Why I want a D700, Argue with me!

I also know abosolutly nothing about Phd student's either then LMAO
 
D300s will gove you most of that above and yet you can afford to eat for a year and by some lenses and not sell the dog,kids and gran to egt it !"

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What people forget is that having full frame lenses doesn't mean you won't need/ want to replace them. The change in view you get when moving to full frame can make an existing kit feel awkward. Normal lenses become wide and tele lenses no longer zoom that far. Had this argument with a pro and ex film shooter on another forum - he replaced most of his lenses within a few months.

If you need to change lenses the cost of moving will soon spiral. Given the way we tend to collect kit this can be an argument for moving sooner rather than later if you will move at some point.

As others have said, you'll find the body and larger lenses heavy, especially coming from a D60 - I'd hate to see another 'bought too much kit and moving to MFTs' thread :D
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I kind of get what you mean, but as I have a 40-58-85 they are at present 60-85-135 so some will just turn into other lenses,
 
My problem with buying a D700 is I know I will want to upgrade to a D3s
 
Get one of those disposible cameras from the supermarket instead, they're full frame.

Or buy a Fuji S1500, I use my one quite a bit. Makes me realise how awsome the D60 is.
 
Being argumentative.....go for a D300s or a used D300. I know you said manual focus, but I'm guessing you want AF at some point? The focus points on the D700 are fairly central, they're everywhere on the D300, cant fail to pick one

Er...thats about the only real thing I can argue with you on. The D700 is generally just ace
 
Don't think I want to go to auto foucs as the image quailty and build quitly is far superior to any sub £1K nikkor prime, and that is why the veiw finder of the D700 is so appealing,

Stuart
 
Funnily enough I'm in a similar position ( not a student though ), I'm looking at upgrading my D80 to a D700, hopefully looking to get one in Jan, probably a used one, they seem to go for about £1300 on eBay , and I've seen them go as low as £1150 on here.

The only problem I have, is no lenses, so looks like a 85mm f/1.8 til I save some money and get the 24-70.
 
stu_the_flat said:
Cheers guys, I supose the problem and why I am writing this post is because of one basic fundmental flaw with the D700... I can't afford it! I just want you tell tell me that a smelly old D200 will be just as good! :D

But I also want to avoid the route that trigs took, Dare I ask how much that cost?

I have also heard of D700 owners start pandering for a D3, I don't think kit lust ever ends it just get hampered by the weight you are strong enough to carry!

Stuart
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If you can't afford it, the choice is quite simple - you can't afford it! I'm afraid a smelly old D200 really won't be anywhere near as good, especially in the high ISO area where the 700 (and 3 series) excell. While we're talking about affordability, what is your lens line up at the moment? Are they FF compatible? If not, that's anothr area of expense, with the ideal line up of Nikon lenses (14-24, 24-70 & 70-200, all f/2.8) costing a little over £4,000 for the set. Of course, there are Sigma equivalents (well, the 12-24 is a bit shorter and slower but is FF compatible) but even that set will be over £2,500.

From a D700 user who has no hankering for a D3!
 
Interestingly, I had a D200 and D700 at the same time and sold both for the D90. The D200 is a cracking camera, but above ISO 400, you'll see noise.

At the end of the day, if you cant afford it, you cant afford it. It wont make you a better photographer, as I found out and is part if the reason why I downgraded to the D90.

There are bargains though if you really want to buy one. I bought my D700 brand new with warranty for £1450. I sold it 6 months later for £1700!
 
Echoing Nod, if you can't afford it... you can't afford it! So maybe stop thinking about it, get a D90/7000/300/300s body instead and enjoy the upgrade for a few years whilst saving for a D700 or it's replacement. Seems like a simple choice.

I loved my D90 and only got the D300 for the faster FPS and functionality. Obv if you have the money (which you don't) and if the main issue is you want more accurate manual focusing/bigger view finder you should go get a D700 and eat beans for the next few years, no point getting somthing that you'll not be happy with.

Sorry, that's not very helpful really!
 
Cheers guys,

Ok so its not that I can't afford it, it would just represent a large chunk of my income. but the money is in the bank should I choose to spend it.

I have had an idea, I will rent one for a weekend and if I suddenly take better pictures I will buy one, If I look at them and I can't see a vest imporovment I won't!

Now where is the best place to rent? Why don't "lenses for hire" hire out cameras! :D

Stuart
 
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3 day hire from Camerarent for £103.69 inc vat, delivery & insurance etc. That's a very good price.
 
PS. I wouldn't bother hiring it - you'll only end up buying one anyway and you'll have wasted £103.69.
 
Ozei said:
3 day hire from Camerarent for £103.69 inc vat, delivery & insurance etc. That's a very good price.
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Actually - it's not as good as it sounds.

It says 3 days but they can deliver anytime between 7am and 12pm on day one - and collect anytime between 7am and 6pm on day 3.
 
why not a second hand d300 or d300s? I think it does tick all your boxes (save for FF) and vastly more affordable. I went from a d40 to a d300 and absolutely loooove the difference. I reckon I'll use the d300 for a few years before taking the next step up. It has made a signficant difference to the pictures I take. That said, if you are set on a d700 then you will find faults in the d300 until you decide you have made a mistake. I think the only regret you'll have about a d700 is the money you've spent on it and after all that's what it's there for, spending.
 
The D700 is one of the very few cameras that doesn't seem to attract any real criticism at all, and it's more affordable, to more people, than the D3 series. Just get it, if that's what you want and you can afford it.

I wouldn't wait for the D700's replacement, to see if prices go down. They can go up too, if there are problems with the new camera or it's significantly more expensive, increasing demand for the old model.

Don't worry about 3 years down the track. The D700 will be just as good as it is now. There may (will?) be better choices then, but that's always going to be the case.
 
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I think Calumet offer a weekends rental for the cost of one day. (although its not to clear if its only from Drummond street), I get 10% student discount and if I buy it from them within 14 days (which I probably will because I get 10% discount on the D700 as well!) they will refund the rental costs under there try before you buy scheme,

I also might get a lone of a Zeiss 25mm f2.8 ZF-IR from Zeiss at the same time! Will make for and interesting weekend!

Stuart
 
stu_the_flat said:
I also might get a lone of a Zeiss 25mm f2.8 ZF-IR from Zeiss at the same time! Will make for and interesting weekend!
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...and I think we know how it'll turn out :lol:
 
MadMacro said:
How about a compromise?

Would one of these slake your lust?
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Nope :lol:

A MB-D11 battery grip - what else would that work on
A EN-EL15 battery - as above.....

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I bet if you tried a D300 or D300s you'd find that a massive step up from your D60, but for a lot less money......
 
The biggest (and best) argument against the D700 is 'reach' you are losing the 1.5 crop factor so if you like taking wild life shots be prepared to get a lot closer or invest in more glass if you have anything less than 400mm.
 
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The biggest (and best) argument against the D700 is 'reach' you are losing the 1.5 crop factor so if you like taking wild life shots be prepared to get a lot closer or invest in more glass if you have anything less than 400mm.
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His longest lens is 85mm, I have this feeling range won't be a problem. There's always cropping. Five out of 12MP will be equivalent to the 1.5x factor and won't be too bad.

Ok so its not that I can't afford it, it would just represent a large chunk of my income. but the money is in the bank should I choose to spend it.
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Will you finish your PhD within three years? That completing research graduate year can eat into your saving, should you still be busy with writing up (probably because you spent all your time playing with the D700, haha).
 
stu_the_flat said:
I think Calumet offer a weekends rental for the cost of one day. (although its not to clear if its only from Drummond street), I get 10% student discount and if I buy it from them within 14 days (which I probably will because I get 10% discount on the D700 as well!) they will refund the rental costs under there try before you buy scheme,

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Stuart
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So you get a refund on the day's rental and 10% off £1,799?

That's £1,619!! :eek::eek::eek:
 
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