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I've been trying out Windows 11 installed in VirtualBox and it works perfectly.
And I must say that so far I'm quite impressed with Windows 11
I don't know if Microsoft will relax it's requirements which ATM essentially means you will probably have to buy a new computer to actually use it on a real metal machine which seems incredibly short sighted..
Using it in VirtualBox even older programs work perfectly.
 
i have had a look at it as well and it does look very good.
is suspect from a hardware point of view it will be very lightweight, seems like W10 is the best yet for taxing kit.

google seems to say it will be a free upgrade as well coming soon
 
petersmart said:
I don't know if Microsoft will relax it's requirements which ATM essentially means you will probably have to buy a new computer to actually use it on a real metal machine which seems incredibly short
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My 9th gen i7 in this laptop is compatible with Win 11.
I'm not sure how far back it will go Intel CPU wise but I doubt the 5th gen in my desktop will be compatible but I'm not bothered with that as I plan on building a new one.
 
I just checked my pc, and all I need is to enable AMD`s PSP :)
 
petersmart said:
I've been trying out Windows 11 installed in VirtualBox and it works perfectly.
And I must say that so far I'm quite impressed with Windows 11
I don't know if Microsoft will relax it's requirements which ATM essentially means you will probably have to buy a new computer to actually use it on a real metal machine which seems incredibly short sighted..
Using it in VirtualBox even older programs work perfectly.
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I used to use the time limited VMs that Microsoft supplies when I needed to run an occasional app in Windows. It didn’t take much time to do and worked well on Macs.
 
petersmart said:
I've been trying out Windows 11 installed in VirtualBox and it works perfectly.
And I must say that so far I'm quite impressed with Windows 11
I don't know if Microsoft will relax it's requirements which ATM essentially means you will probably have to buy a new computer to actually use it on a real metal machine which seems incredibly short sighted..
Using it in VirtualBox even older programs work perfectly.
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What did you need to do to bypass TPM and secure boot?
I've read the hack removing one of the DLLs from the install images to bypass the checks, but not sure I want to play that game.
 
LC2 said:
What did you need to do to bypass TPM and secure boot?
I've read the hack removing one of the DLLs from the install images to bypass the checks, but not sure I want to play that game.
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I din't try to bypass TPM or Secure Boot I found it just worked!
Here are the 3 steps I took:

https://biSPAM/2WOPqTL

https://biSPAM/3jIFYtY

https://biSPAM/3yNUK6Q


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That's very interesting, so the insider preview doesn't enforce tpm or secureboot.
I bet it will once it goes beyond preview into gold.
Also interesting to see that he chose pro (and disabled the network) to avoid any hassle with 11 insisting on a microsoft account rather than a local one.
Cheers, I think I'll give that a go. Gotta be nicer than running server 2019 for most of my virtual boxes.
 
My Asus Z170 Pro board doesn't cut it and neither does the 6600K chip. My whole system is aged though I do have 32GB of DDR2300 RAM which might still perform. I would like to change out my GPU (Sapphire RX580) but the prices are nuts.

I used to do a lot of the early testing stuff but lost interest and sold off my dedicated computer. I'll maybe have a look at Window 11 through the virtualbox just to see what it looks like.
 
LC2 said:
That's very interesting, so the insider preview doesn't enforce tpm or secureboot.
I bet it will once it goes beyond preview into gold.
Also interesting to see that he chose pro (and disabled the network) to avoid any hassle with 11 insisting on a microsoft account rather than a local one.
Cheers, I think I'll give that a go. Gotta be nicer than running server 2019 for most of my virtual boxes.
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No, it does enforce both TPM and SecureBoot - I know this because I tried to install the ISO image I downloaded onto a couple of my REAL Z800s and my Z840 and it failed on all with the warning that the machines had neither TPM or SecureBoot - apparently you would also need at least 2 cores and UEFI.
By extension this also means that the OS must be installed on a GPT disc and NOT MBR.
However none of these rules apply when installed into a Virtual Machine.
TBH I don't know why because the VM still uses the Host machine for it's functions and therefore if it doesn't have the functions in theory Window 11 should fail.
Except it doesn't
When I tested this concept further I found I could actually update a VM running Windows 7 as a Legacy machine, without invoking the UEFI interface as I did in the videos.
And I could also upgrade a Windows 10 activated VM to Windows 11 and Microsoft then downloaded further updates.
But I must say that so far I really am impressed by it because it ran all my usual programs without any problems at all - even my really old photo editor Serif PhotoPlus X2.
And some other Video editors also ran which had given up in a Windows 7 environment.
So I'm going to go on loading all the updates and see how it goes.
 
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I decided to try home rather than pro.
No network = fail half way through the configuration (just before the user setup - but I think it was the updates bit)
Network on and it works, but no option to avoid using a microsoft account to log in. You can add a local account later. Using "control userpasswords2" from the cmdline seems the easiest.

Un-activated, you are restricted in the configurations you can make. I don't have any spare 7/8/10 keys so will live with unactivated for now.
I really don't like the new right click menu. It adds a further click to access options that were there previously (I found an article where MS said it was an improvement !)
Actually, the changes to the menus overall feel like fiddling for the sake of it, rather than improvements. I guess it's there to streamline for the n00b user, but it does take away options that experienced users use.

It was interesting to find PSExpress as an installer from the tiles (?) menu. To be fair it worked fine.

I don't hate it, but conversely nothing makes me want to update to it either - There is no 'killer upgrade' in there.
 
I've now installed Windows 11 on REAL computers (6 so far) with absolutely no problems.

And all updates have downloaded, again without problems.

And, because Windows 10 was already activated on these machines Windows 11 is also activated.

Of course you must remember this is not actually a NEW operating system,, it's a re-skinned version of Win 10.

In fact there has been no new OS since XP, just a series of onion like skins, all introducing new problems.

Win 11, like all the others before it, still uses the XP kernel, which is why, if you drill down, you will still find the old system dialogue boxes etc.
 
And of course, XP was Windows 2000 tarted up, which was NT4 etc. (which was written my the team who wrote VMS (hence the urban myth that WNT was VMS+1 ;) )
To be fair to to Windows 11 it is 64bit only, whereas Windows 10 supported 32bit architecture, so it really isn't XP, although there will undoubtedly be a lot of shared codebase.
 
The Register are reporting that MS are implementing the hardware checks on VMs, thus b0rking Virtual Box
www.theregister.com

Microsoft does and doesn't require VMs to meet hardware requirements for Windows 11

Either way, it's bad news for VirtualBox – it's stopped working
www.theregister.com www.theregister.com
Currently only in the Dev Channel (my VM is from the Stable channel).
But I suspect that it will be coming to stable at some point.

I've set the network to metered ;) and cloned my install so I can test the updates before applying them.
 
Well I have Win 11 build 22000.194 running perfectly well on several machines including this one - HP Z800 - with no problems at all - and also in VMs as well - again with no problems..
They are all activated and receiving updates so far.
My latest video on my YouTube channel shows how I installed Win 11 on the Z800.
 
petersmart said:
I've now installed Windows 11 on REAL computers (6 so far) with absolutely no problems.

And all updates have downloaded, again without problems.

And, because Windows 10 was already activated on these machines Windows 11 is also activated.

Of course you must remember this is not actually a NEW operating system,, it's a re-skinned version of Win 10.

In fact there has been no new OS since XP, just a series of onion like skins, all introducing new problems.

Win 11, like all the others before it, still uses the XP kernel, which is why, if you drill down, you will still find the old system dialogue boxes etc.
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XP is based on the NT kernel (and reported as version 5.1, where its predecessor Windows 2000 reported as version 5.0), so Windows 11 traces its ancestry back to NT 3.1, which the first release using the new kernel rather than DOS kernel based versions of Windows, despite the weird version number.
 
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