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Chaz Photos

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Has anyone looked at the Take a view competition and it T & C?
You have to Pay to enter and they have this in there t & c

By entering the competition, you grant Take a view and its sponsors and supporters a non-exclusive, irrevocable licence to reproduce, enlarge, publish or exhibit, on any media, the images for any purpose connected with the competition.
This may include, but is not limited to:
a) inclusion in the Take a view book;
b) display at any exhibitions;
c) on a secure web browser for judging purposes;
d) on the Take a view website and on the websites of sponsors and supporters;
e) for use in press releases to be distributed to national, regional & specialist press giving information about or promoting the competition; and
f) on any merchandise commissioned by the organisers.

I like the May include but not limited to…..
It a rip off
And look at the sponsors of it
http://www.take-a-view.co.uk/termsandconditions.htm
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I don't think it's unreasonable to want free reproduction of images in connection with the competition which is clearly stated. You're not being asked to give away copyright or anything, you can still do anything else you like with the images.

You missed this quote from the regs:
"For any use that falls outside this remit, royalties will be discussed & negotiated with the photographer concerned.
"Copyright of each image is retained by its respective photographer."

The phrase "may include but not limited to" is a common catch-all that competition organisers put in there just in case they've missed something. It doesn't mean they're going to rip you off deliberately.

If you feel that paying to enter is a good idea, then it all seems okay to me. Bearing in mind that the entry fee will put off most people, your chances of winning £10,000 are greatly increased numerically. That's a big prize!
 
Interesting that images can't have been manipulated (fences removed etc) why would this matter in a competition, again why ask for captions if they are not used in the judging. Thats sounds a bit like they need the pics for advertising and they have to reflect reality, and they need to know where the pics were taken.
To me is smells like a way of getting a load of images on the cheap, yes they might be giving a prize of 10K but lets not forget they might get more than that in entrance money.
 
It has been going for two years now, maybe we have some past winners on TP that can give us some inside information.
 
HoppyUK said:
I don't think it's unreasonable to want free reproduction of images in connection with the competition which is clearly stated. You're not being asked to give away copyright or anything, you can still do anything else you like with the images.

You missed this quote from the regs:
"For any use that falls outside this remit, royalties will be discussed & negotiated with the photographer concerned.
"Copyright of each image is retained by its respective photographer."

The phrase "may include but not limited to" is a common catch-all that competition organisers put in there just in case they've missed something. It doesn't mean they're going to rip you off deliberately.

If you feel that paying to enter is a good idea, then it all seems okay to me. Bearing in mind that the entry fee will put off most people, your chances of winning £10,000 are greatly increased numerically. That's a big prize!
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:agree: If you enter an image into a competition then you have to expect them to be able to use the image in connection with that competition, looks pretty standard to me. :shrug:
 
Yup. If that was written without the "connected to the competition" caveat and the company approached us with a view to posting it on TP, we would say no (as we do and have done with other competitions).

Restricting it to the competition is fine. You have to expect them to be able to use it for the processing of the competition, and its fair to allow them to use the shots for promotion of the competition too.

Anything outside of that is a no no though.
 
swanseamale47 said:
Interesting that images can't have been manipulated (fences removed etc) why would this matter in a competition, again why ask for captions if they are not used in the judging. Thats sounds a bit like they need the pics for advertising and they have to reflect reality, and they need to know where the pics were taken.
To me is smells like a way of getting a load of images on the cheap, yes they might be giving a prize of 10K but lets not forget they might get more than that in entrance money.
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This isn't some corporation looking for free shots, this is a genuine photography competition started by Charlie Waite.
 
Interesting that images can't have been manipulated (fences removed etc) why would this matter in a competition
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I say this matters more in competitions open to the public more than anywhere else.

This rule should apply to all photo competitions that are open to the general public, we tend to forget that the vast majority of people including children taking pictures for competitions do not do any post processing, for them the local shop or chemist does it, so their entries are "as taken". A level playing field for everyone.

We expect this rule to apply to press pictures most of the time.

The WWT/Nikon photo of the year competition introduced this rule in 2008 following a lot of complaints ( including one from me) from the 2007 competition where a number of winning entries had been manipulated.
 
we had one competition recently submitted to us where the organizers said no manipulation of any sort, which included sharpening or levels!
 
T&C
d) on the Take a view website and on the websites of sponsors and supporters;

Thsi is what gets me most. All the sponsor or supporters have to do is to ref Take a View and they can use it for any reson and after all WE will have Paid them to use it ???
 
Chaz Photos said:
T&C
d) on the Take a view website and on the websites of sponsors and supporters;

Thsi is what gets me most. All the sponsor or supporters have to do is to ref Take a View and they can use it for any reson and after all WE will have Paid them to use it ???
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So what? It has no commercial value if they have to reference the competition, you really are reading far more into it than there is. This clause is just to allow photos to be used by sponsors in relation to the competition. Who would begrudge them that?
 
Chaz Photos said:
T&C
d) on the Take a view website and on the websites of sponsors and supporters;

Thsi is what gets me most. All the sponsor or supporters have to do is to ref Take a View and they can use it for any reson and after all WE will have Paid them to use it ???
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But not for any reason, just in reference to the competition. Still don't see a problem. :shrug:
 
My view is that the T & C are perfectly acceptable

but I won't be entering this year 'cos I was a bit peeved at entering landscapes into what turned into a pet photography contest last year....

Si
 
Steve Smith said:
And if you don't know who Charlie Waite is, then you don't know much about UK landscape photographers.


Steve.
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:thinking: Should I... we...? :shrug:

Guess I know nothing about landscape photographers eh :D
 
NaturalBritain said:
My view is that the T & C are perfectly acceptable

but I won't be entering this year 'cos I was a bit peeved at entering landscapes into what turned into a pet photography contest last year....
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Yeah cos landscapes simply can't have animlas in them can they?

Maybe the judges thought that the winning shot was a refeshing change from the usual landscape fare.
 
NorthernNikon said:
Yeah cos landscapes simply can't have animlas in them can they?

Maybe the judges thought that the winning shot was a refeshing change from the usual landscape fare.
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Maybe they did

but the winning image wasn't a landscape with an animal in it

it was an animal portrait with a background that happened to be scenery
 
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