Why is Daily Mail BAD?

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:)After reading this forum for a while now why do a lot of people not like the Daily Mail?

I dont buy papers read most news on line so I am just interested really.:)
 
They are old fashioned, think gays are bad, always try and cause mass panic about house prices, all single mums are sluts (i wish that were true!!), every asylum seeker is a terrorist in the making etc.

They are a tabloid trying to be a broadsheet with old fashioned, out of date views on the world that are just not in touch with modern britain. It will die out when its generation does imo.
 
Because they write hysterical, paranoid, xenophobic conservative scaremongering and call it intellectual liberal comment, which is devoured by its unquestioning, opinionated, ill-informed middle-class audience as mind-fodder for their bigotry.

They even have to underline certain words in their headlines to make sure it's clear exactly what they expect their audience to think.

The Russel Brand/Jonathan Ross thing was a fine example of a successful campaign of theirs.
 
They were supporters of the British Union of Fascists back in the day and I'm not entirely sure their politics have shifted much further away from that side of the political spectrum since then.
 
mmmmmmmmmm interesting.

So which paper has has no views and just reports the news?
 
Because they write hysterical, paranoid, xenophobic conservative scaremongering and call it intellectual liberal comment, which is devoured by its unquestioning, opinionated, ill-informed middle-class audience as mind-fodder for their bigotry.

They even have to underline certain words in their headlines to make sure it's clear exactly what they expect their audience to think.

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Totally agree.

Lisa
 
I always thought the Metro was pretty central?
 
As somebody who gets to see nearly all the newspapers every day (and whilst at work too!!), the Daily Mail does not stand out above any of the others in any particular respect. They all run their scare stories. When you see a Mail immigrant rant you can pick up any of the others and see the same story. The Sun, Mirror, Express can be just as bad. And the Telegraph just hides them further back inside.

But on the other side of the coin - a Times editorial comment a few days ago said that Turkey joining the EU would be nothing but a good thing. Does anybody here think that this is the view of the majority of the British population? Housing, health, education, schools overcrowded and failing, transport structure, welfare, water supply, border security - all casualties of this government. Then there's the corruption and taxation. And the Times thinks we would all be happy to not only welcome another population in to our country but pay even more of our taxes directly to them. Which papers do you think know the true feeling of the majority here?

That's all I'm saying on this.
 
... Housing, health, education, schools overcrowded and failing, transport structure, welfare, water supply, border security - all casualties of this government. Then there's the corruption and taxation.

Oh I'm sure Turkey would put up with us...

Back on topic... I'll take the Morning Star thanks ;)

cheers
 
it was for quite a while, and it was my favourite newspaper, but its drifted into its owner's territory (Daily Mail) in the last year or so.

I agree.
Pretty much since they 'Facelifted' it really.
I don't read half the drivel in it now, just the fluffy stuff and the Nemi cartoon
 
I can't stand most of them now tbh - they're all far too London-centric, even though the combined M62 corridor population dwarves that of the capital conurbation. :thumbsdown: :D
 
my mum reads the mail and the middle 4 pages today were on how the NHS is killing people :O distinct lack of anything that doesn't scare people. Don't know if other papers are better because I use mostly online news and pick headlines I like from half a dozen rss feeds (not counting the lighting blogs :D)
 
I think one of my favourite stories was a few Christmases ago, when they had an exclusive story about how teenagers like to go out and get drunk, and - shockingly - some of them even experiment with recreational drugs omg omg omg omg!

From reading the 2-page spread article (replete with grainy, frum-tha-schtreet photos), you'd be forgiven for thinking that armageddon was coming.

"The youth today are weak, and prefer idleness, and luxury over intellectual pursuit. They spend their leisure playing music, and drinking, and respect neither their elders nor the fabric of society." - Pliny The Elder
 
Thanks for the input guys, I think I will stick to the on line news or remain totally ignorant lol
 
Honestly, mate - read it, just remember that the main porpoise of a newspaper is to shift advertising space, so they'll fill in the blanks with whatever they think their market will buy. They're pretty good at working out what that is.

It does tend to lead to the question "Do the media inform or reflect the point of view of the audience?", to which the answer is "A bit of both", and that's when the trouble starts.
 
They are old fashioned, think gays are bad, always try and cause mass panic about house prices, all single mums are sluts (i wish that were true!!), every asylum seeker is a terrorist in the making etc.

fair point ... but don't you think the free saturday TV guide is rather good ;);)
 
Honestly, mate - read it, just remember that the main porpoise of a newspaper is to shift advertising space, so they'll fill in the blanks with whatever they think their market will buy. They're pretty good at working out what that is.

I think that some papers at least are still vehicles for their owners to foist their political view on the world. Look at Murdoch and his rags.

I do however totally agree with your earlier description of the Mail, it's is an awful paper. There are few things which put me off when I see a pretty woman in public. One of them's if I see her smoking, another is lots of cheap jewellery and another is if she's reading the Mail.

The Diana Express is just as bad mind. All the furoure they made over the Jackie Smith's husband claiming for porn films. I wouldn't mind, but the Express is owned by a man who made his fortune peddling smut. It's typical of the 'holier than thou' attitude of most so called journalists. The Screws of the World is particularly bad, with their 'stings' which usually involve drugs and tarts. Again I wouldn't mind but the Screws and the Sun have topless girls in every day and the vast majority of tabloid journalists I've met have been coke heads at one time in their life.
 
As has been said, the media exist to proliferate themeselves and thus sell more advertising space (except the BBC who appear to be under the misaprehension that they have to behave as if they were not the BBC in order to be "fair").

Therefore there is a general preference to report something sensational rather than factual and interesting. In this way they can, at best, get a huge campaign going or, at worst, have a huge media storm about false reporting and retractions.

It would be nice to see clear, balanced and factual reporting rather than opinion. Just for once.
 
Hmmm, I like to curl up with a acoffee & a copy of the Mail on Saturday as it has some really good articles in it. Unfortunately the views expressed in it do mirror a lot of my own!!! :coat:
 
I never read newspapers nowadays. I find them all rather depressing, many are populated with terrible spelling and appalling grammar. My own spelling or grammar may not be the world's greatest, but hey - I don't write for a living.

When I was still working at my trade I only ever bought the Daily/Sunday Spurt. No news whatsoever, just inane drivel produced for entertainment value - and lots of nekkid wimmins. :naughty:
 
The Daily Mail us just pure vitriol. Every page is dripping with hatred and fear-mongering, especially the columnist's pages.

It's a distilled version of everything that is wrong with the media today.
 
Re the Metro newspaper

I agree.
Pretty much since they 'Facelifted' it really.
I don't read half the drivel in it now, just the fluffy stuff and the Nemi cartoon

I used to read the metro when I worked in central manchester and the office got a stack of them in the foyer. It was the only paper I read and I quite enjoyed doing the cryptic crossword[1] over lunch with my colleagues.

however, it's been years since I worked there, I never go anywhere that has metro's and they've got rid of the cryptic crossword. so even when i do see the metro now, I rarely bother.

dave

[1] my favourite clue was "A Willing Female (9)" it was the one answer we didn't get that day.. the answer? "Testatrix", ie a woman who writes a will...
 
The Diana Express is just as bad mind. All the furoure they made over the Jackie Smith's husband claiming for porn films. I wouldn't mind, but the Express is owned by a man who made his fortune peddling smut.

That'll be Richard "Dirty" Desmond :lol:

I'm going to stand up for the Mail, the rest of the daily rags are just as bad, if you believe The Sun, the Daily Star, The Guardian or The Independent are any less rabid in their views then you are sorely misguided....
 
Buy the Economist.

I have had a subscription for many years. They can explain a complex subject in outline in less than one page. Although it is business orientated in parts, there is decent reporting of Britain, Europe, USA, Asia, The Americas, etc. each week, with science and books & art too. The best thing is the quarterly technology review: really excellent.

Anthony.
 
I love the special features they do in each issue. It's hardcore reading but it's easy to read if you know what I mean. I've got the style guide book that they use for their writing, it's great.

The 'How China Sees the World' issue was great. The special feature on the rich in last weeks issue is pretty good too, very interesting.
 
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