution with built in wireless management (which monitors interference from outside APs and its own APs and switches channels accordingly) and it likes to keep the channels mostly the same (other than the 5Ghz which is different) and all works well there too. And that has been completely over engineered, I think we cover half the town with our signal :D
 
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