Who ate all the pies!!

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Only 15 years old :eek:

She weighs 33 Stone. :eek:
 
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Over 4000 posts in less than a year and you don't know the difference between ways and weighs. Poor show :p
 
I saw something like this a while ago (on a slightly larger scale) it was an American man and he was one of the fattest people on the earth. His calorie intake was so high that to stay at his current weight he would have to consume (calorie wise) 10 large pizzas a day. This means that he would technically lose weight if he ate a mere 9 large pizzas!

I would have thought death is enough motivation to at least cut down a bit. Hey ho.
 
I am sure its not that easy Marcel, but to that extent? Surely after the 4th or 5th chocolate bar, she must think, "Hmmm, maybe thats enough"?

She really isnt helping herself here, I do sympathise with whats shes been through, but there must be other ways, not buying so much crap when they go shopping for example.

On another point, who is paying for this trip to the US for her?
 
What a shame, poor girl, i see what some mean, thats an awful amount of food she puts in.

some people just cant lose it though.

My thyroid is shot at, I will be on thyroxine for the rest of my life. I really struggle to keep awake let alone lose weight, im about 5 stone over what i should be.:bang:
 
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Well her parents certainly have alot to answer for, that's for definite.
My point though, is that to an outsider, it may just look like she enjoys food and eats too much.

But for many people at her size, depression, mental state, self worth and a lack of confidence play a huge part.
It's all well and good saying she must think "Hmm maybe thats enough", but like any addiction, rational thought does not end up with a logical and rational behaviour.
Self control isn't always that easy, especially if you're so low you think "Well what's the point?".

Ask a heroin addict if he knows how dangerous the drug is.
Then ask him while he has the needle in his arm, if he wouldn't be better putting the needle down and just 'packing it in'.

Sure her environment will be playing a big part in it, but it really isn't as easy as just 'stopping'.
She needs proper counselling, therapy, and education too, all built into a support system around her to get her back to a happy and acceptable state.

I know she is the ultimate creator of her own destiny, but sometimes people DO need help for one reason or another, and can't be blamed for the problems they face.

Maybe I'm so defensive because I can understand how she may have gotten that big.
I'm not that big myself, but I can see how it's entirely possible.
 
Marcel said:
Yes because for some people it's just *that* easy.
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It depend's how much they want it!

7 months ago I weighed 25st 13lbs after the Doctor told me I'd be lucky to reach 60 (I'm 49) I started a diet on New Years Eve. Today I weigh 15st 1lb.

It has not been easy, I won't pretend it has, but it has opened up my life for me. I still have about 2.5 stone to go and it is if anything getting harder to lose now, BUT if you want it enough it can be done. The really hard part will be keeping it off!

December 30th 2007:

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Today about 15 minutes ago:

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Whilst I sympathise entirely and don't want to make too light of the poor girls situation... Is sending her to America entirely the right thing to do? After all, the Italians lent Michelangelo's 'David' to a MacDonalds sponsored museum in America... and look at what happened!

Michelangelo's David before being loaned to the American museum:

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Michelangelo's David after the two year loan and before being returned to Italy:

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Flashy
 
EdBray said:
It depend's how much they want it!

7 months ago I weighed 25st 13lbs after the Doctor told me I'd be lucky to reach 60 (I'm 49) I started a diet on New Years Eve. Today I weigh 15st 1lb.

It has not been easy, I won't pretend it has, but it has opened up my life for me. I still have about 2.5 stone to go and it is if anything getting harder to lose now, BUT if you want it enough it can be done. The really hard part will be keeping it off!

December 30th 2007:

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Today about 15 minutes ago:

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FAIR PLAY to you sir.
You must have been on quite a journey.....

(Btw, big LOL @ Flashman!!!!!)
 
Oh dear.

Betty said:
Poor girl? She should stop stuffing her face then!!!!
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How could you be so bloody ignorant? I can not believe someone who went ballistic over someone accidentally freezing an insect would be so heartless towards another human being.

Betty said:
I am sure its not that easy Marcel, but to that extent? Surely after the 4th or 5th chocolate bar, she must think, "Hmmm, maybe that's enough"?

She really isn't helping herself here, I do sympathise with whats shes been through, but there must be other ways, not buying so much crap when they go shopping for example.

On another point, who is paying for this trip to the US for her?
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Marcel answered you in a very eloquent way. I however am furious with your previous comment, so I may not be quite so polite. It's like this, its people with an attitude like yours that make people like this young girl, and me get worse and not have the strength to get better. I don't want to leave the house most of the time because of peoples attitude towards the way I look. Which in turn leads to a vicious circle of lack of exercise = even more weight gain. There are people who are lazy, and they put on weight, sometimes a lot of weight. Then there are people who have an illness that eventually makes them this way(this is me btw). Would you (Betty or anyone else) be so flipping nasty if you saw a picture of Britain's skinniest (I hate that word, along with the word fat) teen? I highly doubt it. Maybe you need to educate yourself (and anyone else who has the same attitude) more about obesity, before you cast your opinion.

EdBray said:
It depend's how much they want it!

7 months ago I weighed 25st 13lbs after the Doctor told me I'd be lucky to reach 60 (I'm 49) I started a diet on New Years Eve. Today I weigh 15st 1lb.

It has not been easy, I won't pretend it has, but it has opened up my life for me. I still have about 2.5 stone to go and it is if anything getting harder to lose now, BUT if you want it enough it can be done. The really hard part will be keeping it off!
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:clap: Good for you, and I really really mean that. But your opening statement isn't true for everyone. I hope you don't turn into a fat hater because you 'did it'. I want it with my whole heart, I cry most days because I can't do it, and I long for children, that I can't have right now because of it. Wanting it and achieving it are two very different things.


Signed... 38st Jo xx
 
Jo said:
How could you be so bloody ignorant? I can not believe someone who went ballistic over someone accidentally freezing an insect would be so heartless towards another human being.
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Because that was an accident. What this girl is doing however, is her own fault. At least 80% her fault anyways. I did also agree with some of Marcels points. To back up my point, this is quoted from the link...

Georgia has taken a packed lunch since she was banned from the canteen this year. She said: “I was eating sausage rolls, pasties and chips. Then a teacher said I wasn’t welcome any more.

“I still get friends to sneak things out for me though.”

If she REALLY wants to do something about it, she wouldnt get her friends sneaking food out for her. Yes I agree you cant stop cold turkey, but you have to bloody well start somewhere.

I have nothing against overweight people, some of my closest and dearest friends are overweight. I dont even know you personally Jo, but if I was to meet you, I would never say "My god! You need to lose weight!" I respect the people that have the balls to do something about it, dont tell me its impossible.

Furthermore, if she didnt want to draw attention to herself, what the hell is she doing in The Sun?!?!
 
Betty said:
Because that was an accident. What this girl is doing however, is her own fault. At least 80% her fault anyways. I did also agree with some of Marcels points. To back up my point, this is quoted from the link...

Georgia has taken a packed lunch since she was banned from the canteen this year. She said: “I was eating sausage rolls, pasties and chips. Then a teacher said I wasn’t welcome any more.

“I still get friends to sneak things out for me though.”

If she REALLY wants to do something about it, she wouldn't get her friends sneaking food out for her. Yes I agree you cant stop cold turkey, but you have to bloody well start somewhere.

I have nothing against overweight people, some of my closest and dearest friends are overweight. I don't even know you personally Jo, but if I was to meet you, I would never say "My god! You need to lose weight!" I respect the people that have the balls to do something about it, don't tell me its impossible.

Furthermore, if she didn't want to draw attention to herself, what the hell is she doing in The Sun?!?!
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You are still being ignorant Betty, and only reading what you want to read.

“The bullying at school was really bad. I would get called ‘fatty’ and ‘tub of lard’.


“I used to go home and cry in my room. It made me turn to food. I would secretly eat cakes and slice after slice of bread.”
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When you are addicted to something albeit food, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, NOT eating etc etc... it's an illness. Don't be so naive. When things get rough (or you are bullied, see above quote from the article) you turn to what makes you feel better ... whatever you're addicted to.

If blame lies anywhere, it is with her parents. They should have taught her better as a younger girl, and stopped her dependence on food. Make her realise there are other things you can do to make yourself feel better when things are tough. This is a young girl remember, not an adult fully aware of what she is doing.

Oh and your logic about going ballistic on someone for accidentally freezing an insect doesn't make sense.

It must be lovely to live in La La land.
 
Just imagine being a 15 year old girl in this image obsessed shallow petty world we live in, where looks are everything.

Have you ever been so low and feel so miserable you just want to hide away from the rest of the world? Imagine that as a 15 yr old girl who has absolutely zero self esteem or confidence.
She then turns to the one thing she knows...food. It makes her feel better. Superficially of course, but it does make her feel better for a short while.
Unfortunately this becomes a problem as it makers her bigger, exacerbates her problem, so she gets teased more. She then turns to food, and so on and so forth.

It's not about wanting to do something about it, it's about being unable to. Sure some people just like their food, put on some weight, and then think "Actually I want to do something about it", and go on and lose it. Fair play to them, especially if they find it hard.
But just because some people can do it, doesnt mean that everyone can.

By that thinking, it must mean that all the crack addicts in the world actually enjoy taking the drug because if they *really* wanted to get off it, they would, wouldn't they?

From the non addict side, it can be quite hard to understand, as it really is only food. It's something we need to stay alive, yet this is a case of too much of it.
We don't *need* to take a little bit of cocaine or heroin every day.

The same for alchohol. It's why alchoholics are just that. They are dependent on their drug, as a coping mechanis, because they cannot cope without it.
 
Marcel said:
Just imagine being a 15 year old girl in this image obsessed shallow petty world we live in, where looks are everything.

Have you ever been so low and feel so miserable you just want to hide away from the rest of the world? Imagine that as a 15 yr old girl who has absolutely zero self esteem or confidence.
She then turns to the one thing she knows...food. It makes her feel better. Superficially of course, but it does make her feel better for a short while.
Unfortunately this becomes a problem as it makers her bigger, exacerbates her problem, so she gets teased more. She then turns to food, and so on and so forth.

It's not about wanting to do something about it, it's about being unable to. Sure some people just like their food, put on some weight, and then think "Actually I want to do something about it", and go on and lose it. Fair play to them, especially if they find it hard.
But just because some people can do it, doesnt mean that everyone can.

By that thinking, it must mean that all the crack addicts in the world actually enjoy taking the drug because if they *really* wanted to get off it, they would, wouldn't they?

From the non addict side, it can be quite hard to understand, as it really is only food. It's something we need to stay alive, yet this is a case of too much of it.
We don't *need* to take a little bit of cocaine or heroin every day.

The same for alchohol. It's why alchoholics are just that. They are dependent on their drug, as a coping mechanis, because they cannot cope without it.
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Well said!!
I think it would have been better had Matt had a bit tact and not posted this story, especially with the caption "who ate all the pies" I really feel sorry for the girl.
 
well I have to agree with Marcel as I'm sure most would. Its easy to judge when youve not been in that "body".

I had a problem with weight in my late teens...not really that much overweight ....just crept up to a size 16 which I could hide pretty well being tall but just enough I can tell you to feel crap and feel a social outcast. Beach holidays? forget it!! So yeh...I can sympathesize with those trapped in a fat bod and well done to those that overcome an eating disorder and lose the excess.

I am quite happy with myself now, lost the weight, changed my lifestyle and got down to a comfortable 10/12 by my 20's which I have maintained since. Could probably be an 8/10 but I love grub so a bit of flab doesnt hurt!!

oh and Ed...well done!!
 
Even the tat looks happier Ed, well done m8. :)
 
From an outsiders point of view it is so easy to say things like "who ate all the pies" but people do need to understand that this is a mental condition.

At the moment it is no good trying to condition the body as the mind has not been conditioned yet. An association needs to be made with 'bad' food and 'don't eat' that is strong enough to actually stop the girl eating 'badly.'

I have had 20 years of experience with certain mental conditions. People that self harm don't do it because they enjoy it. They do it because at the time the pain blocks out what ever they are thinking about. In this case the food gives a release, which lasts alot less than the effects.

I have never been in the position of being overweight. In fact i was in the opposite position of being very thin. So i threw myself in to the gym to build muscle and get a more muscular physic. There were times that i was on the verge of obsession with my body shape and working out.

As someone has said before a proper support network needs to be set up. And i also hope someone educates the parents at the same time.

Oh and Ed. Well done. I can imagine that you feel reborn!
 
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I always thought loosing weight was easy, I was pretty thin, trained, got bigger, trained, ate, trained and was as heavy and as strong as I had ever been in my life when I had an accident a work.

The upshot was 4 1/2months immobile and daft enough to carry on "enjoying" my food, I put on a just a few stones but was shocked at the willpower and determination it took to shift it.

I now have sympathy for anyone who struggles to loose weight and huge respect for people like Ed who have shifted real weight.

Water was my best friend, started by not eating after teatime and just went form there being honest with myself and weighing myself at the same time and day once a week.

I dont mind overweight and honest, its the "i eat nothing and still put on weight" thing that ****es me off, Its a pretty simple equation at the end of the day.
 
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Hey Matt? have you not read through all the posts on your thread? perhaps you should eh?
 
I struggle to keep my weight on,

So if she wants to give me , she's welcome

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A pound or two that is :lol:

everyone goes on about folks need to lose weight, nothing in the new about people like myself who need to add weight eat what ever I like been the same all my life guess I have the opposite gene that bigger people have

Or I know when Im full
 
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i used to be thin i hate being fat but i went on a diet ate only salad and walked more, and put a stone on lol.
 
dont eat lettuce our tortoise only eats that and fruit and the occasional snail and shes gone from 1-05 oz to 3lb 4oz in 10 years and its walkin round all day and night
 
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How has she got to this weight before action has been taken. If this is a medical condition she and her parents may not be to blame, but if it's just from over eating then her parents, the local authorities and the NHS have a lot to answer for.

Her mother should have stopped her eating so much, that maybe hard with your own daughter, but who does the shopping , not the girl she can't walk to the shops.

IF and it's a big if, her mother was unable/unwilling to do something the girl should have gone it to care for a short time to help.

The NHS has ruled that the size 38 teenager is too young for gastric band surgery, slimming pills or gym membership. Now that is just B*****ks . The is an 18 year old girl at our works who has just had gastric band surgery, the weight is very slowly coming off but her self confidence has shot up.
 
I totally agree with Marcel :thumbs:

I think being very overweight or an alcoholic can be a sign of underlying problems.
 
mother was overweight too,

good excuse its in the genes

yeh right
didnt your mum tell you to chew your food,

quicker eaters dont notice their full,( they gulped it down) as quick as slow eaters do
 
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If you look at the slide show of photos she has always been a big girl, even as a baby, so genes may play some part, and she would have been big before the bullying.




Also is it really possible to lose 20 stone in 6 months, that sound a lot and fast to me ?
 
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Poor Kid - I look at my 14 and 16 year olds and think 'but for the grace of god' and all that. All you have to do is think back to being that age, remember how much pressure life felt like it was. Yes, with hindsight you know the pressures of teenagerhood were nothing compared to being an adult with kids of your own, but at such a tender age everything can feel like hell. Look at the kids that commit suicide because of bullying or other pressures....and of course the opposite end of the scale, teenage anorexia. We only have ourselves to blame, we are the ones that have allowed such an image conscious society to develop that increases these pressure. I hope she gets the help she needs and more then that I hope she uses it.
 
I have just read more very unkind posts from the OP, lets hope he never gets struck by depression or glandular problems to name a few conditions that can lead to being overweight. :nono:
I don't think he is doing himself any favours in the popularity rankings on this forum.:nono:
 
Galaxy66 said:
I have just read more very unkind posts from the OP, lets hope he never gets struck by depression or glandular problems to name a few conditions that can lead to being overweight. :nono:
I don't think he is doing himself any favours in the popularity rankings on this forum.:nono:
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Hi Galaxy, he has certainly gone down in my estimation, shame because i thought he was a nice kid! very imature to post such statements, lots of people like me have problems, mine is thyroid but I dont wear a badge to let folk know!
 
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