Who uses a digital compact camera?

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boliston said:
I would also not want to lug around 3 bodies and 4 lenses! :eek:

Have you tried just carrying a single body and a single lens instead?

Hmmm yea i started with one body but it grew to 3, each with a different lens so i didnt have to waste time changing lenses. Stupid idea. Thats why i love the compact though. Its got the whole range of focal lengths. Cant see me going back to a DSLR now.
 
So thats a 1.5kg, £800+(?) lens on a 800g, £800 body

And whilst I like the whole nifty fifty thing, I also it's a restrictive focal length and not something to "capture the moment" with. And whilst it may not weigh a great deal, I still can't realitically slip it into a suit or coat pocket.

I take your point about the 50 being restrictive compared to the zoom a compact has, but I still think my 18-200 is easy to carry around.

To be honest I guess it's down to personal preference. I'm never ever in a situation where I want to just slip it into my pocket, I have a small camera bag and if I think there will be any chance to take a photo, I'll carry it with me, I don't even notice it. Any other times, I don't particularly care about "capturing the moment", but that's just me.
 
I'm never ever in a situation where I want to just slip it into my pocket, I have a small camera bag and if I think there will be any chance to take a photo, I'll carry it with me, I don't even notice it.

Since you've only had your DSLR 6 months, I'll put it out there that you're still in the honeymoon period, still marvelling at the awesome step up from a compact. I remember it myself.

Any other times, I don't particularly care about "capturing the moment", but that's just me.

If that's true, then I can't help but feel like you're missing out on a lot of the fun points of photography. The candid shots at a crowded family dinner table that you'll miss because you've had to reach into your bag to pull the camera out. The photo of a drunken mate being whipped by a lapdancer on his stag do. Or just enjoy being somewhere and not always having half a mind on the camera. Eventually it's going to become a chore.

It's all good and well saying you're a perfectionist, but some of the best shots you'll ever see or take won't be the perfect shot
 
How does a basic 1000d with a kit lens stack up against a decent /good compact and in particular, a g12. Mainly used for product photography, random and family shots, not serious hobby/enthusiast use or anything too intense
 
Might be right there, but I've only been using a dslr for about 6 months so I'm hardly a snob :)

Having said that, I'm a perfectionist and I doubt any compact can compare to the pin sharpness of my 300 f4 (forget the fact that it's a 300mm, as I'm sure there are smaller lenses with the same quality or better). With that in mind, I personally think the size and weight difference between a compact and a mid range dslr with say 50mm is negligible.

Are you being serious about the size and weight issue Steve? Or have you never seen a Canon S95 that will easily fit into your trouser pocket? I couldn't even put my 50mm lens in there comfortably, let alone a DSLR body.
 
A 550D and 50mm f1.8 has overall dimensions of 129 x 97 x 103mm whereas the S95 is 100 x 58 x 30mm.

Also the 550D and 50mm f1.8 weighs 660g whereas an S95 weighs 193g.

So the size and weight difference is far from negligible!
 
I said personally ;) to me it makes no difference if its a compact or a dslr + lens (not including massive 300mm f2.8s etc ) since my pocket or a small camera bag are just as portable as each other for me personally.

By the way my name isn't steve ;)
 
Sorry Chris :bang:
 
My film camera and 28mm lens is so light and compact that I don't feel the need to carry a "compact" around anymore. Compared to the 1Ds it's featherweight, so it's what I take when I want to travel light and capture street shots or go on an urbex and want to take as little as possible.
 
I use a Fuji F200 when I can't be bothered lugging the DSLR, it gives reasonable results and fits easily in my pocket.
 
Some of the modern, high end compacts produce images every bit as good as a pro spec DSLR. Quite a few full time pros will have a good compact for some situations.

I use two compacts, because I upgraded the old Canon S70 (shoots RAW) when the G10 came out and I felt I could make use of the new lens coverage (28mm - 140mm equivalent) plus the build quality was going to help it survive in the rough and tumble world it gets used for. Both of these cameras have a dive housing, for waterproffing them and so I can get underwater shots. I need the RAW shooting capability though, otherwise some of the others are just as good.

The S70 still gets used for doing work - I am happy to give it to someone else to use on a day. I use the G10, it is faster to use too, with much less shutter lag. I use it for a regular feature slot I do in a couple of magazines where the D3 and kit is too much in addition to what else I have ot take and carry.

Don't dismiss a compact for what it can do. Itis slower to use, granted, but the images are every bit as good as high end cameras. The G10 produces RAW converted jpegs at between 10MB and 15Mb apiece - the same file size as the D3.:thumbs:

There was a chap in the USA who did a trial between his Hasselblad and the G10. He shoots fine art landscapes for a living. He set up the tripod with the 'Bled on it and took a shot. He then rested the G10 on the top of the ' medium format camera and repeated the shot with the compact. Back in the studio he processed the pictures with whayever needed doing, this was a comparison of what was possible with the camera. Then he printed the result to 24"x20", marked on the back A and B.....invited a load of his customers and industry flks round for a coffee and asked them to vote which print they PREFERRED. The result was about 50/50 - which goes to show the compact DOES produce the results of a top end camera - the Canon G10 then was around $500, the Hasselbald that he used was nearly $25,000 - but the results were comparable.

A D5000 is not a Hasselbald, however good it might be. Enjoy it, but don't think it is way above a good compact, because it is only about the same.

Oh! and the Canon G11 is supposed ot be better than the G12. I don't know why, but it is what I have heard from various quarters, might be something to do with the swivel screen and how it survives. I forget, but it made my mind up not to bother changing the G10.
 
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....Don't dismiss a compact for what it can do. Itis slower to use, granted, but the images are every bit as good as high end cameras. The G10 produces RAW converted jpegs at between 10MB and 15Mb apiece - the same file size as the D3.:thumbs:...

Just because it produces the same file size don't fool yourself into thinking it'll be the same as a DSLR image. It won't.

....A D5000 is not a Hasselbald, however good it might be. Enjoy it, but don't think it is way above a good compact, because it is only about the same....

A D500 (or any DSLR like the D500) will sit above most compacts in terms of IQ

....Oh! and the Canon G11 is supposed ot be better than the G12. I don't know why, but it is what I have heard from various quarters, might be something to do with the swivel screen and how it survives. I forget, but it made my mind up not to bother changing the G10.

Have heard this. Have actually heard the G10 is the best of the three. This and the P6000 from Nikon always tempted me as being good back-up cameras when I was trekking around and not wanting to take to many extras. It'd probably get hardly any use but as something to fall back on in an emergency, it would help, especially because of the hotshoe and the electronic shutter (for strobist work).


Maybe some of the high-end compacts do produce good results but they're so limited in terms of sensor size and lack of additional glass that they can't ever be seen as a direct replacement for a DSLR, unless the user is fine with those fixed parameters to work with. For general snapping (holidays for example) a compact will probably do fine and handle most 'snapshot' situations of the kids in the pool, the missus on the beach, you in the bar etc.... and okay, there are hacks around that work for macro (etc) but they're not perfect and totally designed fir the jib. Mind you, these Olympus PENs and what have you (EVIL - is that what they're called?) seem a good bridge because of the small, feature-packed body but with lens options that wil expand in size over time.
 
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