Why do people hide the picture properties on their flickr?

it strips out the EXIF if you dont tell it to retain the data.
mine Save to Web is set to retain all the EXIF data - if you look at the dialog box you can see there's an option to strip or retain.
 
Is it because a lot of photographer's, some who even make a living from taking pictures, don't shoot Manually, and prefer the safety of TV AV or, dare I even mention it, Auto mode....... Nothing necesarily wrong with hobbyists doing that of course, as it was how I learned. ;-)
 
Mike Hughes said:
Is it because a lot of photographer's, some who even make a living from taking pictures, don't shoot Manually, and prefer the safety of TV AV or, dare I even mention it, Auto mode....... Nothing necesarily wrong with hobbyists doing that of course, as it was how I learned. ;-)
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I make money from photography, my sole income in fact, and use AV and TV all the time. Why? Because it makes my job easier. It doesn't mean that I don't know how to shoot manually. :nono:
 
purpleclouds said:
I make money from photography, my sole income in fact, and use AV and TV all the time. Why? Because it makes my job easier. It doesn't mean that I don't know how to shoot manually. :nono:
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exif data is not lost if you add layers/borders etc in PS. make sure you select the option to export ALL exif data in the Save to Web dialog.
 
Thanks guys! I never knew that some programs stripped it. You learn something new everyday. :)
 
Mike Hughes said:
Is it because a lot of photographer's, some who even make a living from taking pictures, don't shoot Manually, and prefer the safety of TV AV or, dare I even mention it, Auto mode....... Nothing necesarily wrong with hobbyists doing that of course, as it was how I learned. ;-)
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and what exactly is wrong with anyone using AV and TV hobbiest or pro?

more to the point, who cares how it was shot if it gets the desired result.

:annoyed:
 
Mike Hughes said:
Is it because a lot of photographer's, some who even make a living from taking pictures, don't shoot Manually, and prefer the safety of TV AV or, dare I even mention it, Auto mode....... Nothing necesarily wrong with hobbyists doing that of course, as it was how I learned. ;-)
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Funniest post for a long time, well done............:D

For all those who don`t shoot manual, sell your gear now, for thou art not worthy of having decent equipment..........:lol:
 
purpleclouds said:
I make money from photography, my sole income in fact, and use AV and TV all the time. Why? Because it makes my job easier. It doesn't mean that I don't know how to shoot manually. :nono:
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:plusone:

Yep, though 90% of what i shoot is in Manual, AV and TV have there place. Its the end result that matters
 
Rovers_Andy said:
:plusone:

Yep, though 90% of what i shoot is in Manual, AV and TV have there place. Its the end result that matters
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I would say that this is probably true for most people. For wedding and event photography, I would agree that when the pressure is on to get the shots in the bag then you take the safest option. You only get the one chance.

And yeah, the end result is all important, again no arguments there. However I would be disappointed if I were a client though, and my portrait shoot was being conducted by a photographer using either aperture or shutter priority. I don't see how you can justify not shooting manual in this situation. Again I would say the same for many commercial, product shoots etc.

Just an opinion. But I would see it as one of the main differences between how a professional and an amateur works. :)
 
Mike Hughes said:
Just an opinion. But I would see it as one of the main differences between how a professional and an amateur works. :)
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Ridiculous.

I bet professional photographers wear black suits too and arrive to their jobs in Range Rovers.
 
Its all about what the photographer is comfortable with Mike, i can certainly see where your coming from with your point but not with how your making it.

Yes (we as photographers) would expect to see a photographer using Manual as it is associated with a certain skill level and showing a complete understanding of how to control the camera but pro photographers also make full use of AV and TV. for example some football photographers will choose to use AV when lighting conditions are inconsistent. I believe that some Motorsports photographers like to use Shutter Priority.

I agree that if i had booked a photographer for a portrait sitting (where they have full control of lighting and location) i would be a bit miffed if they didnt use manual
 
KayJay said:
Ridiculous.

I bet professional photographers wear black suits too and arrive to their jobs in Range Rovers.
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Yeah, you're right. And of course the top professional photographers, your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's all use AV and TV. As do the top studio photographers. Of course they do. So where then is the distinction between what is a GWC and Prof. Is it having th fancier gear- which of course you make sure and use in pre-set mode. Rubbish....

If you are a Professional, you should by and large be using manual- not for every shoot and not all the time, but by and large. Not because it is the law, but because it is a skill that you have learned and honed over time and sets you apart from the average happy snapper AS a professional. It's no bloody wonder there are 100,000 photography businesses springing up every year if they all share your attitude.

Have fancy camera- will let it do all the work for me before transferring into CS4 to auto correct.

If you are taking money and are happy to put in only half the effort required, by shooting in preset's, you need to have a word with yourself.
 
Mike Hughes said:
Yeah, you're right. And of course the top professional photographers, your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's all use AV and TV. As do the top studio photographers. Of course they do. So where then is the distinction between what is a GWC and Prof. Is it having th fancier gear- which of course you make sure and use in pre-set mode. Rubbish....

If you are a Professional, you should by and large be using manual- not for every shoot and not all the time, but by and large. Not because it is the law, but because it is a skill that you have learned and honed over time and sets you apart from the avarage happy snapper AS a professional. It's no bloody wonder there are 100,000 photography businesses springing up every year if they all share your attitude.

Have fancy camera- will let it do all the work for me before transferring into CS4 to auto correct.

If you are taking money and are happy to put in only half the effort required, by shooting in preset's, you need to have a word with yourself.
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I shoot football. Light changes, quickly sometimes. Now then, if I were shooting on manual, do you honestly think it is possible to change settings on the fly while trying to capture any one/two/three of 22 men and only one ball?? I know in any given chance, what settings I would use... but it just isn't possible to always change it quickly enough.

On the other hand, sometimes it is EASIER to shoot manual, if you have clear blue skies/totally overcast/floodlit, where it is easier to get a good exposure, then stick it in manual with those settings.

Or should I put it on AV under floodlights just to make it more difficult for myself, and therefore more 'professional' for me?

Studio photographers generally have to use manual, as studio lights won't be taken into account when doing TTL metering, therefore making the cameras calculations in AV and TV useless. That's how it works in a studio. Even then, settings tend not to vary all that much, unless you are doing something experimental. White background stuff, 1/125, f7.1, ISO200 and away you go...
 
Have fancy camera- will let it do all the work for me before transferring into CS4 to auto correct.
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Its kinda worrying that you believe that. The bulk of the work should be in composition, creativity, communicating an idea. The technical stuff is a distant second.
 
Mike Hughes said:
Yeah, you're right. And of course the top professional photographers, your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's all use AV and TV. As do the top studio photographers. Of course they do. So where then is the distinction between what is a GWC and Prof. Is it having th fancier gear- which of course you make sure and use in pre-set mode. Rubbish....

If you are a Professional, you should by and large be using manual- not for every shoot and not all the time, but by and large. Not because it is the law, but because it is a skill that you have learned and honed over time and sets you apart from the avarage happy snapper AS a professional. It's no bloody wonder there are 100,000 photography businesses springing up every year if they all share your attitude.

Have fancy camera- will let it do all the work for me before transferring into CS4 to auto correct.

If you are taking money and are happy to put in only half the effort required, by shooting in preset's, you need to have a word with yourself.
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Do you normally tell people how to do their job?

TV and AV are presets? That's news to me. How can you possibly expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you don't even know that?

Baby mode. That's a preset. A true preset would mean that you have no control over any variables in camera. Candle Portrait, that's a preset too. Of course if you used those for a job you'd expect to be ridiculed. I'll shoot in any way I want as long as I get the desired photograph and the client is happy.

You're right in one respect, if you take your craft seriously you should know your camera inside and out.

I don't know what your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's use. I don't really care to be honest. I also doubt they'd care for such an argument either.
 
purpleclouds said:
Studio photographers generally have to use manual, as studio lights won't be taken into account when doing TTL metering, therefore making the cameras calculations in AV and TV useless. That's how it works in a studio. Even then, settings tend not to vary all that much, unless you are doing something experimental. White background stuff, 1/125, f7.1, ISO200 and away you go...
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I wish there was a nail on the head smiley.
 
sorry Mike. Im sure you have valid points to make but your style of writing and confrontational manner in the forum is not going to win you any friends :nono:
 
:dummy:

:cuckoo:

:boxer:

:popcorn:

Incidentally, what does any of this have to do with Sarah's OP???
 
andy_fozzy said:
:dummy:

:cuckoo:

:boxer:

:popcorn:

Incidentally, what does any of this have to do with Sarah's OP???
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I think it's because Mike insinuated that it was because some people may be embarrassed to show off their metadata? Not sure.
 
Woah- not sure I like the atmosphere in here. I like shooting on Av most of the time- but it depends on the subject.
 
aligibbs said:
Woah- not sure I like the atmosphere in here. I like shooting on Av most of the time- but it depends on the subject.
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Thats part of my point. you know the best setting for you and you produce a high standard product with it:)

sorry that could sound patronising and i apologise if it does.

I'll stop digging that hole now :D
 
Exactly, part of the skill as a photographer is knowing what mode or settings will give you the best results. There's too much elitism in photography that suggests if you don't use manual your not a "proper" photographer
 
KayJay said:
Do you normally tell people how to do their job?

TV and AV are presets? That's news to me. How can you possibly expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you don't even know that?

Baby mode. That's a preset. A true preset would mean that you have no control over any variables in camera. Candle Portrait, that's a preset too. Of course if you used those for a job you'd expect to be ridiculed. I'll shoot in any way I want as long as I get the desired photograph and the client is happy.

You're right in one respect, if you take your craft seriously you should know your camera inside and out.

I don't know what your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's use. I don't really care to be honest. I also doubt they'd care for such an argument either.
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And where in my post do I say that AV and TV are preset's? Nice to make things up to suit your own argument.....

Staff Edit - please leave personal insults at the door.
 
Mike Hughes said:
Yeah, you're right. And of course the top professional photographers, your Bailey's, Rankin's and Cornish's all use AV and TV....... Is it having th fancier gear- which of course you make sure and use in pre-set mode. Rubbish....
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That's not far off it Mike!
 
Trappe said:
I often find that if I create a border and use layers it often ends up with all the exif data lost...A bit annoying at times and it's not intentional.
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Doing this work will not remove it. Its all about how you save you image.
I resize my image to the 800 max and save as this keeps all EXIF if you save for web it will strip it out to make the file smaller unless you change settings.
 
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