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Just sold a lens for a real low price, it was in it's original box with the paperwork, just as the day I bought it new. I stated in the advert absolutely NO OFFERS at this LOW price, and it was low as I checked what they were going for elsewhere. I had mine priced less just for a quick sale, twice the buyer tried to knock £10 off, then asked me to knock £5 off. This really does my head in, especially when I have priced items at a very low price in the first place, and when I have said NO OFFERS clearly in the advert !
 
Frustrating:( buyers ALWAYS try knocking you down... should add enough on the price so that when they knock it down they feel they are getting a good deal without you feeling pants!
 
Just say No and and leave it at that, happened to me once then when someone came along and offered the full price the original
person pm'd to say he would pay it too, got told where to go ;)
 
Cg_Girl said:
Frustrating:( buyers ALWAYS try knocking you down... should add enough on the price so that when they knock it down they feel they are getting a good deal without you feeling pants!
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Gremlin said:
Just say No and and leave it at that, happened to me once then when someone came along and offered the full price the original
person pm'd to say he would pay it too, got told where to go ;)
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I priced my lens about £25 lower than what I saw them elsewhere second hand, and my lens was in as good a condition as the day I bought it new. Only used it on a few occasions, and I kept it boxed and tucked safely away. It looked like a brand new lens, no wonder the buyers eyes lit up when he saw it.

I could have added a few quid so as they could make an offer, but if I did that it would not look as attractive in the beginning. I simply stood my ground and said NO firmly, I said to myself, if he tries to bargain me down again, I will refuse to sell him the lens .
 
I feel your pain.
I get fed up when I list something on eBay, list it as an auction and state quite clearly in the description that it's an auction, there's no Buy it Now and I won't end it early.
Can guarantee to get at least one, often 2 or 3 messages asking if I'll take £xx for a quick sale!!
 
I ignore low offers. Some people get irate when ignored, but if it upsets them that much they should offer the asking price.
 
viv1969 said:
Just say no or dont reply at all.
Life's too short to get bent about it.
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Person asked would I be open to offers, I said no. They said they would be happy with asking price then. When they arrived, they still tried it on. I knew they would buy it at asking price, as the price was lowest available, just they want it for even less.
 
Most people want to pay as little as possible, personally I tend to only put an offer in if I don't think the price is right, or if I'm only 50% bothered about getting it :lol: but case in point my most recent purchase I believed the seller was very fair on the price, plus it's an item that usually sells fast so I offered the asking price no point low balling when it was priced correct and I really wanted it...

That said if someone specifies no offers then I'd stick with that
 
Reminds me of a chap I knew some years ago who was selling a motorbike at a very good price. His advert clearly stated no offers.

Guy comes to look at it and offers him less than asking.

Without a word he wheeled it back into the garage.

Potential punter asked him what he was doing - he wants to buy it.

Chap says, but I don't want to sell it to you.

Next punter bought it at asking.
 
i know the feeling - when i sold my d70 the guy comes round inspects it and tried to offer me less so i said theres the door - pay me what was agreed or sod off - he bought it at the price offered. you will always get them...
 
Because the general nature of second hand goods is try to barter... it's all about the buyer thinking they are getting a bargain. In reality bung on £5 or £10 or so, depending on the end value you want and prepare to negotiate. That way, happy punter, and you get what you want.
 
It really does annoy me when people try it on, I always sell my items less than places like ebay and second hand shops etc. Plus I look after my stuff, and always keep items in the original box. I always make sure my items are in perfect working order, as I like people to be happy with any items that I sell on. I once had a lovely dining table and chairs in lovely condition, I stated free to good home but new owner must collect. I had people still asking could I drop it off for them, when I said OK but I will need £5 to cover petrol, they said no they don't want it any longer!

Why have we become so cheeky and greedy, or has that always been the case ? :thinking:
 
jonbeeza said:
Just sold a lens for a real low price, it was in it's original box with the paperwork, just as the day I bought it new. I stated in the advert absolutely NO OFFERS at this LOW price, and it was low as I checked what they were going for elsewhere. I had mine priced less just for a quick sale, twice the buyer tried to knock £10 off, then asked me to knock £5 off. This really does my head in, especially when I have priced items at a very low price in the first place, and when I have said NO OFFERS clearly in the advert !
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Then advertised any items at a fraction more than you'd expect to get- this will then compensate for any knocking of the price

Simples,

Les :D
 
Lez325 said:
Then advertised any items at a fraction more than you'd expect to get- this will then compensate for any knocking of the price

Simples,

Les :D
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Yes I suppose I could do, but then the lens will be the same price as elsewhere and not look as good a bargain.
 
From the top of my head and without looking on ebay and other second hand places, just going by what I paid for one new a few years ago. I paid about £105 for a 50mm 1.8D and I know they go from anywhere from about £65 to about £85 second hand give or take a fiver here or there. If I wanted a quick sale I might stick mine up at about £50 ( not got one for sale ) and state £50 NO OFFERS !

I would also say the item is as new boxed and my stuff is always very well looked after, You know it's a bargain so would you still put a cheeky offer in ? Yes I know I could simply bang another tenner or so on top, to compensate for the cheeky offers, but the item then becomes the same price as all the others on offer !

By the way the above was just an example, and not the lens I sold
 
Works both ways - I list items at a price that'd allow for some haggling and I've had people who'd expressed an interest go elsewhere. I drop the price and they tell me that they'd have bought from me if they'd known I was willing to take an offer at the lower price, despite not having made an offer themselves. I've also turned down an offer of £150 for a bike engine on ebay only for the auction to end at £50. Swings and roundabouts. Takes no time to say 'no thanks' or point out that you're serious about not accepting offers.

What annoys me is people who attempt to haggle by asking, "what's your best price?" as though they're channelling Mike Brewer and fancy they'd look good in a camelhair coat and pork pie hat. My best price is the full asking price. Your best price might be less than that but we'll never know if I'll sell it at that price unless you tell me what it is. I'm not going to haggle for you, you halfwit.



(I realise what I've done here is cause myself an awful lot of work copy/pasting replies next time I list something in the Classifieds but I needed to get it off my chest.)
 
Strappy said:
Works both ways - I list items at a price that'd allow for some haggling and I've had people who'd expressed an interest go elsewhere. I drop the price and they tell me that they'd have bought from me if they'd known I was willing to take an offer at the lower price, despite not having made an offer themselves. I've also turned down an offer of £150 for a bike engine on ebay only for the auction to end at £50. Swings and roundabouts. Takes no time to say 'no thanks' or point out that you're serious about not accepting offers.

What annoys me is people who attempt to haggle by asking, "what's your best price?" as though they're channelling Mike Brewer and fancy they'd look good in a camelhair coat and pork pie hat. My best price is the full asking price. Your best price might be less than that but we'll never know if I'll sell it at that price unless you tell me what it is. I'm not going to haggle for you, you halfwit.



(I realise what I've done here is cause myself an awful lot of work copy/pasting replies next time I list something in the Classifieds but I needed to get it off my chest.)
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Yeah people that ask you best price or what's the lowest you'll take? Is a real bug bear for me, basically they're trying to circumvent the haggling process, to my mind that type of question should be banned, you should have to make an offer not expect the seller to make you an offer
 
Strappy said:
Works both ways - I list items at a price that'd allow for some haggling and I've had people who'd expressed an interest go elsewhere. I drop the price and they tell me that they'd have bought from me if they'd known I was willing to take an offer at the lower price, despite not having made an offer themselves.
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If an item is up at a price I regard as too high, I ignore it and move on rather than start arguing. So, you lose a potential sale by overpricing to allow haggling. Then again if you get your asking price you win. Swings and roundabouts I suppose.
 
I saw something daft like this on Facebook. Something was listed for ~£180. Seller was getting a few lower offers so they said the best they could do was £160. Someone asked them for their best price, they repeated £160. The same person then asked if they'd take £150 :banghead: Why bother asking if you're going to completely disregard their answer?
 
onomatopoeia said:
If an item is up at a price I regard as too high, I ignore it and move on rather than start arguing. So, you lose a potential sale by overpricing to allow haggling.
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If you can't be bothered to haggle then you've missed out on a potential bargain. It's a to-and-fro process; make a silly offer, I'll refuse but come down a bit, you make a counter-offer and we'll normally end up somewhere in the middle.

That said, I research my pricing before I list anything, basing it on what items are selling for now and not what I paid for it. Knock a bit off to allow for fees if I'd listed it elsewhere and keep the bargaining within reason. I understand that some people don't want to haggle because they think they're really bad at it or are going to be ripped off, that's why we have feedback scores and post pictures of the items for sale to provide reassurance and why buyers can price point if they think an item is over-priced. It's not a guessing game. :)
 
MWHCVT said:
Yeah people that ask you best price or what's the lowest you'll take? Is a real bug bear for me, basically they're trying to circumvent the haggling process, to my mind that type of question should be banned, you should have to make an offer not expect the seller to make you an offer
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I think next time I will say, if you want to haggle I will bang an extra £20 or so on the price, if not the price advertised stands. What does my head in is when they try and haggle, then get a wad of cash out to pay. It's not that they are short of cash in the first place!
 
jonbeeza said:
I think next time I will say, if you want to haggle I will bang an extra £20 or so on the price, if not the price advertised stands. What does my head in is when they try and haggle, then get a wad of cash out to pay. It's not that they are short of cash in the first place!
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Why do you think they've rich :lol: because they don't spend their money easily ;)
 
I would hate to work in the retail business and having people haggling the price down, I imagine it would be so depressing! I worked in the catering trade for over thirty years, nobody ever haggled the price, well how could you? Imagine going into a Restaurant and ordering a meal, then asking what's the best price they can do. Imagine the shame of it! Not only are people happy to pay the price without question, they will drop you a few quid if you smile nicely when you serve them :)
 
If an advert says no offers and its above what i want to pay i'd skip it and respect the instruction. If it didn't state no offers i'd try and haggle a lower price even if i felt it was value for money simply because if you don't ask you don't get. Someone may of loaded a bit of wiggle room on top of their offer price in case of haggling, or they simple say no then it's up to me to either up the offer or again move on.
 
jonbeeza said:
Imagine the shame of it!
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You've lost me with that one - where's the shame in haggling? Admittedly it'd be a pretty strange thing to do in a restaurant and I'd quite like to see the manager's reaction but it's hardly shameful.

As I understand it,* you're entitled to make an offer - a given price is an invitation, it's not binding until both parties have agreed and committed to the deal. You're perfectly within your rights to go into Sainsburys, do your weekly shop and then ask the cashier to accept an offer below the asking price. And they're equally entitled to tell you to do one. :)





* Disclaimer: I'm posting this on the internet - where do you think I got the information in the first place?
 
Sharky said:
If an advert says no offers and its above what i want to pay i'd skip it and respect the instruction. If it didn't state no offers i'd try and haggle a lower price even if i felt it was value for money simply because if you don't ask you don't get. Someone may of loaded a bit of wiggle room on top of their offer price in case of haggling, or they simple say no then it's up to me to either up the offer or again move on.
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I sold an item once at a really low price just for a very speedy sale, as I needed a little cash fast. My item was in very good condition with not much usage, and I stated NO OFFERS in the advert. The buyer asked why was I selling it so cheaply, he wanted to know was there something wrong with it. He came down to see the item, realised it was under priced and said yes he will take it. He even had the Cheek to still come out with a how much for Cash. As if I would take any other form of payment!
 
I did a boot sale last week

A game I'd bought for £5, unopened , still in the cellophane

It went like this

How much is this

£1

Would you take 50p

No

Ok I'll leave it

An hour later she comes back as I'm packing up

Do you still have that game

Yes but I've packed it away

She said can I have another look at it so I opened 3 boxes before I found it

She looks at it for a good minute and says, would you take 75p

She didn't like my reply so I still have it
 
wack61 said:
I did a boot sale last week.....
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Worst place to sell your stuff, but the best place to buy. I suppose if someone wants a knock-down real cheap bargain, someone has to lose. Just some buyers can really take the P.
 
onomatopoeia said:
I ignore low offers. Some people get irate when ignored, but if it upsets them that much they should offer the asking price.
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agreed i dont even respond just let them time out that annoys them even more
 
Item priced at (say) a tenner...
Buyer "I'll give you a fiver."
Seller "£12"
B. "7.50?"
S. "£15"
b. "OK, I'll give you a tenner."
S. "OK but I won't give you the item!"

Depending on what and where, I'll often make an offer but not if an ad or notice says "no offers" - I can read! If I think something's worth the asking price, I'll usually take it at that but might still make an offer.
 
They do it because they like the idea of trying to screw you. If they can get one over on you it makes them feel good.
 
Nod said:
Item priced at (say) a tenner...
Buyer "I'll give you a fiver."
Seller "£12"
B. "7.50?"
S. "£15"
b. "OK, I'll give you a tenner."
S. "OK but I won't give you the item!"
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Depending on what and where, I'll often make an offer but not if an ad or notice says "no offers" - I can read! If I think something's worth the asking price, I'll usually take it at that but might still make an offer.
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Of course if it's worth the asking price, or if it is less than you have spotted the same item elsewhere, then buy the item knowing it's a good price. While items such as houses over priced cars etc bargain them down by all means.

Most car prices have the haggle price built into them anyway, and if you have no trade in you can get a bit knocked off. I once tried to buy a new car and trade my motorbike in, I was told if I did not trade my bike in, they would knock £800 off the car. So I saved £800 and sold my bike instead, made no sense to trade it in.
 
Meh, the way I see it is if you don't ask you don't get. Sometimes obviously you don't get when you ask but it's worth a try lol
 
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