Who is the Father/Inventor of Photogaphy?

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Hello all, and happy new year!

Im doing an essay for uni of who i consider to be the father/inventor of photography, and as part of my research i want to collect some data on other people and who they think is the father or inventor of photography.

So if you would be so kind as to put the name of who you think is the father or inventor of photography is i would be very greatful.

Thanks all
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From what I can remember there isn't just one "father" of photography, there are a few early pioneers who were working around the same sort of time. I'm not 100% sure though.

Get on youtube and have a look for the program "Genius of Photography" - the early episodes had some information on the pioneers I think. Something tells me a french guy is pretty much considered the "father" but I couldn't tell you his name, sorry. Please post what you find out as I for one am interested.
 
errrm, nope. I think you will find that it's kind fo limited to those two. Daguerre was a tad hard done by because by all accounts he did come up with it first (the two were working on the same principle) but Fox Talbot got his done first so is credited with the invention.
 
errrm, nope. I think you will find that it's kind fo limited to those two. Daguerre was a tad hard done by because by all accounts he did come up with it first (the two were working on the same principle) but Fox Talbot got his done first so is credited with the invention.

Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm just going on vague memories from a trip to the Photography Museum in Bradford, and although they couldn't be considered the "fathers" of photography, but were there not several people who invented/developed different methods of taking "photographs"?
 
Joseph Nicephore Niepce made the first photographic image with a camera obscura whilst Daguerre was still experimenting.
 
As people tell me: "Do your own homework!"

But seriously, watch "Genius of Photography". It's perfect.

Im not asking you to do my homework, im just simply trying to gather information of who people think is the inventor or father.

so i can say for example

25 people thinks Talbot should recive the credit
19 think Daguerre and so on,

just for data and research.
 
Turin Shroud? POSSIBLY the earliest surviving photographic image.

Might also be worth looking at Wikipedia to see what it says there.
 
I think it all depends on what you define as photography

For me it has to be Fox Talbot, he invented the negative from which multiple positives could be produced and his methods allowed photography to spread to the masses and ultimately what became what we have today. The french men both came up with methods of capturing an image but they couldn't be repoduced.

However, you could argue that without the french, Fox Talbot wouldn't have been spured on to develop his early experiments in to what he ultimately came up with and on that basis can he alone be called the father.

You could even argue that although these were the primordeal soup and it was Kodak and the Box Brownie that fathered photography by allowing the common man access to the medium.
 
Fox talbot. If you can get along to Lechlade then they have a really good museum dedicated to him/the photographic process

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/mai...village/w-lacockabbeyvillage-talbotmuseum.htm

The town of Lacock (I know that's where you meant ;) ), the abbey and museum are all worth a look if you're in that neck of the woods.

It's less than 5 miles from me and it took me more than 6 years to make the (no) effort to go and take a look. If you do go in the winter there is a little pub on the other side of Lacock, all of 300 feet away, with great roaring fire and good ale. :thumbs:
 
:D

so do we credit that to the Holy Trinity, or some anonymous medieval monk? :suspect:

Gotta leave Pricer some work to do! IIRC, Lenny da V may have had summat to do with it.
 
Whoops - slight slip there.

We've NT membership but it took me a while to make the trip - and it's well worth it too.
 
The first recorded photographic image was produced by the Frenchman Nicephore Neipce. He used a plate coated in Bitumen. Light harden parts of the bitumen and the non harden parts could be "washed" away.

In his later life Neipce collaborated with Daguerre, and Daguerre, developed his Daguerreotype process after Neipce's death. This process involved coating a silver halide onto a mirror. It's advantage was it gave exposures short enough to photograph people. Neipce's process required hours of exposure. However Daguerreotypes weren't without dangers, as development required exposure to Mercury Vapour. ( NO Health and Saftey in the 1860's)

In an major gesture to the world, the French government bought Daguerre's patent and offered free to the world . ( Possibly the worlds first example of Feeware?)

However it was William Fox Talbot who developed the photographic process we have today. A negative, used to make a positive and the ability to make many of them.

So I suppose I have to say that Niepce was the Father of Photography, as he recorded the first image, but all three of them developed the art and science we use today.

Nice one guys
 
camera obscura

The earliest mention of this type of device was by the Chinese philosopher Mo-Ti (5th century BC). He formally recorded the creation of an inverted image formed by light rays passing through a pinhole into a darkened room. He called this darkened room a "collecting place" or the "locked treasure room."

Aristotle (384-322 BC) understood the optical principle of the camera obscura. He viewed the crescent shape of a partially eclipsed sun projected on the ground through the holes in a sieve, and the gaps between leaves of a plane tree.

The Islamic scholar and scientist Alhazen (Abu Ali al-Hasan Ibn al-Haitham) (c.965 - 1039) gave a full account of the principle including experiments with five lanterns outside a room with a small hole.

In 1490 Leonardo Da Vinci gave two clear descriptions of the camera obscura in his notebooks. Many of the first camera obscuras were large rooms like that illustrated by the Dutch scientist Reinerus Gemma-Frisius in 1544 for use in observing a solar eclipse.

The image quality was improved with the addition of a convex lens into the aperture in the 16th century and the later addition of a mirror to reflect the image down onto a viewing surface. Giovanni Battista Della Porta in his 1558 book Magiae Naturalis recommended the use of this device as an aid for drawing for artists.

The term "camera obscura" was first used by the German astronomer Johannes Kepler in the early 17th century. He used it for astronomical applications and had a portable tent camera for surveying in Upper Austria.

The development of the camera obscura took two tracks. One of these led to the portable box device that was a drawing tool. In the 17th and 18th century many artists were aided by the use of the camera obscura. Jan Vermeer, Canaletto, Guardi, and Paul Sandby are representative of this group. By the beginning of the 19th century the camera obscura was ready with little or no modification to accept a sheet of light sensitive material to become the photographic camera. Portable and box camera obscuras from our collection are shown on another page on this site.

The other track became the camera obscura room, a combination of education and entertainment. In the 19th century, with improved lenses that could cast larger and sharper images, the camera obscura flourished at the seaside and in areas of scenic beauty. There are several pages that features images of camera obscura rooms such as this page on US park camera obscuras from our collection. Today the camera obscura is enjoying a revival of interest. Older camera obscuras are celebrated as cultural and historic treasures and new camera obscuras are being built around the world.
 
Who first recorded an image? Quite a few people, centuries ago, made crude contact prints of leaves and stuff, like Thomas Wedgwood (son of potter).

Who invented the camera? Camera obsura goes back to the dawn of time; camera with a lens? Dunno.

Who made the first reproducible image? Fox Talbot's process created a negative that could be printed.

Who first put them all together to create 'modern' photography? I'd give that to Fox Talbot.

Then again there's the guy who invented the first digital sensor. Steve Sasson (working for Kodak?) in 1975. Doesn't video pre-date that though?
 
All of the above are correct - but for me, the real 'father' of Modern Photography as we know it - that is bringing it to the reach of the ordinary man instead of being the preserve of wealthy enthusiasts was:

George Eastman.
Founder of Eastman Kodak.

As Mr Crow points out - camera obscura were around for many, many years and were used by some of the great masters in preparing the 'cartoons' for their portrait work (see TV Docco and book by David Hockney on the subject).
 
A lot of interesting answers. I knew some of them, I'd forgotten a few more, and the rest are news to me! Thanks to everyone who posted these.

I suppose it depends what you mean by photography. The classic definition is drawing with light, which is a starting point, but may not meet your needs.

The camera obscura has an ancient history and, sort of, meets the definition, but it's debatable whether it's really a form of photography as we know it. The image is transient and can only be seen while the apparatus is operating. It's a bit like using a camera with live view, but without the ability to capture the image permanently.

Leonardo Da Vinci may have been the first person to find a way of capturing the image from a camera obscura, and he may have used this to produce the Turin Shroud. Experiments show that it is possible, and quite feasible, but that's still some way from proving that he actually did this. I definitely put him on the list though, and he fascinates me.

Joseph Nicephore Niepce and Louis Daguerre collaborated, and were the first people to capture a photographic image, in the sense that we know it, if we don't include Da Vinci, so they deserve to be high on the list.

Henry Fox Talbot took this a lot further, and has a strong claim. George Eastman invented roll film, which was a major step forward, allowing the development of far more practical cameras which remained essentially unchanged until digital photography was developed.

I don't know if we can say that any particular person actually invented photography. It seems to have been an evolutionary process, involving a number of people, who may have also drawn on research and experiments carried out by others, now lost to us. Good luck with your essay!
 
With most inventions there is controversy about what the person credited with it actually did. Basically, they made it work properly and gave it a popular application. Like Jackson's moonwalk :D

In photography, the pioneers were the first to bring various existing elements together in a new permutation, refined them, and so produced something substantially different. In that sense, I think there is strong evidence that joint credit should go to Niepce, Daguerre and Talbot as we know there was collaboration between them or at least awareness of what the others were up to. It is surely no coincidence that in all history they stumbled across pretty much the same idea at more or less the same time.
 
Define what you think is photography for the purposes of your essay, and there aren't many answers.
Shouldn't you be posting a link with / instead of that text? Or at least a credit.

damn right constable sir!!

here it is...

the camera obscura information below is not from me but from wikipedia to whom i acknowledge and give this link for the unabridged excerpt i used
apologies to all concerned and to those unconcerned

wikipedia link for camera obscura

The earliest mention of this type of device was by the Chinese philosopher Mo-Ti (5th century BC). He formally recorded the creation of an inverted image formed by light rays passing through a pinhole into a darkened room. He called this darkened room a "collecting place" or the "locked treasure room."

Aristotle (384-322 BC) understood the optical principle of the camera obscura. He viewed the crescent shape of a partially eclipsed sun projected on the ground through the holes in a sieve, and the gaps between leaves of a plane tree.

The Islamic scholar and scientist Alhazen (Abu Ali al-Hasan Ibn al-Haitham) (c.965 - 1039) gave a full account of the principle including experiments with five lanterns outside a room with a small hole.

In 1490 Leonardo Da Vinci gave two clear descriptions of the camera obscura in his notebooks. Many of the first camera obscuras were large rooms like that illustrated by the Dutch scientist Reinerus Gemma-Frisius in 1544 for use in observing a solar eclipse.

The image quality was improved with the addition of a convex lens into the aperture in the 16th century and the later addition of a mirror to reflect the image down onto a viewing surface. Giovanni Battista Della Porta in his 1558 book Magiae Naturalis recommended the use of this device as an aid for drawing for artists.

The term "camera obscura" was first used by the German astronomer Johannes Kepler in the early 17th century. He used it for astronomical applications and had a portable tent camera for surveying in Upper Austria.

The development of the camera obscura took two tracks. One of these led to the portable box device that was a drawing tool. In the 17th and 18th century many artists were aided by the use of the camera obscura. Jan Vermeer, Canaletto, Guardi, and Paul Sandby are representative of this group. By the beginning of the 19th century the camera obscura was ready with little or no modification to accept a sheet of light sensitive material to become the photographic camera. Portable and box camera obscuras from our collection are shown on another page on this site.

The other track became the camera obscura room, a combination of education and entertainment. In the 19th century, with improved lenses that could cast larger and sharper images, the camera obscura flourished at the seaside and in areas of scenic beauty. There are several pages that features images of camera obscura rooms such as this page on US park camera obscuras from our collection. Today the camera obscura is enjoying a revival of interest. Older camera obscuras are celebrated as cultural and historic treasures and new camera obscuras are being built around the world.


i know my place:cool:
 
Im not asking you to do my homework, im just simply trying to gather information of who people think is the inventor or father.

so i can say for example

25 people thinks Talbot should recive the credit
19 think Daguerre and so on,

just for data and research.

That's what I say when I ask people for their opinions, but they still just say, "Go to the library! Do your own homework!"
 
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