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Hey guys & girls.

I'm after recommendations for remote shutter releases to work with the Canon 450D.

Must be wireless, must be radio and the range must be pretty good!

They'll be used with my camera mounted on the inside/outside of race cars as they navigate a short course so infrared is no good and range of up to 100m may be needed, although most likely it'll be a lot less than this as I can be choice about when I trigger the shutter.

My budget isn't huge and I've seen the Ebay affairs offering up to 100m, but do they really deliver?
 
Realistically I am afraid that most of the eBay offerings will not give you the performance you need! The only way to really guarantee results is the rather expensive pocket wizards. Not that I am saying there is anything wrong with the cheap eBay ones in ally of situations by the way! :-)
 
RF602's
 
Jord said:
My budget isn't huge and I've seen the Ebay affairs offering up to 100m, but do they really deliver?
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Rmacleod90 said:
Realistically I am afraid that most of the eBay offerings will not give you the performance you need! The only way to really guarantee results is the rather expensive pocket wizards. Not that I am saying there is anything wrong with the cheap eBay ones in ally of situations by the way! :-)
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I got a Yongnuo YN-126 wireless remote which has the 100m+ range.... works perfectly with my D700 & no complaints.... Dont think that you can get them now thou - think that I got that off the bay...

These have some wireless remotes - http://www.ukhighland.com/home used them before in the past with no hassle's what so ever..
 
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RF603C might be a better choice. RF603 have a special channel for wireless triggering thats not in the RF602, plus use AA batteries. Got a pair but never used them 100m away from camera.
 
Rod.F said:
RF603C might be a better choice. RF603 have a special channel for wireless triggering thats not in the RF602, plus use AA batteries. Got a pair but never used them 100m away from camera.
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Do you know if the 603 is compatible with the 602?
 
I can't find any RF603C, only RF603, is it the same?

Also I thought they were flash triggers, I am after a remote shutter, or can they be used for that also (if so that is ideal as I need some new flash triggers soon anyway).
 
602's will do what you need, they are flash triggers (no ettl) and remote camera triggers.

603's will do what you need, they are flash triggers (with ttl support) and remote camera triggers but are obviously more expensive.

Both are manufacturer/model specific so make sure you buy the Canon version to suit your 450D
 
Aah, that helps then as I will be using them as flash triggers on my 5DMKII (which I'm not prepared to hang off the side of a car :D) but I have only one flash with TTL so I'm not fussed about TTL.

602s it is.

The only other idea I had was that if it was possible to somehow set it so the camera fires every say, 3 seconds after I give it the go ahead, then I pick the shots I want. Seeing as I'll need to set the camera in the car at the start line anyway that would possibly work better. Is there any way to do this without hooking up to a laptop, some kind of timed shutter release that fires every few seconds?
 
First of all, the 602 comes with two connecting wires from the receiver to the camera body, one for remote shoot and one for studio flash.

The kit for the 450D is different from the kit for the 5D, the plug on the end of the remote shoot wire is different.

On the car shooting, the receiver will fire every time you press the transmitter but it does not have the ability to self time. You could set the shutter time on the camera to repeat fire every second but you would need to keep your finger on the transmitter to activate it.

You can buy remote cable triggers that have a timer built in which may suit your needs better.
 
When using with studio flash does the 602 not fire off the hotshoe so no need for a cable when being used on the 5D?
 
The cable goes from the receiver to the studio flash, the transmitter fits on the hotshoe.
 
admirable said:
602's will do what you need, they are flash triggers (no ettl) and remote camera triggers.

603's will do what you need, they are flash triggers (with ttl support) and remote camera triggers but are obviously more expensive.

Both are manufacturer/model specific so make sure you buy the Canon version to suit your 450D
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The 603s have hotshoe pass through, very different from TTL support. Just means you can fit a flash on top of the 603 on camera and have it fire. The lack of a CR2 battery in the 603s make it the obvious choice for me, and they are more or less the same money as the 602 from what I have seen.
 
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Jord said:
Aah, that helps then as I will be using them as flash triggers on my 5DMKII (which I'm not prepared to hang off the side of a car :D) but I have only one flash with TTL so I'm not fussed about TTL.

602s it is.
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Sorry but that that information wasn't accurate. RF602 is the old model, RF603 is the new model. Neither do TTL. The RF603 is an upgrade in that it doesn't look as ugly, uses AAA batteries (not CR2), both of the RF603 units can act as either transmitter or receiver and there is a special channel for camera triggering. It's 3 or 4 quid more but you'll probably save that on batteries. More here

There are only two models: RF603C and RF603N. One for Canon (regardless of model number) and one for Nikon. EDIT: Different wires are needed though, depending on camera model.

Hope that helps.
 
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Ah, so the 603's do not have ttl, I misunderstood the write up...sorry.

So if you buy the 603C how does it trigger the 2nd camera if there is only one kit, do you receive two cables?
 
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So if you buy the 603C how does it trigger the 2nd camera if there is only one kit, do you receive two cables?
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Sorry bit confused by your question, it you want it set up like I think the OP is asking then it should look like this. You hold one unit in your hand and the second is mounted on the hotshoe, with a wire connecting it to the shutter cable input thingy. The wire is included but need to get the right one for your camera. The 450D wire is the same as mine, LS-2.5/C1.

I think they do their best to make it confusing :lol:
 
Yeah this has gone off track and got confusing its partly my fault :D

Priority is to be able to fire the 450D shutter remotely.

Secondary is if the same triggers will mount onto my 5D and fire my speedlites remotely.

From what I can see as long as I order the right model for the 450D it will fulfill both the above with no need for extra cables. Correct?

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You could set the shutter time on the camera to repeat fire every second but you would need to keep your finger on the transmitter to activate it.
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Is this right? Where in the settings can I set this up? If this is true I can just connect my wired shutter release up (which has a hold clip to hold the button down) and set the camera to fire every X seconds.
 
Rod.F said:
Sorry bit confused by your question, it you want it set up like I think the OP is asking then it should look like this. You hold one unit in your hand and the second is mounted on the hotshoe, with a wire connecting it to the shutter cable input thingy. The wire is included but need to get the right one for your camera. The 450D wire is the same as mine, LS-2.5/C1.

I think they do their best to make it confusing :lol:
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The cable for the 450D is different from the 5D so when ordering you need to state what one you require.

On the 602's there were 2 different kits but perhaps on the 603's you receive both cables? Can someone confirm?
 
Jord said:
From what I can see as long as I order the right model for the 450D it will fulfill both the above with no need for extra cables. Correct?
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Yes that is correct.

Jord said:
Is this right? Where in the settings can I set this up? If this is true I can just connect my wired shutter release up (which has a hold clip to hold the button down) and set the camera to fire every X seconds.
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I don't have a 450D or a 5D but there is a setting on the high end Canon cameras that lets you decide how many frames per sec you prefer in 'machine gun mode'. If you intend using the 450D I doubt if that option will be available.
 
Thanks Admirable, I'll have a check on the camera tonight.

Photon, that is ideal thanks! The cost is similar to the wireless shutter so I'll have to ponder the best way to do this!
 
admirable said:
On the 602's there were 2 different kits but perhaps on the 603's you receive both cables? Can someone confirm?
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You don't. For lower end cameras (like the OP's 450D) you need the wire called C1 and for higher (like the 5D) you'd need the C3. Only one is included.

Jord said:
Priority is to be able to fire the 450D shutter remotely.
Secondary is if the same triggers will mount onto my 5D and fire my speedlites remotely.
From what I can see as long as I order the right model for the 450D it will fulfill both the above with no need for extra cables. Correct?
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Correct, if you want to do this then it is the RF603c with C1 cable. However you won't be able to fire the 5D remotely with that cable.
 
Hi All, just did a search for the same item as the OP question - so thanks for all the info, I do have an extra question tho' if I may.

As the sensor is on the front of the camera 450D and I want to use mine for wildlife will it pick up the signals when operated from behind? Or would I be better going for a wired release?
 
Mayfly said:
Hi All, just did a search for the same item as the OP question - so thanks for all the info, I do have an extra question tho' if I may.

As the sensor is on the front of the camera 450D and I want to use mine for wildlife will it pick up the signals when operated from behind? Or would I be better going for a wired release?
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The thread's been talking about radio triggers so there's no line-of-sight problems.
 
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