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I had a Fuji S3PRO that had an interpolated 12mp sensor (hated the thing) yet now I have a D2H (4.1mp) and the results are much much better than a fuji yet my S1 and S2 were much better also
 
The question is why did you not like the S3, and why is the Nikon better.

Was it image quality, sharpness, colour?

Personally I never liked the results from the S1 and S2. Flesh tones looked all wrong to me compared to similar shots from Canon or Nikon
 
Chappers said:
The question is why did you not like the S3, and why is the Nikon better.

Was it image quality, sharpness, colour?

Personally I never liked the results from the S1 and S2. Flesh tones looked all wrong to me compared to similar shots from Canon or Nikon
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I love very fast on the spot shooting which the S3 Didnt like taking on the spot shots, Yet if I see one with the nikon its always in focus and nearly if not, always perfect every time when downloaded to my PC the S3 is a brilliant camera but it never suited me it could never get spur of the moment shots.
Please dont take this thread as something like a fuji hater thread as my missus uses the s2 every day and loves it
All I am wanting to know is why the 4mp nikon is better than the 12mp from fuji
 
badgerbaiter said:
contrary to what they say in Dixons, more megapixels doesnt mean better camera
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Thanks BB but it still leaves the question unanswered Why?
What is the answer to this Canon cameras with low mp are the same quality as Nikon with small mp
 
The D2h was a top-of-the-line pro camera when it came out, it's not surprising that it has better autofocus and better metering than a lower-specced camera.
 
Same reason that a 6mp DSLR will (probably) get better quality shots than a 10mp point and shoot... quality of components.

Isn't the S3's 12mp interpolated? So it kinda "guesses" at what it thinks some of the pixels should be?
 
One key word up there is 'interpolated' it means the sensor is not really 12 megapixels.

Other reasons can be down to sensor type and quality, physical size, lens quality....
 
Dangermouse1964 said:
The fuji is still recognised as the best camera for portrait or wedding stuff so yes it is still one of the best but it doesnt answer my actual question ..... why is my nikon giving better results than my s3 ...is it me or ????
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Because the Nikon sensor suits your style of shooting?

Because Nikon are godlike before the supplicant form of all other camera makers trying to redeem their lowly work?

Placebo effect?

Luck?
 
andrewc said:
The Fuji was also a high level dSLR but used different sensor technology.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/
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The S3's autofocus is from the Nikon F80, though, which is not only a prosumer camera but an eight year old prosumer camera. I'd expect a D2h to considerably outperform an S3, considering the D2h is aimed squarely at sports/news shooters.

Edit: that's not to say that it can't be user error, just that I wouldn't feel ripped off if my S3 didn't perform as well as a D2h since it isn't really supposed to.
 
Chappers said:
The question is why did you not like the S3, and why is the Nikon better.

Was it image quality, sharpness, colour?

Personally I never liked the results from the S1 and S2. Flesh tones looked all wrong to me compared to similar shots from Canon or Nikon
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Its funny you say that because alot of wedding and paper photographers up here used the fuji camera.
 
Ally said:
Its funny you say that because alot of wedding and paper photographers up here used the fuji camera.
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True, It's all down to personal taste. I simply preferred the Canon result. But then I don't shoot weddings, mainly editorial stuff
 
Its all about the size of the sensor. I forget the exact dimensions but if you have a small sensor in 4mp pixcell camera and put the same sensor in a 10mp camera like some of them do (to cut the cost right down) the picture quality will be almost the same.

For better quality pictures you need top of the range large sensors and 10+mp otherwise you're just wasting your money. If you read the small print most cameras state the sensor size or check test reports in the photo press.
 
If the sensors that create the information that is displayed by the pixels on the screen are all the same, and provide the same amount of information to create the image then more sensors/pixels is always better

BUT BUT

THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME

but very cleverly ignored by the marketing people

I'll take a high quality low resolution image over a low quality high resolution one any day
 
It also has to do with the size of the Photo sites. More pixels/photo sites mean smaller sites. The larger the photo site the more photons it picks up and the less amplification needed and the lower the noise. There are also other considerations which relate to site of the photo sites, such as shadowing from off axis light. It does get very complicated and I don't claim to understand it all. What it boils down to is the race to put more pixels on a chip may not give the best quality in the end , without a whole lot of R&D work to ensure the quality stays high.

As said above an lower resolution camera may give a better quality image than one with a higher pixel count.
 
dpreview now give a pixel density figure on their basic stats.

Also for interest value: http://6mpixel.org/en/ arguing that 6mp is the 'sweet spot' for camera resolution
 
social_lurker said:
dpreview now give a pixel density figure on their basic stats.

Also for interest value: http://6mpixel.org/en/ arguing that 6mp is the 'sweet spot' for camera resolution
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6mp on 1.6 crop, 1.3 crop or full size sensor? cant be best on all three due to the change in pixel density.

i think as a guide the pro range of cameras get it right, by keeping the pixel count a little on the low side.

The other question is do we really need so many pixels? as i type this my screen is set to 1680 x 1050 pixels - 1.7Mp...(yes i know it is 72dpi)
 
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