whats the deal with people requesting pictures deleted at weddings?

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Just as a side thought off the other thread about people wanting pictures deleted, removed from sites or not to be photographed in the first place at weddings, where do photographers stand on that, is it a public place at a venue or whats the law etc?

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In my opinion, it's down to expectation. It's a well known fact that there are photographers at weddings so when you accept an invitation, you also accept the fact that you will be photographed (and spend too much on drink and have to listen to boring speeches).


Steve.
 
Just tell them the b & g have paid good money for a photographer. If they really don't want their photo taken is not your loss. Then move on if they're still unhappy. It's not worth a fight
 
It's not really clear what you mean. Do you mean people are asking to see the photos and then asking them to be deleted?
 
UaeExile said:
It's not really clear what you mean. Do you mean people are asking to see the photos and then asking them to be deleted?
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well nothing has happened, im only asking off the back of the other thread about people wanting to have photos taken down after the event, but made me think about what about during the event, people saying "dont take photos of me" or "did you just take a pic of me, i want it deleted" and so on.
 
Get a Nikon Df, tell them it's a film camera and the images cannot be deleted!


Steve.
 
Steve Smith said:
Get a Nikon Df, tell them it's a film camera and the images cannot be deleted!


Steve.
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thats a really bl**dy good idea, just looking for an excuse to buy one!
 
Or, use film!
 
mart77 said:
well nothing has happened, im only asking off the back of the other thread about people wanting to have photos taken down after the event, but made me think about what about during the event, people saying "dont take photos of me" or "did you just take a pic of me, i want it deleted" and so on.
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Then you've imagined a problem to get worried about.

It's amazing, I've no idea where all the people on Facebook go to party, they certainly don't attend the weddings I photograph, when shooting reportage the actual problem I have is stopping people 'acting up' for the camera, whilst I'm trying to capture natural behaviour.

I've had a couple of enquiries from people who didn't want the pictures putting on the web, which I'd be happy to do, but they never booked (I'm probably not as good as I ought to be at hiding 'why not you retard' from my response)
 
Phil V said:
Then you've imagined a problem to get worried about.

It's amazing, I've no idea where all the people on Facebook go to party, they certainly don't attend the weddings I photograph, when shooting reportage the actual problem I have is stopping people 'acting up' for the camera, whilst I'm trying to capture natural behaviour.

I've had a couple of enquiries from people who didn't want the pictures putting on the web, which I'd be happy to do, but they never booked (I'm probably not as good as I ought to be at hiding 'why not you retard' from my response)
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only reason it came to mind was because of the other thread on here about someone wanting pictures to be deleted. I agree though, all i have found are people that want me to take pictures, but the question came to mind still
 
I kinda thought that was the actual thinking, but the question looked far less ambiguous;
whats the deal with people requesting pictures deleted at weddings?

Doesn't sound like 'is there a problem with that too?'

In answer to the actual question, we're in business, we respect the wishes of our customers and where possible their friends too.

So if someone is clearly upset if I point a camera at them, more than not taking the shot, there's no longer a shot to take. If someone asks that I delete a shot, I'd refer them to the best man or MoB, if I couldn't smooth it over myself, but it's highly unlikely to get that serious. Although I did once read of an a******e who kicked off at the photographer for 'annoying him with a flash' that ended in said guest being ejected.

If a parent requested an image taken down from FB or a blogpost, I'd remove it and seek arbitration from the B&G if it spoilt the general set (ie lots of pictures which included a flowergirl)
 
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mart77 said:
only reason it came to mind was because of the other thread on here about someone wanting pictures to be deleted.
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I ahve read the other thread.. but your making a mistake presuming everyone on TP has read the other thread:)
 
KIPAX said:
I ahve read the other thread.. but your making a mistake presuming everyone on TP has read the other thread:)
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lol someones had a bad day ;)
 
Phil V said:
I kinda thought that was the actual thinking, but the question looked far less ambiguous;
whats the deal with people requesting pictures deleted at weddings?

Doesn't sound like 'is there a problem with that too?'

In answer to the actual question, we're in business, we respect the wishes of our customers and where possible their friends too.

So if someone is clearly upset if I point a camera at them, more than not taking the shot, there's no longer a shot to take. If someone asks that I delete a shot, I'd refer them to the best man or MoB, if I couldn't smooth it over myself, but it's highly unlikely to get that serious. Although I did once read of an fracster who kicked off at the photographer for 'annoying him with a flash' that ended in said guest being ejected.

If a parent requested an image taken down from FB or a blogpost, I'd remove it and seek arbitration from the B&G if it spoilt the general set (ie lots of pictures which included a flowergirl)
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Ah so it has happened to someone then, that was what i was wondering, and yes i think referring to the bride and groom or MOB is a good idea!
 
I would think most people attending an wedding would expect to have their photograph taken,if they don't want their photo taken just keep out of the photographers way,plus it is an social event if your not into things like that maybe stay away from wedding etc :)
 
mart77 said:
Ah so it has happened to someone then, that was what i was wondering, and yes i think referring to the bride and groom or MOB is a good idea!
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It's not quite the same thing, it was on a US forum and the bloke was complaining about the photographers flash setup, because a remote flash on a stand sited close to his table, was getting on his nerves.
 
Mart77 it's not clear from this whether you're the officially appointed photographer at the wedding or a guest with a camera. If you have been booked to shoot the thing then folk should expect to have to have their picture taken at some point. If you are an invited guest just taking your own shots of the day then I guess if someone doesn't want their pic taken then they don't. Personally, I hate having my pic taken, especially if I'm the worse for a few glasses of bubbly! I would far rather be on the other side of the camera any time. If you are just doing your own thing with your camera at the do and someone asks you to delete a shot of them for some reason, then it would be a bit churlish to refuse IMO. I've recently been to a wedding where some slightly drunk wannabe snapper was seriously p***ing folks off shoving his lens in their faces all the time.
 
Amongst the people who have asked me not to take their pictures:

1. Celebs
2. People who think they are celebs (far more hassle than #1)
3. Members of special forces
4. Active members of special branch (for some reason special branch are very fussy about this - I think it might be to do with the IRA)
5. People who said they didn't have work permits or were on the run from police (I've never really believed the second of these)
6. People who were supposed to be at work but had pulled a sickie
7. Young Asians whose parents didn't know they drank
8. People who were smoking (usually tobacco as far as I can tell)
9. Asian bride and groom who were kissing AFTER their civil wedding but before their religious one (i.e. they were actually married at the time)
10. One bride (for real - there are no posed pictures of her at her wedding)

Oh and one Asian bride who asked why I was taking her picture when I'd actually been hired by the groom's family.

I've been physically threatened by a guest once (his wife apologised immediately and he did later) and a couple of people have become a bit aggressive over my taking their picture but it's never really come to anything.

I have never deleted a picture on the spot for anybody though I have agreed not to post them online. Nobody has ever asked me not to take a picture because there was a child in it.

Basically, people are weird.
 
JonathanRyan said:
Amongst the people who have asked me not to take their pictures:

1. Celebs
2. People who think they are celebs (far more hassle than #1)
3. Members of special forces
4. Active members of special branch (for some reason special branch are very fussy about this - I think it might be to do with the IRA)
5. People who said they didn't have work permits or were on the run from police (I've never really believed the second of these)
6. People who were supposed to be at work but had pulled a sickie
7. Young Asians whose parents didn't know they drank
8. People who were smoking (usually tobacco as far as I can tell)
9. Asian bride and groom who were kissing AFTER their civil wedding but before their religious one (i.e. they were actually married at the time)
10. One bride (for real - there are no posed pictures of her at her wedding)

Oh and one Asian bride who asked why I was taking her picture when I'd actually been hired by the groom's family.

I've been physically threatened by a guest once (his wife apologised immediately and he did later) and a couple of people have become a bit aggressive over my taking their picture but it's never really come to anything.

I have never deleted a picture on the spot for anybody though I have agreed not to post them online. Nobody has ever asked me not to take a picture because there was a child in it.

Basically, people are weird.
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2 things spring to mind...
I live a boring life
I need to break into Asian weddings, although we don't have that large an Asian population.
 
JonathanRyan said:
Amongst the people who have asked me not to take their pictures:

1. Celebs
2. People who think they are celebs (far more hassle than #1)
3. Members of special forces
4. Active members of special branch (for some reason special branch are very fussy about this - I think it might be to do with the IRA)
5. People who said they didn't have work permits or were on the run from police (I've never really believed the second of these)
6. People who were supposed to be at work but had pulled a sickie
7. Young Asians whose parents didn't know they drank
8. People who were smoking (usually tobacco as far as I can tell)
9. Asian bride and groom who were kissing AFTER their civil wedding but before their religious one (i.e. they were actually married at the time)
10. One bride (for real - there are no posed pictures of her at her wedding)

Oh and one Asian bride who asked why I was taking her picture when I'd actually been hired by the groom's family.

I've been physically threatened by a guest once (his wife apologised immediately and he did later) and a couple of people have become a bit aggressive over my taking their picture but it's never really come to anything.

I have never deleted a picture on the spot for anybody though I have agreed not to post them online. Nobody has ever asked me not to take a picture because there was a child in it.

Basically, people are weird.
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wow, thats a hell of a list and entertaining/enlightening at the same time. Cant believe actually being physically threatened and also a bride asking why you are taking pics of her is nuts! good reply though!
 
There's the law and then there's the morals.

Personally unless there was a compelling reason not to, i'd always respect people's right to privacy. So I'd agree not to post it online but I wouldn't delete.
 
WE were once contacted by the best man to remove a photo of the whole wedding party (online gallery, password protected), in which he was holding his baby son.
We referred him to the Bride and Groom, pointing out that, as he was fully aware of us taking the shot (30 odd people in the posed shots) we would NOT remove it without the request coming directly from the Clients.
The groom told him to so...... go away.
 
Similar question:
I want to get on with my wedding business this year and make the next step. I have covered many weddings from friends so far and I love it.
I want to make a homepage with the best moments of each wedding, so that potential clients could see my work. I think that's really important, cause who would book a photographer without having seen his pictures? ;)
My gf is veeeery anxious when it comes to displaying people on the internet. She told me I should not put up any pictures with guests on it! I think while she might be 100% correct with the law, it's just not possible for a wedding photographer to put up a website with only pics of b&g or with pictures where he has asked everyone for her permission to show on the webpage.
What do you think? As a guest, do you give a silent permission because you know you are on a wedding party with an photographer?
 
Arcanion said:
Similar question:
I want to get on with my wedding business this year and make the next step. I have covered many weddings from friends so far and I love it.
I want to make a homepage with the best moments of each wedding, so that potential clients could see my work. I think that's really important, cause who would book a photographer without having seen his pictures? ;)
My gf is veeeery anxious when it comes to displaying people on the internet. She told me I should not put up any pictures with guests on it! I think while she might be 100% correct with the law, it's just not possible for a wedding photographer to put up a website with only pics of b&g or with pictures where he has asked everyone for her permission to show on the webpage.
What do you think? As a guest, do you give a silent permission because you know you are on a wedding party with an photographer?
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You really ought to have started a new thread, and you really ought to read up on the legalities of all this before starting 'in business'.

But just to help, your GF isn't '100% correct with the law'. In fact she's 100% incorrect. A fact you'd have gleaned, if you'd only read this thread.;)

However, some people have an expectation of privacy, and you've shot these weddings 'as a mate', so whether you've ever broached the subject of using images for advertising purposes with your couples becomes an issue. Because whilst you're free to post whatever you like on the web, as soon as you're shooting commissioned work, you need the permission of the customer.

Welcome aboard - we really are helpful in the business section if you want any more advice.
 
Phil V said:
You really ought to have started a new thread, and you really ought to read up on the legalities of all this before starting 'in business'.

But just to help, your GF isn't '100% correct with the law'. In fact she's 100% incorrect. A fact you'd have gleaned, if you'd only read this thread.;)

However, some people have an expectation of privacy, and you've shot these weddings 'as a mate', so whether you've ever broached the subject of using images for advertising purposes with your couples becomes an issue. Because whilst you're free to post whatever you like on the web, as soon as you're shooting commissioned work, you need the permission of the customer.

Welcome aboard - we really are helpful in the business section if you want any more advice.
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OK will go to the business section than. Thank you.
The couples all gave me their permission to post pics on my website, I was just wondering whats up with the guests. Will read some more.
 
Arcanion said:
OK will go to the business section than. Thank you.
The couples all gave me their permission to post pics on my website, I was just wondering whats up with the guests. Will read some more.
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Like I said; just read this thread carefully. Your answer is here, although I also mentioned your GF is wrong, to put your mind at rest.
 
Steve Smith said:
Get a Nikon Df, tell them it's a film camera and the images cannot be deleted!


Steve.
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I did this once at a club. guy was a pain in the ass so just made the flash go rather than take an image and told him it was film - dumb ass believed me lol
 
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