Which 77mm CP

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I'm looking for a CP for my 24-70 lens. I have been looking at Hoya but they now have about 6 different ones to choose from. My budget would be around £50-£150 for a 77mm version. Would prefer a slim type as I may at some point use with a wide angle lens. I will also consider other makes. So what's out there worth buying?
 
Thanks folks. My wife is in New York and is going to B&H Photo so will likely buy me the filter there seeing as I'm staying at home. Lol. Still looking through their website as there is so many available including a few B&W and just 1 Marumi which is an Exus so need to read up as nobody has mentioned which B&W or Marumi
 
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I do have B+W 77mm XS-Pro Digital HTC Kasemann Circular Polariser MRC Nano Filter, expensive, but very good quality, and I can use it on 4 of my lenses, you get what you pay for, so even if the cost is high, the results you get, are excellent.
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Thanks folks. My wife is in New York and is going to B&H Photo so will likely buy me the filter there seeing as I'm staying at home. Lol. Still looking through their website as there is so many available including a few B&W and just 1 Marumi which is an Exus so need to read up as nobly has mentioned which B&W or Marumi
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The best polarisers are multi-coated, plus an easy-clean protective outer coat. They are also the most expensive. There are the normal-toned ones, at about 1.7-1.9 stops density, and the lighter-toned variety that I prefer, at around 1.2 stops. The former - Hoya Revo, Marumi Super DHG and B+W MRC, the latter Hoya HD and Marumi Exus.

Edit: beware fakes that are very hard to identify unless comparing side by side. The best way to ensure genuine is to purchase from a dealer supplied by the official importer.

Edit2: Forgot to mention, the easy-clean surfaces of top-range filters are also water resistant and rain just wipes off. If water is allowed to dry on normal multicoated filters, they can leave silvery stains that are very hard to remove, sometimes impossible. Not sure they actually do any significant harm in image quality terms, but they can't help.
 
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I tried the top of the range Marumi polariser and the coating was incredibly easy to scratch. Unless you're going to keep yours in its case and only get it out on Sundays i would suggest avoiding the Marumi Exus.

The Marumi Super DHG that I now have is excellent.
 
jerry12953 said:
I tried the top of the range Marumi polariser and the coating was incredibly easy to scratch. Unless you're going to keep yours in its case and only get it out on Sundays i would suggest avoiding the Marumi Exus.

The Marumi Super DHG that I now have is excellent.
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Wasn't that a Hoya HD you had problems with Jerry? I can only think you've been very unlucky, or maybe had a fake?

I have a Hoya HD, and just now tried to scratch it with the sharp end of a paper clip, around the edge out of sight. Modern coatings are very tough, and even quite firm pressure leaves no mark whatsoever.

On the other hand, filters should always be kept in a case or wallet and handled carefully, if only to guard against finger marks and smears that are almost guaranteed to create flare.
 
No, it was definitely the Marumi. I thought....I'll go top of the range....only to find that the coating was extremely fragile. I suppose it COULD have been a fake, but I had a quick google this morning to check my facts and found another user complaining of the same thing.
I sent it back immediately and got a Super DHG instead which is very hard to scratch (although I've still managed to) and excellent in every way.

If you're out in the landscape, say, it's really just impractical to get the filter in and out of its case every two minutes. Mine stays on the lens most of the time. I take it off when i need to.:)
 
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No, it was definitely the Marumi. I thought....I'll go top of the range....only to find that the coating was extremely fragile. I suppose it COULD have been a fake, but I had a quick google this morning to check my facts and found another user complaining of the same thing.
I sent it back immediately and got a Super DHG instead which is very hard to scratch (although I've still managed to) and excellent in every way.

If you're out in the landscape, say, it's really just impractical to get the filter in and out of its case every two minutes. Mine stays on the lens most of the time. I take it off when i need to.:)
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Not questioning your experience Jerry, but maybe there was a bunch of fakes around, or a dodgy batch? I'd be surprised if the top of the range Marumi Exus didn't have coatings at least as good as the Marumi Super DHG, if not actually the same?

As you know, I have tested maybe 20 polarisers for my magazine work and I always try that paper clip test. It's a good simulation of photographers that trek over the Welsh mountains with filters rattling around loose in their Barbour jackets ;) I've not yet managed to make an impression on any of them. You really have to press ridiculously hard to make an impression. In fact the only filters that are delicate in this respect are resin grads.
 
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HoppyUK said:
Not questioning your experience Jerry, but maybe there was a bunch of fakes around, or a dodgy batch? I'd be surprised if the top of the range Marumi Exus didn't have coatings at least as good as the Marumi Super DHG, if not actually the same?

As you know, I have tested maybe 20 polarisers for my magazine work and I always try that paper clip test. It's a good simulation of photographers that trek over the Welsh mountains with filters rattling around loose in their Barbour jackets ;) I've not yet managed to make an impression on any of them. You really have to press ridiculously hard to make an impression. In fact the only filters that are delicate in this respect are resin grads.
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As you seem to remember what kit I've owned in the past (and even do now!;)) your post above reminds me of the top of the range Hoya I once tried. Could it be that in order to provide the best performance optically the manufacturers have to leave off the hard outer coating? I'm sure these filters are brilliant in the studio but out in the field for a user such as myself they don't cut the mustard.
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Thanks folks, i have decided to give this filter a try- B+W 77mm XS-Pro Kaesemann High Transmission Circular Polarizer MRC-Nano Filter, lets hope its pretty decent.
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That's new to B+W, of the higher-transmission type (like Hoya HD and Marumi Exus, amongst others).

I've not tried it, and it's far from the cheapest, but I'd confidentally expect it to be quite excellent :thumbs:
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Not to many reviews on it either but with it being the nee B&W i thought i would give it a try. Im a light user so it wont take loads of punishment. I just want something in my budget that will do s sterling job when required. Thanks for the help!
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IIRC, B+W filters come in a less than handy square box. Good protection, but inconvenient. Suggest a filter wallet - lots at low prices on Amazon/ebay.
 
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HoppyUK said:
IIRC, B+W filters come in a less than handy square box.
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As do every other brand mentioned here - I may have led a sheltered life but I've never seen a filter that comes in anything other than a square box.
HoppyUK said:
Good protection, but inconvenient. Suggest a filter wallet - lots at low prices on Amazon/ebay
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I'm afraid I cannot see why it's "inconvenient."
Once I've chucked it into my equipment case it doesn't matter much what shape the case is, and I prefer a rigid case for better protection than a soft wallet.
 
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