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Great stuff, don`t normally watch tennis, but pleased for Murray, the hard work has paid off.

Now for people to put one silly comment behind them and get behind an excellent British sportsman.
 
fracster said:
Great stuff, don`t normally watch tennis, but pleased for Murray, the hard work has paid off.

Now for people to put one silly comment behind them and get behind an excellent Scottish sportsman.
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edited that for you :p :lol:
 
There we go :(

What a pity he couldn't give respect to the Duke of Kent during the presentation. Even Mohamed Lahyan the umpire gave respect when presented to the Duke. So, no, my opinion of him as a man has only been reinforced.

In the meantime, I'm enjoying watching Kristina Mladenovic on centre court :)
 
He did brilliantly. Regardless of anyone's opinion of the man (the man they don't know, incidentally) you cannot take the victory away from him. He WON that match hands down.
 
2blue4u said:
There we go :(

What a pity he couldn't give respect to the Duke of Kent during the presentation.
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Respect is something that is earned, not expected.

I don`t know the Duke of Kent, as such I have no respect for him. Maybe Mr Murray feels the same way.

Anyway,without derailing the thread ,Murray played exceptionally well in beating the worlds number one in straight sets.
 
hmm, so he remains British.. until the next time..
 
I saw nothing disrespectful toward the duke:shrug: Murray will always divide opinion, one because he's Scottish and 2 because he's seen as a bit dour. No bloody wonder considering what he experienced as a kid.

Total respect to the guy he did our nation (Scotland, Britain, UK) proud. Sod the small minded pettiness (and I don't particularly mean you 2blue) just some of the general anti Murray (see what I did there:D) feelings that still linger.
 
I see the two crash test dummies have joined forces, what a frightening prospect.............:D
 
fracster said:
I see the two crash test dummies have joined forces, what a frightening prospect.............:D
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Hah, that's rich coming fae you who canna' tell the difference between a bloody Buzzard and a Harrier.

I rest my case m'lud:p
 
Lynton said:
hmm, so he remains British.. until the next time..
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No, he stays Scottish and no less so for your comments earlier about folk being injured!
 
fracster said:
Respect is something that is earned, not expected.

I don`t know the Duke of Kent, as such I have no respect for him. Maybe Mr Murray feels the same way.

Anyway,without derailing the thread ,Murray played exceptionally well in beating the worlds number one in straight sets.
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Totally agree :-)
 
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This argument is silly.

Andy Murray is British by virtue of being British. Being born in Britain and all.

He played bloody excellently today and I am very pleased for him.
 
norters said:
This argument is silly.

Andy Murray is British by virtue of being British. Being born in Britain and all.

He played bloody excellently today and I am very pleased for him.
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^^^
This

This thread is supposed to be about Wimbledon and the celebration a historic sporting achievement by a British tennis player, not an argument about whether he is British or Scottish.

If you want to have that argument, try another forum!
 
fracster said:
Respect is something that is earned, not expected.

I don`t know the Duke of Kent, as such I have no respect for him.
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You totally misunderstand what is meant by such a show of respect. In a similar way to members of the armed forces saluting officers, it is most definately not the individual being acknowledged but rather respect is being shown towards the head of state?



norters said:
This argument is silly.

Andy Murray is British by virtue of being British. Being born in Britain and all.

He played bloody excellently today and I am very pleased for him.
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Totally agree. At least, until independance. ;)
 
Declaration of interest: I'm Scottish by birthplace and parentage.

Murray's victory today is precisely NOTHING to do with politics, the independence referendum, Scottish or British nationalism, unionism, Irn Bru, devolution, the West Lothian question, sovereignty, et al.

It was a tennis tournament. Nothing more. Nothing less. All attempts, from whatever side, to inject politics into this remarkable and enjoyable feat of sportsmanship are completely pathetic.
 
ghoti said:
Declaration of interest: I'm Scottish by birthplace and parentage.

Murray's victory today is precisely NOTHING to do with politics, the independence referendum, Scottish or British nationalism, unionism, Irn Bru, devolution, the West Lothian question, sovereignty, et al.

It was a tennis tournament. Nothing more. Nothing less. All attempts, from whatever side, to inject politics into this remarkable and enjoyable feat of sportsmanship are completely pathetic.
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Well said sir!
 
norters said:
This argument is silly.

Andy Murray is British by virtue of being British. Being born in Britain and all.

He played bloody excellently today and I am very pleased for him.
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Your correct your argument is silly... Of course he's Scottish, I was was born in Scotland and and I'm Scottish not British . And I'm dam sure if he lost he would be Scottish not a British... ;-)

But most importantly... He's a fantastic athlete to achieve what he has done ;-)
 
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F R E E E E E E E E E E E D O M ! ! ! !! :D:D
 
mxfun said:
Your correct your argument is silly... Of course he's Scottish, I was was born in Scotland and and I'm Scottish not British . And I'm dam sure if he lost he would be Scottish not a British... ;-)

But most importantly... He's a fantastic athlete to achieve what he has done ;-)
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If you're Scottish then you're British by definition, as Scotland is part of the British Isles - which is a geographical, not a political, entity.
You might identify as Scottish more than you identify as British, which is completely fair. But saying you're "not British" is silly.
 
Fantastic achievement for a British/Scottish/Ginger/1.90 m tall/26 year old tennis player.

Seriously, there are some arid people on here, can't we just celebrate the amazing feat he's just realised?

Also, what did he do that was disrespectful to the Duke? Must have missed that.
 
:shrug: It was a game of tennis or "ping pong on grass" as i like to call it :D
The BRITISH LIONS sticking it up the Aussies was far more entertaining.
 
Why, have you become a MOD or are you another one that doesn't like opinions on forums :cuckoo:
 
2blue4u said:
There we go :(

What a pity he couldn't give respect to the Duke of Kent during the presentation. Even Mohamed Lahyan the umpire gave respect when presented to the Duke. So, no, my opinion of him as a man has only been reinforced.

In the meantime, I'm enjoying watching Kristina Mladenovic on centre court :)
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so you should bow to people just because they are born to a certain family :cuckoo: I'd not bow to anyone, respect is earned not a birth right
 
fabs said:
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This

This thread is supposed to be about Wimbledon and the celebration a historic sporting achievement by a British tennis player, not an argument about whether he is British or Scottish.

If you want to have that argument, try another forum!
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I was most impressed with him forgetting to cuddle his mum :lol:
 
POAH said:
so you should bow to people just because they are born to a certain family :cuckoo: I'd not bow to anyone, respect is earned not a birth right
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I bowed when I met the queen.
 
Now the PM is talking about a knighthood for Murray.

What next a knighthood for winning the TP Photographer of the Year :lol:
 
I think under the circumstances he may have forgotten (if he was ever advised) that it was appropriate to bow to the Duke. What he did, the way he did it was magnificent, lets cut the young man a little slack shall we. I expect if and/or whe he's knighted he will remember to bow or do whatever he's advise. I'm sure he meant no disrespect and it was litterally a heat of the moment thing. Poor lad was exhausted and now we think it fair to hammer him for a minor mistake.

Having seen the Queen (on TV) ignore the then Ozzie PM's error when he dared to touch her I'm guessing the Duke will have brushed the "error" aside as nothing less than excusable under the circumstances.

It was an absolutely marvellous and well deserved win, I also hear he donated his prize money to a Cancer charity, anyone else heard that?

Matt
 
MatBin said:
I think under the circumstances he may have forgotten (if he was ever advised) that it was appropriate to bow to the Duke. What he did, the way he did it was magnificent, lets cut the young man a little slack shall we. I expect if and/or whe he's knighted he will remember to bow or do whatever he's advise. I'm sure he meant no disrespect and it was litterally a heat of the moment thing. Poor lad was exhausted and now we think it fair to hammer him for a minor mistake.

Having seen the Queen (on TV) ignore the then Ozzie PM's error when he dared to touch her I'm guessing the Duke will have brushed the "error" aside as nothing less than excusable under the circumstances.

It was an absolutely marvellous and well deserved win, I also hear he donated his prize money to a Cancer charity, anyone else heard that?

Matt
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I think it was the prize money from the previous tournament at Queens he donated.
 
MatBin said:
I think under the circumstances he may have forgotten (if he was ever advised) that it was appropriate to bow to the Duke. What he did, the way he did it was magnificent, lets cut the young man a little slack shall we. I expect if and/or whe he's knighted he will remember to bow or do whatever he's advise. I'm sure he meant no disrespect and it was litterally a heat of the moment thing. Poor lad was exhausted and now we think it fair to hammer him for a minor mistake.

Having seen the Queen (on TV) ignore the then Ozzie PM's error when he dared to touch her I'm guessing the Duke will have brushed the "error" aside as nothing less than excusable under the circumstances.

It was an absolutely marvellous and well deserved win, I also hear he donated his prize money to a Cancer charity, anyone else heard that?

Matt
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Why is it "appropriate" to bow the Duke? This kind of attitude blows my mind.
Are people so impoverished of self-respect that they think there are individuals who are innately worthy of bowing to? What's the duke done that means Andy Murray or anyone else should defer to him?
If I met the duke or the queen or any other royal, I'd treat them exactly the same as any other stranger.
And if they expected me to bow, they can go get bent, quite frankly.

If anything, the duke should be bowing to Murray.
 
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