Which FB would you give for ebay seller...

Which feedback should/would you give the seller...

  • positive

    Votes: 29 96.7%

  • neutral

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • negative

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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I purchased a Nikon TC-14E from ebay which came with a soft leather case but no front or rear caps..

All that was stated in the description/listing was just this:"Nikon AF-1 Teleconverter accessorie which gives a 1.4x focal lenght addition to the lenses being used."

I did ask before buying regarding the usual stuff we all ask -

My question -Can you give some more details on this lens please....
i.e condition - scratches/blemishes, age, is it boxed with manual/instructions... The usual crap really that we all seem to ask/want to know.

their reply - There are no blemishes on the Nikon teleconverter. I have no instructions for the article.It just bayonet fits between lens and camera body. It comes in it's own soft leather type pouch.


So, now would you leave positive, neutral or negative feedback... :shrug:

I'm looking at neutral due to the fact that there's no caps & nothing was stated that there wasn't any

Negative is abit much as there is nowt wrong with it - condition etc & Positive is well a just a "no go" really..

They have been on ebay since 2003 & have only a score of 1... :thinking: so what went on over a year ago is anyones guess really :shrug:

Postage was £2 (2nd class recorded) & they did dispatch it quite quickly..

So in short what would you give.... Out of curiousity really..

I have sourced a BF-3A cap now & have plenty of rear caps
 
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If it's in good condition, works, the seller communicated well and posted it quickly why would you leave anything other than positive?

You can't leave neutral feedback because the seller didn't supply something that wasn't mentioned in the auction.
 
He didnt supply the caps - he just put the TC in its case & that was it... Surely if you brought a lens or TC, that you would expect it to come with the caps as standard... Box, manual or case isn't really that important - just packaging etc, but caps - for protection when not using....

Do you store any of your camera's or lenses without any caps??? I very much doubt it..
 
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Leave Positive if your generaly happy and the price was okay.

Look on ebay for some caps, I got some Canon ones for £2.49 posted from HK.

Whilst it doesn't mention the caps I would have expected them, contact the seller they may still have them.
 
Hi,
I understand what you say about storing without caps, but.

I sell allsorts on eBay & always list the item exactly as it will be posted.

Twice I have had negative feedback & twice I have had people claim an item never arrived.
Both times it was overseas, I will never post outside the UK now:thumbsdown:
But I have had loads of problems since then, as PayPal returned their money & left my account in the red, I was away with work & could not get money into my PP account quickly enough & ended up with 2 non payment strikes for two small items I bought :shake:

I would say, contact the seller in a message, but I would either not leave feedback or leave positive.
 
I have contacted them as that was the first thing I done as soon as I opened the package...

They dont have the caps - which I find rather strange tbh - plus there was no apologies or anything regarding the caps.. If they had apologised for there not being any then it would've been completely different, but to recieve something thats not complete without anything said after asking if a bit out of order in my eyes...

I have had in the past when I have had to purchase similar items that weren't included (as you expect them to be) & have been refunded the price of these.. I'm not expecting these to reimburse me but it would have been nice to be told..

But then again we aren't all the same when it comes to ebay either when buying or selling.. I've sold many an item inc cameras, lenses etc and have always mentioned whats included...

Maybe I'm expecting people to be honest like myself but thats the joy's of the bay really - you get what you pay for...

I'm not the one for leaving negative & wont do for this as it didn't warrant negative FB - nor in my eyes did it warrant positive FB..

So I'll wont leave any FB what so ever...
 
Trig's said:
He didnt supply the caps - he just put the TC in its case & that was it... Surely if you brought a lens or TC, that you would expect it to come with the caps as standard... Box, manual or case isn't really that important - just packaging etc, but caps - for protection when not using....

Do you store any of your camera's or lenses without any caps??? I very much doubt it..
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If I'd bought it I would have liked to have the caps yes, but it's a golden rule with eBay that you read the auction details carefully and don't expect to get anything that is not specifically listed or shown in the images. Leaving no feedback in this case is probably the best way.
 
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Steep said:
If I'd bought it I would have liked to have the caps yes, but it's a golden rule with eBay that you read the auction details carefully and don't expect to get anything that is not specifically listed or shown in the images. Leaving no feedback in this case is probably the best way.
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I know what your saying - the thing is that I did ask about the TC & nothing was mentioned about no caps - only that it came with its leather case & had no blemishes..

Surely someone asks about something like this then you'd mention if no caps are inc - as they come as standard....

I wasn't expecting the leather case - its a bonus that it came with one though but I'd assume it being a TC that caps would've have been inc..
 
The caps weren't mentioned in the ad, so you cant really hold the user against them, for all we know he possibly bought it previously off ebay (hence him having no manual) and it came with no caps. he wouldn't know any differently.

Id leave him positive feedback.
 
As described, so has to be a positive really or maybe a harsh neutral, but definitely not a negative
 
Unless otherwise stated, I would expect something to come as supplied when new - box, caps, pouch, paperwork etc.

Not an e-bay user (or fan, because of this sort of situation) but would leave neutral at best.
 
From eBay I would expect something to arrive as it is described in the advert, as the advert made no mention of the caps unfortunately you can't expect it to have have them.

To mark a seller down as you have ass|u|me d otherwise would be unfair.
 
TheNissanMan said:
From eBay I would expect something to arrive as it is described in the advert, as the advert made no mention of the caps unfortunately you can't expect it to have have them.

To mark a seller down as you have ass|u|me d otherwise would be unfair.
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:thinking: It made no mention of a leather case but it came with one.... I would expect a lens to have caps..... Box, manuals are things that people loose

I'm not marking the seller down with a negative - prob a neutral FB (if anything) as it doesn't loose him a point nor does it gain him anything.... Then I prob wont leave them anything at all...
 
You got exactly what the seller said you would. No mention of caps was made in the advert or their reply to you so it is unreasonable of you to expect to get them.

Unless there is some other problem that you haven't disclosed, anything other than positive would be wrong.
 
IF, it was exactly as described, and, from reading your posts, it seems it was, then positive is the only thing you can leave!
 
wontolla said:
IF, it was exactly as described, and, from reading your posts, it seems it was, then positive is the only thing you can leave!
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All the description mentioned was & I quote (copy pasted):
"Nikon AF-1 Teleconverter accessorie which gives a 1.4x focal lenght addition to the lenses being used."

That was it nothing more & nothing less....

Who in their right mind would sell a lens or TC without their caps :shrug: I know that I wouldn't - If I did then I would make sure that it was stated that it didn't have any...
 
no mention of a leather case in the ad - however his response mentioned a soft leather case which it came in.

From your question it appears you didn't ask if it came with front / back caps........... and they were not mentioned in the ad so why would you expect them? :shrug: You are assuming the seller has a knowledge of photography / teleconvertors. Had they say a feedback score of 200 or so with the majority of items being photographically related, I would expect a better description.........

Caveat emptor and next time ask the correct questions!
 
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onomatopoeia said:
You got exactly what the seller said you would. No mention of caps was made in the advert or their reply to you so it is unreasonable of you to expect to get them.

Unless there is some other problem that you haven't disclosed, anything other than positive would be wrong.
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All has been disclosed - nothing has been ledt out nor has anything been added - all has been "copy pasted" from all sent & recieved messages & from the listing.....


So if you brought a lens then that just said say:

"EF70-200/2.8 IS L for sale" then would you just expect the lens with nothing but just the lens itself i.e with no caps :shrug: I think not... You would at least to expect that it had the front & rear lens caps fitted...
 
Lynton said:
no mention of a leather case in the ad - however his response mentioned a soft leather case which it came in.

From your question it appears you didn't ask if it came with front / back caps........... and they were not mentioned in the ad so why would you expect them? :shrug: You are assuming the seller has a knowledge of photography / teleconvertors. Had they say a feedback score of 200 or so with the majority of items being photographically related, I would expect a better description.........

Caveat emptor and next time ask the correct questions!
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With the this selection of camera gear that he had advertised...

GERMAN LEITZ CAMERA RANGEFINDER, CANON F1 35MM SLR FILM CAMERA WITH TWO LENSES, VIVITAR 55MM DUAL CROSS FILTER, Hoya 58mm POLARISING FILTER, Fuji Digital S1 Pro.SLR Digital Camera, Mamiya C330 Pro TLR Film Camera.......

Then yep I would say that they did.....
 
I think it's possible that the seller is maybe selling off some pieces they inherited, the description for the rangefinder and for the adapter you bought don't read like someone who knows much about photographic gear, the vase is ugly! and I'd want to sell that asap too :)
 
Steep said:
I think it's possible that the seller is maybe selling off some pieces they inherited, the description for the rangefinder and for the adapter you bought don't read like someone who knows much about photographic gear, the vase is ugly! and I'd want to sell that asap too :)
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:eek: I didnt buy those all I got was the TC.... I read thru the description in many of their items and they have gone from film into digital....
 
If it's the same guy (Northern Ireland? one feedback?) that I found all he has for sale now is the rangefinder and one ugly white vase.
 
So the item came exactly as described yet you are asking what feedback to leave? Sheesh!

No caps were mentioned in the listing so why would you expect to receive them? You say that the leather pouch wasn't mentioned either but the seller did say it was included when replying to your question.

Lynton has the right of it, the guy is obviously a newbie.

He only has a feedback of one so why would you go and spoil it because you didn't receive something that wasn't included in the listing.

Postive feedback is the way to go.
 
Thats him.... Look at his "completed listing"

The 1 FB didn't or doesn't bother me as well have to start off somewhere & have all been there - although he's been on the bay since Oct 2003.... so any other FB score has gone (only lists 12months)..
 
Trig's said:
Thats him.... Look at his "completed listing"

The 1 FB didn't or doesn't bother me as well have to start off somewhere & have all been there - although he's been on the bay since Oct 2003.... so any other FB score has gone (only lists 12months)..
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His other feedback score hasn't gone anywhere. It's only the % rate that runs on a rolling twelve month basis, not the feedback score itself.
 
On eBay if it is not in the description or the photo I don't expect to get it :shrug: If the item is as described leave a positive. If you really feel it should have been included drop him an email expressing your opinion and if he does not offer you an agreed refund of the cost of the caps then give him at worse a neutral feedback and a short description to explain your feedback. I would give a +pos in this case as the caps were not specifically mentioned in the sale.
 
If he had advertised it as "complete with end caps" I'd be upset, but , since you got what was advertised I reckon you have no complaint, ebay warning-------never assume anything, ask specific questions and if in doubt, don't bid.
 
I would go for positive feedback. He sent it, its as described.
 
I really don't see the issue here, you purchased and received goods which were "as described" on the advert. You should be leaving him positive feedback if anything.

Gary
 
If you're really that wound up about it we could all have a whip-round to raise the £1.50 for a set of caps.

I'm in for 3 pence :D
 
Flash In The Pan said:
If you're really that wound up about it we could all have a whip-round to raise the £1.50 for a set of caps.

I'm in for 3 pence :D
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I'm not wound up about anything :razz:..

I've ordered the BF-3A so there's no need for the whip round :p

:thinking: save that 3p & knockit off some sensor swabs - if I ever get around to ordering some :naughty:...

Like I mentioned in the OP... It was out of curiousity in what people would do....
 
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From reading through the post it seems to me you are itching to leave neutral feedback. You asked what people thought, the overwhelming majority say positive yet you still carry on trying to make a case for the neutral.

He didn't mention caps .. he said there was a case in the message replying to your question and as far as I can see you didn't ask .. are front/rear caps included (which I always do if they are not listed or in the pictures).

If you feel its not right then just don't leave feedback but you cant leave a neutral for something not mentioned as included in the auction or the following message.
 
Mike.P said:
From reading through the post it seems to me you are itching to leave neutral feedback. You asked what people thought, the overwhelming majority say positive yet you still carry on trying to make a case for the neutral.

He didn't mention caps .. he said there was a case in the message replying to your question and as far as I can see you didn't ask .. are front/rear caps included (which I always do if they are not listed or in the pictures).

If you feel its not right then just don't leave feedback but you cant leave a neutral for something not mentioned as included in the auction or the following message.
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With lenses the cap's has been supplied from new - I dont ever remember buying any new lens that didn't have any supplied or to be told that I have to buy some...

I know what I'm going to leave - and stated I was "CURIOUS" to know what others would do... All I'm saying is in the experience of buying lenses that I would expect the caps to come as standard as these are included when any lens or TC is/was 1st brought....

I dont remember reading on Nikons site that front/rear caps are NOT included in their "included accessories" on any listing on any of their lenses...
 
dentedshed said:
So the item came exactly as described yet you are asking what feedback to leave? Sheesh!

No caps were mentioned in the listing so why would you expect to receive them? You say that the leather pouch wasn't mentioned either but the seller did say it was included when replying to your question.

Lynton has the right of it, the guy is obviously a newbie.

He only has a feedback of one so why would you go and spoil it because you didn't receive something that wasn't included in the listing.

Postive feedback is the way to go.
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:thinking: A newbie - a member since Oct 2003.....
 
Trigs, if you sold a lens and somebody left you neutral as it didn't have a filter on, would you be happy?

I know it's not the same to people here, but not everyone will bother keep lens caps etc on it, it probably never strikes some people as important.

Annoying, maybe, but they've not done anything wrong.
 
The TC was originally sold with the caps, and has now been supplied to you without the caps. I would have expected caps. It's not like it is something extra, an accessory (like a filter) but something supplied from new.

The seller should have mentioned this when they stated there are no instructions, so I don't think you would be unfair in leaving a neutral. If anything it may well encourage them to be a little more complete with their descriptions in future.
 
I've done your poll and selected positive, for all the reasons given before.

There are two E Bay auctions that I have come across where the buyers left negative feedback for unbelievably stupid and unfair reasons.

The first was because the seller posted the item in a USED jiffy bag, as opposed to a new unused one.

The second was where the buyer collected the item in person. He gave a negative because the seller didn't offer him a cup of tea.

Honestly, if you do anything other than leave positive, you're not too far from being eligible to join this club of E Bay buyers. And here I leave the obligatory 'smiley' :)
 
Trig's said:
I purchased a Nikon TC-14E from ebay which came with a soft leather case but no front or rear caps..

All that was stated in the description/listing was just this:"Nikon AF-1 Teleconverter accessorie which gives a 1.4x focal lenght addition to the lenses being used."

I did ask before buying regarding the usual stuff we all ask -

My question -Can you give some more details on this lens please....
i.e condition - scratches/blemishes, age, is it boxed with manual/instructions... The usual crap really that we all seem to ask/want to know.

their reply - There are no blemishes on the Nikon teleconverter. I have no instructions for the article.It just bayonet fits between lens and camera body. It comes in it's own soft leather type pouch.


So, now would you leave positive, neutral or negative feedback... :shrug:

I'm looking at neutral due to the fact that there's no caps & nothing was stated that there wasn't any

Negative is abit much as there is nowt wrong with it - condition etc & Positive is well a just a "no go" really..

They have been on ebay since 2003 & have only a score of 1... :thinking: so what went on over a year ago is anyones guess really :shrug:

Postage was £2 (2nd class recorded) & they did dispatch it quite quickly..

So in short what would you give.... Out of curiousity really..

I have sourced a BF-3A cap now & have plenty of rear caps
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I feel you must except this as positive and always read the listings carefully, the amount i have found with mistakes is incredible.

classics are and works both ways, if it mentioned caps it may have gone for more and you could have missed it.


canon 400D with 17 85 lens >>>>picture 18 55 lens:thinking:
then my best purchase canon 50mm 1.8 bidding picture shows 1.4 won @ £95 quid.:thumbs:<<< selling for a freind.


if you know what an item should come with then ask, if you think you may get a bargain because something is not mentioned an it could be there ???.

if it's not mentioned in the listing assume it isn't there.

merc
 
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