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being xmas and all the prices of the nikon d80 are coming down quite a bit and also due to the relese of the d90, and i have seen it in jessops for only £391 with the 18-55 vr, now i have the d40 with the non vr 18-55 so would this be a good upgrade from the d40? i also feel i have outgrown the d40 too.
also i have the sigma 18-200 hsm and the 70-300 hsm for xmas pressies will these still be ok on a d80 body??

pls help me.:thinking: oh and one more thing can i get the body even cheaper without the lens?

thanks
Gibbo.
 
A.Gibson said:
being xmas and all that prices of the nikon d80 are coming down quite a bit and also due to the relese of the d90, and i have seen it in jessops for only £391 with the 18-55 vr, now i have the d40 with the non vr 18-55 so would this be a good upgrade from the d40? i also feel i have outgrown the d40 too.
also i have the sigma 18-200 hsm and the 70-300 hsm for xmas pressies will these still be ok on a d80 body??

pls help me.:thinking: oh and one more thing can i get the body even cheaper without the lens?

thanks
Gibbo.
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As a body yes, but personally as a camera no. The processor is the same as your D40 iirc, so unless you invest in glass the image should be much the same. My advice, save your money, keep saving for the D90 as the expeed processor is worth waiting for.

Pete.
 
I'm in a similar position however I've decided to hold out until I can get the D90. I will be going for the body only (around £560).
 
thanks pete,
im just getting a bit fustrated with the lack of shortcut buttons on the d40 and yes it is just as a body upgrade as ill be getting some sigma lenses for xmas and will be buying more in the new year. is the d80 easyer to use quickly? as in changing W/B, ISO AF MODE and stuff like that?
 
Diego Garcia said:
As a body yes, but personally as a camera no. The processor is the same as your D40 iirc, so unless you invest in glass the image should be much the same. My advice, save your money, keep saving for the D90 as the expeed processor is worth waiting for.

Pete.
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You've got this a bit wrong I'm afraid.

Firstly "Expeed" is an imaging concept, not a CPU or processor. Nikon Pro magazine explains this well - even Coolpixes have EXPEED.

In any event image processors are only interesting from a JPEG point of view.

FYI the D60 has "Expeed", the D40x does not. Same sensor. Same IQ.
 
A.Gibson said:
thanks pete,
im just getting a bit fustrated with the lack of shortcut buttons on the d40 and yes it is just as a body upgrade as ill be getting some sigma lenses for xmas and will be buying more in the new year. is the d80 easyer to use quickly? as in changing W/B, ISO AF MODE and stuff like that?
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Have you been and had a play with one? I went to my local Jessops and played about with the D80/D90 and D300.

The improved metering in the D90 and D300 swayed my decision away from the D80 as well as the inclusion of Live View which I hope to put to good use when I embark on some Macro shots.
 
puddleduck said:
You've got this a bit wrong I'm afraid.

Firstly "Expeed" is an imaging concept, not a CPU or processor. Nikon Pro magazine explains this well - even Coolpixes have EXPEED.

In any event image processors are only interesting from a JPEG point of view.

FYI the D60 has "Expeed", the D40x does not. Same sensor. Same IQ.
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ok. but they are different....spose i meant senor....
 
not yet no but i may do soon.
as i have only had the d40 about 6 months i cant really afford the d90 or d300 thus why ive been lookin into the d80.
can anyone who owns one shed any light?
 
puddleduck said:
You've got this a bit wrong I'm afraid.

Firstly "Expeed" is an imaging concept, not a CPU or processor. Nikon Pro magazine explains this well - even Coolpixes have EXPEED.

In any event image processors are only interesting from a JPEG point of view.

FYI the D60 has "Expeed", the D40x does not. Same sensor. Same IQ.
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The term processor does not have to mean as in " CPU "

The term "Expeed" refers to how the camera processes / optimises the images, and i think thats what DG was referring to.
 
Diego Garcia said:
ok. but they are different....spose i meant senor....
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Oh sure... but the D80 / D90 differences are due to the better sensor, and (presumably) better metering.

Actually the Expeed can be implemented on Sparc RISC processor in-camera but its also a software concept too (which is why Capture can apply things after the fact to RAW, or even to early cameras in many instantance) - ie Picture Controls / CA removal etc. Or why Coolpixes can claim to have Expeed when both Canon and Nikon are using the same Sony sensors in their P&S cameras.

But Expeed is really just a Buzzword, and doesn't mean very much at all.
 
so can anyone help?lol im more confused now than when i first posted.lol
d80 owners please help me.lol
thanks
Gibbo
 
Well my gut feeling looking at your lenses, is that you need to invest there, not in the body.

Your lenses are sub-par. The £550 on the D90 go a long way towads investing in glass.

Some nice f/2.8 lenses or a nice fast prime would do you much more good at the mo.
 
no offense but please read the post fully, i want something that is easy and quick to change the settings as the d40 is a bit annoying sometimes going thru the menus. im happy with the lenses i have and will be getting and i feel i dont NEED to spend on lenses just yet.
oh and i wasn't thinking of getting the d90.lol
 
A.Gibson said:
not yet no but i may do soon.
as i have only had the d40 about 6 months i cant really afford the d90 or d300 thus why ive been lookin into the d80.
can anyone who owns one shed any light?
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I bought a D60 back in June, then a few weeks ago bought the wife a D80 18-55 VR kit from Jessops. I was so impressed with the D80 I went and bought one for myself the following weekend.

There doesn't seem to be much in it IQ wise between the D60 and D80, but to hold and use the D80 is in a different class. The three main reasons I'm glad I upgraded are -

1) D80 is bigger and more comfortable for me to hold than the D60
2) No AF restriction on non AF-S lenses (much larger choice of SH lenses)
3) I couldn't live without the top LCD screen now I have one!

I sold my D60 body for £200, bought the D80 + 18-55VR for £430. I then sold the lens for £90, so upgrading the body cost me £140 - which was absolutely worth every penny...

The only concern I have is that above ISO 800 the D80 isn't great, but that isn't an issue for me as I've not yet had the need to go below 800 anyway (yet)...

If you haven't already go to Jessops and compare a D40/D80 side by side, but if its pure IQ your interested then you will probably make the biggest gains by just replacing the glass you have at the moment instead. On the other hand switching to a D80 will mean you can buy great quality second hand lenses in future a lot more easily...

HTH.
 
A.Gibson said:
no offense but please read the post full
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I did read it, and I'm not offended - my point stands.

With a 18-55 kit lens its not the body holding you back.

The D80 menus will be the same - it does have more controls on the body but not really a huge amount. What settings are you needing to change all the time?
 
:woot: thank you for that psenior1.lol thats the advice i was looking for thank you.
im not fussed about the IQ to be honest as im happy with the IQ on the d40 im just looking for something without the restrictions of the d40. :thumbs:
 
puddleduck said:
I did read it, and I'm not offended - my point stands.

With a 18-55 kit lens its not the body holding you back.

The D80 menus will be the same - it does have more controls on the body but not really a huge amount. What settings are you needing to change all the time?
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things like the ISO, WB and metering. i wont be using the 18-55 kit lens when i get the Sigma 18-200 and the Sigma 70-300 and these are adequate for me at the moment, oh and will be getting the nikkor 50mm f1.4 af-s soon too.:D
 
I have the D40 and have the following lenses:

Tamron 17-50mm f2.8
Sigma 30mm f1.4
Nikon 50mm f1.8
Sigma 105mm f2.8 Macro

I've also used extensively the Nikon 55-200mm VR and 70-300mm VR lenses.

IMHO the lenses have added to my enjoyment and through growing and learning with them I feel that I'm now ready for a step-up body-wise. IMHO the D80 is an upgrade however it would probably be a stepping stone.

The real upgrade (at this time) would be to something like a D90/D300.
 
Having owned a D80 until fairly recently and a D300 since July this year, I can say that if I could go back in time with the knowledge that I have now, I would have kept the money in my pocket and continued to enjoy the D80. It is a great camera.

Perhaps it would be again to advise that you will find yourself with a desire for fast glass and that your body may still be fine for another year. Perhaps then you go for the D400 (or the D90 replacment). Wish I'd listened.

Chris
 
Tulipone said:
Having owned a D80 until fairly recently and a D300 since July this year, I can say that if I could go back in time with the knowledge that I have now, I would have kept the money in my pocket and continued to enjoy the D80. It is a great camera.
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Why's that Chris?

Interested in your thoughts...

Steve
 
i think i could still use the d40 for another year and this is why ive posted as i was unsure about upgrading and if it would be worth it or not, ill have a trip to jessops at the weekend and compare i think but i have a feeling i may come back empty handed.lol
 
Because I am around 900quid worse off with some gain. Almost immediately I realised that the gain was desire rather than tangible and wanted to flog the D300. The best offer was around 250 quid less than I paid, that is pretty rapid depreciation in two or three weeks and probably 500 shutter activations.

If I'd paid 900 for a decent lens, maybe I'd have lost 90 - but my pictures and satisfaction would have been higher. I'd still have the desire for the better body, but I would not have lost much more on the D80 than I did (and I'd probably now have a D90).

Understand what it is that you are trying to put right and then spend what you need to to achieve it. Try not to get lost in lust.

Chris

Afternote: A D40 is not going to sell for anything that makes it worth while.
 
very true.
if i did get another body i wouldnt sell the d40 as its a very good camera dont get me wrong i love it but it has a few restrictions that i didnt think of when i bought it, it would be kept as a second body, a just in case type of thing.lol
 
I love my D80 though I wish I would have held out for another week or so & get the D90. I really want one bad. I think I can return it since it is still under 90 days, but I love it alot.
 
LA-AL said:
I love my D80 though I wish I would have held out for another week or so & get the D90. I really want one bad.
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Why. You really need to take shaky videos? The price of the D80s in the UK is fantastic for a great camera.

Do you really get that much more for the extra bucks?

Chris
 
I'm going to Spain on Saturday and WAS going to get a D90 kit duty free for around the £600 mark. However last thursday I managed to pick up a refurb from clear-r-gear for £499. I'm hoping to sell the lens so I should be looking at an end result of having spent about £350for a D90 body.:clap::clap::clap:
So that's an alternative for you (if you can get one).
I'm now waiting for a refurb D700.:naughty:
I see they sold a kit for £1300 in November -I asked if they would be getting anymore and was told probably the New Year now.
 
I`d say go for the D80.
There are a lot of differences, not least that it has a bigger body and inbuilt focus motor. it also has a bigger sensor and more AF points.
I doubt you would immediately see much difference in IQ on the majority of shots from your D40, but the difference is quite definately there, but, ease of use ( better layout of buttons) and quicker access to menus by dedicated buttons was what you were after, and I think you will get this with the D80 as well as bracketing and depth-of-field preview and gone will be those fixed exposure steps.
You also get a status LCD and a little less viewfinder black out time which makes the camera seem faster.
IMO a worthy upgrade, and a lovely camera to use.
Allan
 
Im with puddleduck, get more glass. An increase in lens quality will equal an increase in photography pleasure.
Why not look at some f2.8 fast glass or a macro lens? I think upgrading to a body of similar standard is pointless. You could save more pennies and get a decent second hand body for cheap, or a newer model new when they release the latest upgrade
 
not really too fussed about ''fast glass'' at the moment its not really the photography pleasure that bothers me honestly as i enjoy every minute of it, im very happy with the quality of the lenses that i have (and am getting) im no pro and nor will i ever be so this quality is ok for me, i just feel the d40 is easy to use in all the auto modes and not so easy to use in P,S,A and M modes due to its lack of dials, if you no were im coming from?lol
ideally i could do with upgrading to a d200 or d300 but i cant afford the if im honest.

might just do that sometime ''daftbugga'' thanks.:thumbs:
 
certainly is good to have new stuff, but I wouldn't rule out going second hand. You'll save yourself a fair bit that could go towards better glass, or maybe even towards that D300 we all know you really want :lol: Or, you could spend the same amount and have something better than a D80.......
 
Tulipone said:
Why. You really need to take shaky videos? The price of the D80s in the UK is fantastic for a great camera.

Do you really get that much more for the extra bucks?

Chris
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I was just looking at the video option in one package. I have a video camera but it is dying on me.The D80 prices are great here in the states too. As a matter of fact, the priced dropped big time a week or so after I bought mine.

For the money I spent in that week or so until it came out, i could of had it, just not with all the accessories I bought.
 
dont get me wanting a d300 more than i already do please.lol i cant afford that for deff.lol
 
one more thing.... will the 2 Sigma lenses im getting, the 18-200mm f3.5-6.3DC OS HSM and the 70-300mm f4.0-5.6 DG macro HSM, will they work ok on the d80? or will they be any different?

thanks
Gibbo
 
as above post, can anyone help on this matter??
 
They will work fine on any of Nikon's DX offerings (not sure about the FF D700/D3/D3x).
 
good good i was hoping they would be ok.lol dont mind them not working properly on ff sensors as i will never be able to afford one.lol
 
final question on this. is the d80 worth upgrading from a d40? and is it to late to but this now as its been taken over buy the d90?
thanks
Gibbo.
 
sdb123 said:
The D80 + kit lens is on offer in Jessops for £391.
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this is what ive had my eye on :thumbs: also if i get it ill sell the 18-55vr on here with all my d40 gear to make the money back. so if anyone wants a good starter kit including a couple of lenses bag tripod filters and stuff let me no.lol
 
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