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So you go to a place that you've been going to most days for weeks, watching the habits of a certain bird and trying to get them used to your presence. Then one day you go there to find another tog there, obviously trying to remain camouflaged. Do you approach them? Ignore them and set up anyway? Or just accept that they got there first and leave them to it? Today when faced with this situation I did the latter. I just walked further along. But on the way back I rather worryingly saw him amongst the reed beds, obviously trying to get closer but seriously at risk of disturbing said bird at nest :/ So wwyd?
 
It's a free country.

He was there first, you take your turn.

As for disturbing the bird, is there a law against it?

Looks like you'll just have to get there first next time.
 
kendo1 said:
It's a free country.

He was there first, you take your turn.

As for disturbing the bird, is there a law against it?

Looks like you'll just have to get there first next time.
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Depending on whether the bird is a schedule 1 bird....then it is an offence to intentionally or recklessly disturb a wild bird while it is building a nest or when it is in or near a nest with eggs or young; or disturb their dependent young.
 
Solo man said:
Depending on whether the bird is a schedule 1 bird....then it is an offence to intentionally or recklessly disturb a wild bird while it is building a nest or when it is in or near a nest with eggs or young; or disturb their dependent young.
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Definite schedule one bird. I have no issue with someone getting there first (although, having put in over a month of trying to get these birds to accept me i'd be a bit peeved if they were there every time i went :lol:). I just didn't know whether he would expect to be left alone, or if i should just set up anyway. As has been said, its a free country (works both ways). But i don't want to purposely annoy anyone.

I'll be extremely peed off if hes scared said bird away from the nest by being an idiot though!
 
keljbj said:
Definite schedule one bird. I have no issue with someone getting there first (although, having put in over a month of trying to get these birds to accept me i'd be a bit peeved if they were there every time i went :lol:). I just didn't know whether he would expect to be left alone, or if i should just set up anyway. As has been said, its a free country (works both ways). But i don't want to purposely annoy anyone.

I'll be extremely peed off if hes scared said bird away from the nest by being an idiot though!
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Quite easy to define, was the bird you were there to see on this list below

Schedule 1 - Part I
Birds and their young, for which it is an offence to intentionally or recklessly disturb at, on or near an ‘active’ nest.

Avocet
Bee-eater
Bittern
Bittern, little
Bluethroat
Brambling
Bunting, cirl
Bunting, Lapland
Bunting, snow
Buzzard, honey
Capercaillie (Scotland only)
Chough
Corncrake
Crake, spotted
Crossbills (all species)
Divers (all species)
Dotterel
Duck, long-tailed
Eagle, golden
Eagle, white-tailed
Falcon, gyr
Fieldfare
Firecrest
Garganey
Godwit, black-tailed
Goshawk
Grebe, black-necked
Grebe, Slavonian
Greenshank
Gull, little
Gull, Mediterranean
Harriers (all species)
Heron, purple
Hobby
Hoopoe
Kingfisher
Kite, red
Merlin
Oriole, golden
Osprey
Owl, barn
Owl, snowy
Peregrine
Petrel, Leach's
Phalarope, red-necked
Plover, Kentish
Plover, little ringed
Quail, common
Redstart, black
Redwing
Rosefinch, scarlet
Ruff
Sandpiper, green
Sandpiper, purple
Sandpiper, wood
Scaup
Scoter, common
Scoter, velvet
Serin
Shorelark
Shrike, red-backed
Spoonbill
Stilt, black-winged
Stint, Temminck's
Stone-curlew
Swan, Bewick's
Swan, whooper
Tern, black
Tern, little
Tern, roseate
Tit, bearded
Tit, crested
Treecreeper, short-toed
Warbler, Cetti's
Warbler, Dartford
Warbler, marsh
Warbler, Savi's
Whimbrel
Woodlark
Wryneck

Source: http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/wildbirdslaw/birdsandlaw/wca/schedules.aspx
 
keljbj said:
Definite schedule one bird. I have no issue with someone getting there first (although, having put in over a month of trying to get these birds to accept me i'd be a bit peeved if they were there every time i went :lol:). I just didn't know whether he would expect to be left alone, or if i should just set up anyway. As has been said, its a free country (works both ways). But i don't want to purposely annoy anyone.

I'll be extremely peed off if hes scared said bird away from the nest by being an idiot though!
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It's very difficult to advise in these situations, as we aren't there......personally I would have set up as normal.....
At the very least, if you are certain it's a schedule 1 bird, then I would certainly point that out to them....
 
keljbj said:
I have no issue with someone getting there first (although, having put in over a month of trying to get these birds to accept me i'd be a bit peeved if they were there every time i went :lol:).
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I appreciate how frustrating that must be.

Not everybody enjoys a conversation but perhaps a quite hello before setting up nearby and then when he's ready to leave have a wee conversation about what you've previously done after all you've a comon interest. You may just find he can tip you off with another spot he has just like yours.
 
dinners said:
I appreciate how frustrating that must be.

Not everybody enjoys a conversation but perhaps a quite hello before setting up nearby and then when he's ready to leave have a wee conversation about what you've previously done after all you've a comon interest. You may just find he can tip you off with another spot he has just like yours.
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Some people go OTT with their nature shooting IMO ...

And nobody has 'rights' to nature, shoot away from behind him if you wish.
 
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