What Nick Griffin really said last night...

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hes now issued a complaint against the bbc for the show last night....... he wonders why people follow him round like a lynch mob when hes such a low life racist slug,
 
without wanting to seem like i support the BNP (i most definitely do not) the show was definitely done to set NG up, which is a disgraceful act from the BBC.

however, NG was the only one who was not playing up to the audience. look at his body language - he looked directly at everyone who was talking, he looked directly at those asking him questions, and he looked directly at those he was answering. everyone else looked at the whole audience which is completely disrespectful.

that american woman was exhibiting some seriously insulting body language yet made herself out as impartial to race, beliefs and such.
 
I've no truck with Nick Griffin either, I despise most politicians. :)
However, the lynch mob, the hostile audience . . . just too well orchestrated to be random voices of reason.
Hopefully the bandleaders of these protest scenarios will surface and we'll see which organisation is really trying to stifle free speech.
 
It's was a audience selected because they would not like what NG said, it WAS NOT a representative audience.

NG has there right right to appear on the show just as much as UKIP or Green Party.

NG was to only person who was really willing to debate immigration.

He was shouted down for saying things that are clearly true, for example he said that many people find it creepy when the see two men kissing in public. It's not homophobic to state facts, I don't like to see men kissing and would wager there are a large amount of men on here who feel the same, but of course we are not allowed to say that.


It would have been far better in NG had been allowed to finish all his comments without intruption, so we could make our own minds up and not be told again by the establishment what we have to think.


I do not support the BNP and would not vote for them even as a protect.
 
personally i think it was completely unfair. i always thought the host of a discussion program was supposed to be unbiased.

sorry to say this, but notice how many coloured people were allowed to attack NG, but look at how many caucasian people weren't allowed to target that person representing Muslims...

Steve Smith said:
He does not have an automatic right to appear on the show. Guests are there by invitation of the producers.


Steve.
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sorry Steve, but he has as much right to be there as Jack Straw does to represent Labour... who have so much more blood on their hands than NG does.
 
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Totally agree He was set-up but did he really expect a fair and equal discussion? I too hate 99% of politicians as they are all liars and only in it for themselves ie expenses etc.
But although people don't like what NG has to say there is an element of truth in what he says regarding imigration etc so he will continue to get more and more voters until Labour etc do their job and sort this hole of a country out.
Labour is to blame for the state of this country and shame on them!
 
recrudesce said:
personally i think it was completely unfair. i always thought the host of a discussion program was supposed to be unbiased.

sorry to say this, but notice how many coloured people were allowed to attack NG, but look at how many caucasian people weren't allowed to target that person representing Muslims...



sorry Steve, but he has as much right to be there as Jack Straw does to represent Labour... who have so much more blood on their hands than NG does.
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Here Here! well said!
 
Dimbleby always calls guests to account when they misrepresent the facts, and Griffin was definitely doing that.

I hope that people will see him for what he really is through things like this programme but the risk was always going to be that he would gain sympathy from those who would like to agree with him as long as nobody calls them a racist homophobic bigot.

He made a fool of himself, but the politicians were trying to shout him down rather than prove him wrong. The Tory spokesman put up the best debate of all the politicians, but her distaste for homosexuals still showed through, still she did a good job till then.

The best of the night was Bonnie Greer, who had every reason to despise him but tackled him on the facts.
 
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to be honest it does have an air of jeremy kyle bear baiting about it. but i think that regardless of who was in the audience the majority of the questioners would probably be anti-BNP and the majority of the questions would have been on the same topic with the same views/questions to the panel.

nick griffin answered some questions quite well, however some of his answers were quite frankly laughable and some of the things he chuckled and laughed about were not things that should be laughed about especially infront of an audience of people.
 
Everyone knew it was going to be Nick Griffin vs Everyone else.

Some of the points he makes are completely valid. Things that he stands for, I stand for too.
For example, why is there a mobo awards, or a black celebration day when there is not a white celebration day?
Also, why do companies/businesses have to employ a certain amount of ethnic minorities?
Screw the minorities, employ the person who is fit for the job! Employ the person who is best at the job, irrelevant of skin colour!

Now I know it's not wholly the way it is, but it seems there are certain things you cannot say for fear of a torch and pitchfork attitude.
I just watched Nick Griffin on Barack Obama, and while I feel Obama is the best thing to happen to america in the past decade, Nick Griffin made a valid point about employment. He said something along the lines of, "If an under-qualified black person does not get a job, they may feel discriminated against and make a fuss".
I hate that way of thinking, relating again to the point I made above.

But all these previously valid points are just completely shrouded in a horribly narrow-minded way of think which disgusts me.

Once again, to the point of feeling uncomfortable about 2 guys kissing, he went on to basically say gay people should be confined to their houses, and then made up some rubbish about 'militant homosexuals preaching gayness to our children'. Just a disgusting, narrow minded individual.

No doubt the mods will be along shortly to sweep this under the rug, we're not allowed to discuss politics :p
 
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foodpoison said:
Once again, to the point of feeling uncomfortable about 2 guys kissing, he went on to basically say gay people should be confined to their houses, and then made up some rubbish about 'militant homosexuals preaching gayness to our children'. Just a disgusting, narrow minded individual.
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I don't particularly want to see anybody playing tonsil hockey when I'm walking down the street, but I've as much right to do it with my partner as any heterosexual couple.

No doubt most of the blokes that claim it disgusts them would like to see two attractive women doing it and see no hypocrisy in that.


foodpoison said:
No doubt the mods will be along shortly to sweep this under the rug, we're not allowed to discuss politics :p
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No bad thing, I can see views on here are pretty polarised.
 
whiteflyer said:
NG was to only person who was really willing to debate immigration.
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I think this is precisely why the BNP has gained some support particularly in certain parts of the country. If the three main parties were prepared to address the issue of immigration, I would imagine the BNP would become irrelevant. The government and the media, to an extent, have created a situation whereby a person is automatically labelled as being racist simply because he/she wishes to discuss immigration.

I did watch Question Time and there's no doubt there are BNP policies which need to be questioned, but having the audience and the panel constantly interrupting and shouting down at him may possibly have helped Griffin's cause rather than put people off voting for him.
 
*Sighs and gives up* :shrug:

Mods - close at will - the point has largely been missed by most... :bonk:
 
irw1 said:
*Sighs and gives up* :shrug:

Mods - close at will - the point has largely been missed by most... :bonk:
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Sorry, yes it is a great bit of editing considering how quickly he got it done and how little material he had.

It isn't as good as the Alan Sugar one, but he had months to do that and loads of footage.
 
Let's face it the majority in this country (IMHO) are afraid to express what they think because of the PC brigade and the corrupt politicians of all sides.

There is an imigration issue but it is a complex issue that needs to be debated openly and HONESTLY but there's little chance of that happening.

Face it the country is ******ed and everyone who has failed to express their true opinions has a part in this.
 
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just wrote this on my FB page:

All these people who hate Nick Griffin and his ideals are giving him even more airtime by making and promoting "funny" Youtube videos and mentioning him every 5 minutes on Twitter. if you don't like him why are you promoting him ?! (Disclaimer: i am NOT a BNP supporter and never will be, just ****es me off that people are so contradictory...)
i shall be voting Conservative to 1: keep BNP out, and 2: get ****ing Labour out of the door. i will take an active interest in politics to remove these two diseases that are bringing the United Kingdom down and making it the laughing stock of the EU.

the United Kingdom needs to have it's faith in the Government restored. Labour is not doing us any good. they've lied and deceived the British people for over 12 years and we're too scared to grow some balls and kick them out of the door. the immigration problem is entirely the fault of the Labour government. note that Jack Straw have had 3 different jobs since Labour got in power, which leads me to believe he's been **** at all of them.

2 people you should not be voting for: 1: BNP, 2: Labour.
 
Rozzy said:
if body language is part of the discussion here, did nobody noticed Mr Griffin shaking so much had had to hold his hands together so it wouldnt show as much?
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yes, no matter what a person stands for, it's disrespectful for anyone to make another person feel scared of their own kind.

i want to say SO much about this whole situation - i applaud foodpoison for saying what he's said. however there's a fine line between saying what you feel about the whole situation and being classed as a BNP supporter when you actually aren't.
 
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Carl, if the man in the street can see the real problems with Immigration then why the hell can't the people running the country? Its only common sense that we are a very small island compared to the size of the countries most immigrants are coming from and even before Labour decided to open all doors and welcome anyone with open arms the country was struggling ie NHS, Jobs, Housing, crime so why let more people add to the problem? This country is sinking fast and the sooner we all wake up and say enough's enough and close all borders the sooner we might be able to restore the damage done.
If wanting your country to remain your country is being a racist then I must be one, It used to be called a Patriot in the good old days!
I was mugged by 2 asylum seekers in Bradford before I headed North of the border to live(broken nose, 3" scar and cracked rib) they had been welcomed to the UK with open arms Nice eh? all for my mobile phone
 
so the guy who told him to b****r off to the South Pole because it was "a colourless place that would suit [him]" wasn't being racist towards white people ?

racism seems to only work one way it seems.
 
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