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Just a heads up, sos if its been shown or posted before.

9:00 BBC4 tonight, Seven photographs that changed fashion

Could be interesting, the content certainly sounds like the who's who of Vogue.
I just bought myself "People in Vogue a century of portraits", so I'm looking forward to it :)
 
:thumbs: Thanks,

Could be good
 
Thanks Joxby, I just bought the 100 years of Vanity Fair one and it's a cracker too. Should make interesting viewing. :)
 
How can someone as talented as Rankin be so desperately, obsessively racked with insecurity when using film :lol:

I thought it was quite good, he made a decent attempt, it was odd, at the start he was trying to re-create, but by the end was settling for capturing the feel, and with the easier shoots :thinking:

The 10x8 copy of Cecil Beaton's hat box, was by far the best and probably the toughest, and still he shot digital as back-up :shake:
 
joxby said:
How can someone as talented as Rankin be so desperately, obsessively racked with insecurity when using film :lol:
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Thought that myself... and actually was he responsible, the Cecil beaton one - it was his assistant that fired the shutter for the the first of the 2 shots
 
I found a couple of them to be inferior to the originals, the lighting on one was all wrong and he just didn't seem able to get that right. The one with the tyres had a completely different feel to it, it was much lighter in tone than the original.

I guess it just goes to show, once again, how good some of these originals really were. I remember one digital photo mag trying to recreate the famous pic of Christine Keeler sitting backwards on the chair, shot by Morley, and utterly failing!

I've DVD'd Rankins show and I'll watch it again.......and again....
 
joxby said:
The 10x8 copy of Cecil Beaton's hat box, was by far the best and probably the toughest, and still he shot digital as back-up :shake:
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That was the only one I liked actually, I just don't think he really hit the mark with the other photographs. I'm really unsure about his choice of models for some of the shots too :thinking:. It was worth a watch for sure though :).
 
I'm gonna email him and call him a complete digital nancy :lol:
That's it, he's so used to being in complete control of every pixel, he fell to bits.
I dunno why, the hat box on film looked superb, so he can do it, just gotta throw the digi head out the window, no short cuts.
To be fair, some of those like with the elephants were really tough, I think he could have done a better job with the Bourdin red wall one, and that was digital..:lol:
 
It was interesting that Sophie Ellis Bextor said how peaceful it was being shot with film compared to digital!!!

I was one of the most interesting programs on photography I have seen in a long time. Not pretentious at all. And I must say I liked Rankins interpretation of the 1950 Vogue cover, however credit must go to the model for sticking her tongue out.
 
I think the length of time and thought that goes into film helps but above all it really does have an awesome aesthetic. I don't know why it's so lovely but I suspect neither do any of the SLR manufacturers (they still haven't managed to get the tone and colour rendition quite the same after all of these years :P). I think it's particularly noticeable with black and white film shots, especially portraits and colour landscapes. If you have a look through the film section of the forum here you will see the lovely work joxby (and others, sorry I'm terrible at names) have been doing. A quick glance at these is all the proof you need that film is here to stay for some time yet :p.

Sorry, this sort of ended up turning into a mini-rant :bonk:.
 
I've just finished watching it and thought it was a really enjoyable programme. I'm not really into fashion photography (make that not at all) but I thought that David Bailey shot was brilliant in it's simplicity. I also found the biog bit on Helmut Newton interesting so I'm off to google his work in a bit. Would be good if BBC4 made this into a series using 7 shots from other disciplines, they can give landscapes a miss though.
 
I watched it last night and found it fascinating, especially the processes around a large shoot, the number of assistants etc. I loved the idea of the lectern to have the laptop on when shooting in the street.
 
It's out there on the internet if you want to download it in pieces.
 
where in pieces?
shame about iplayer i shall have to beg mother to record it as i don't have a tv in my room
 
Available here I've never used one of these sites so don't know what the risks are. The link was posted on a flickr group I use.
 
14 Jan 2009 21:00 BBC Four
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for anyone interested the BJP magazine is unning an article on this programme next week. I'm not sure of the exact content but the front page preview says

"Fashion Redux - Rankin goes back to the masters"

and uses Rankin's shot with the elephants.
 
caught the last 15 mins this morning, approx 03.30. Just checking if it's available on bbc iplayer!

*** Bummer, It ain't.

Rob.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed the programme, some iconic images, and the process of getting to the final image was particularly interesting.
 
Watched this last night and thought it was good. I'm new to Photography so the only name that I'd heard of before was David Bailey. It was a crazy to see how many people he had helping him and to be honest if I had that help and equipment I could get some of them shots quite easy myself ;)
 
It's probably not gonna be on BBC iPlayer until the last showing on the TV.

I watched it and realy enjoyed the show. Have to say though he was setting himself up a pretty tough act to follow with some of the images.

Rankin was a pretty cool guy as well, I haven't really heard any of his banter before but he seemed to know his onions. Well done him.
 
ifotou said:
Thought that myself... and actually was he responsible, the Cecil beaton one - it was his assistant that fired the shutter for the the first of the 2 shots
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I was thinking about this again tonight as I'm running through some ideas for college.

Rankins assistants were doing a LOT for him, more than I thought assistants would do but does it have to be the photgrapher that presses the button for the shot to be theirs and when does it become a collaborative or plain old someone elses work?

If the photographer sets up the camera and lights to how they want it can someone else press the button and wind the film on and the photo still belong to the photographer?
 
Kev M said:
If the photographer sets up the camera and lights to how they want it can someone else press the button and wind the film on and the photo still belong to the photographer?
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Yes, its more about the vision created, the "photographer" directs the scene in the same way Spielberg directs a film.
You couldn't say Jaws wasn't created by him because he didn't point and roll the camera.
The tog supposedly knows what the camera will record, actually who presses the shutter is a minor detail.
It is all a bit up your own arse though, I gotta say.
 
don't worry there will be no Rankin style 'crew' where I'm going. I'll be lucky if I can bribe the wife wit some chocolate to help me. Not sure if 'press the button, wind the handle' might be a bit technical for her though;)
 
if he is simply 'directing' and neither setting up nor firing the shutter, does he no longer stay a photographer and instead become an art director?
 
Pretty much..still gets the credit for the photo though

I've spent the last half hour trying to remember/find a vid/guy's name who shot a snowy scene on the corner of some street in the US.
I think he shot large format, him and his crew we're perched on staging with a plastic sheet over them all day, waiting for the right light, they shut the street, he had peeps in a lit cafe window, a bloke walking out of a corner shop smoking a cigar and a car turning into a junction, all in his employ, cued to do their thing just at the right time.
He spent all his time on 2 way radio, directing the scene, somebody else pressed the shutter.

he's famous as hell, and so is the photo, Worlds most contrived photo probably, my brains are broked...:bang:
 
joxby, his name is Gregory Crewdson and you can see that particular setup in the sixth episode of The Genius of Photography.
 
Just watched it, and loved it. It has really inspired me to try something different. Did anyone see this faux pas? :lol:

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You can watch this on youtube, someone has uploaded it in 6 or 7 parts, not the best quality but not too shabby :)

I loved it but thought the originals still stood out as the best.
 
I really enjoyed this too, in fact I've "saved" it on the Sky box for further reference.

I'm looking to do a series of B&W shots to "mimic" the photographs of actors of the 40's & 50's during the spring and this was just the sort of inspiration I need.

Steve
 
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