Windows 11, 11s and updating to11

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Question 1
Got myself a bit confused over selecting a new laptop. I thought I'd narrowed the choice down then noticed that a lot of laptops come with Windows 11s, which as I understand it stands for Windows 11 Screwed Down and is designed for people who need saving from themselves :LOL:. It seems fairly simple to change from 11s to 11 (not the other way but why would anyone want to?) if you need to actually do anything useful, like use stuff that isn't on the MS Store, as I do. Then I found someone saying that if you do it it'll slow the machine down. Anyone know if this is true or is this person a Microsoft deterrent-bot? Laptop will be (probably) HP Intel processor i3 or 15, 8G RAM, 256G SSD. Software will be MS Office, Canon DPP and a few other bits and pieces. It's mainly for the bare basics when I'm away from home. I use a desktop for real work
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Question 2
The desktop is Windows 10, again Intel processor. When Windows 11 first came out I checked and my specific processor was not on the W11 supported list. Now it is. How easy/reliable is the upgrade? Presumably I then have to reload everything? It always seems to take days of pain and tearing my hair out, and there's at least one app I'm going to lose as it's not supported so can't be registered. The machine is about 4 years old but a bit overkill for my needs (deliberately) and as slick as the day it came out of the box
 
For your desktop, unless you have a critical reason for up(down)grading to 11, then do not bother, as long as you have a decent 3rd party antivirus/malware suite you don't really have to worry about the loss of microsoft support.
For the laptop, there's no reason it will run slower with a full fat 11 than the skimmed milk version, I would check if the ram is upgradable to 16gb though, as that will give you a lot more head room for future stuffs and go for the i5 for added longevity as I presume you expect to keep it until it dies and not upgrade it in a couple of years.
 
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For your desktop, unless you have a critical reason for up(down)grading to 11, then do not bother, as long as you have a decent 3rd party antivirus/malware suite you don't really have to worry about the loss of microsoft support.
For the laptop, there's no reason it will run slower with a full fat 11 than the skimmed milk version, I would check if the ram is upgradable to 16gb though, as that will give you a lot more head room for future stuffs and go for the i5 for added longevity as I presume you expect to keep it until it dies and not upgrade it in a couple of years.
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That was my other option for the desktop. I do have good AV - it's something I don't skimp on. It was just something I wanted to ask opinions on since MS have brought my processor into compatibility and I keep getting the nag screen
As for the laptop - if I could afford to spend upwards of £700 on something I use very little most of the year apart from video calling...... And needing the smallest possible size but an IPS or SVA screen limits the choice. The one I have is 10 years old but is now running at 100% of everything and still can't cope. I don't even do any image processing or other resource hungry stuff on it. I do all that at home
 
11S Vs 11 slowness - standard FUD practice to attempt to save those that can be led to information but not made to think from themselves.
 
The 11 upgrade has always been reliable in my limited experience (done 5 or 6 upgrades). On the whole W11 seemed slightly more responsive than W10, but it needs a lot of tidying up to make it user-friendly: stugg like moving the start menu to the left of the task bar, deleting games and removing stupid stuff. It's typical of microsoft OSs of the last few years. If you don't have a M$ account it can be a hassle to get round on first boot, although I seemed to have managed it OK.
 
I'm running Windows 11 on an old machine (wasn't compatible but you can get around that). It is much quicker than Windows 10 with things like File Explorer for example.

Really happy with the upgrade.
 
Every new computer, every new OS, I seem to spend a week getting it sort of how I want it and several more weeks fine tuning. I have an MS account, the machine's compatible but there's nothing in the setup I have that makes me desperate to change anything. I think it's going to get shelved till something's sorted with the laptop as I can't be without a computer
 
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