What makes an image Creative?

Cagey75 said:
What I mean is, they can't teach you to be naturally creative, they can help, if they chose to [and I mean parents and teachers] bring the best out of what creativity is there. But I don't think you can create, creativity so much.
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No.. you're right. People have a natural creative quota, for want of a better expression. Chances are though, whatever that quota is... life will have beaten most iof it out of you unless you were nurtured in that direction early on in life.

Cagey75 said:
And definitely no pushing on the kiddo, she shall be making a lot of her own decisions, like does she want to attend that dance class? if not, she won't - if she wants to do karate, she will ... etc ... our other, 9yr old, unfortunately doesn't have quite so many choices with her cerebral palsy, but still she does horse riding, swimming and has stronger core muscles than some junior athletes because of all the physio she does. Would try encourage her to go that direction, but again, it's completely up to them.
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Sounds like you have your head screwed on the child rearing dept. :thumbs:
 
We can only do our best, I have a 16yr old daughter too - I guess I learned a lot from my mistakes with her :)
 
Pookeyhead said:
No.. you're right. People have a natural creative quota, for want of a better expression. Chances are though, whatever that quota is... life will have beaten most iof it out of you unless you were nurtured in that direction early on in life.
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Not always though. The chain gangs of old weren't educated at all, let alone "creatively nurtured", and they endured some of the harshest conditions imaginable but they still expressed themselves through songs they wrote to reflect their hardship.

The same can be said of others, too. Poet Ellis Humphrey Evans (Hedd Wyn), for example, had a very basic education (north-west Wales around 1900, gulp!) and lived a modest, hard-working life as a farmer before he was killed during WW1 yet some of his best poetry was written during his time in the army - the most miserable time of his life.

In fact, I think that life's beatings often makes bloody good art.
 
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If I may interrupt this thread to inject a little light humour, I think the forum has given us the answer....

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As you were.
 
Yv said:
If I may interrupt this thread to inject a little light humour, I think the forum has given us the answer....

talking3.jpg


;)


As you were.
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Shouldn't be allowed. The Mods have lost it!
 
Yv said:
If I may interrupt this thread to inject a little light humour, I think the forum has given us the answer....

talking3.jpg


;)


As you were.
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Set it on fire and swing it around? :thinking:
 
PMN said:
Not sure fiery swinging dog food would work, maybe if it were HDR just to bring the tones out and introduce a 70 pixel wide halo or two? :bonk:
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:D

I got it - picture this: (Plain white BG) a cat dressed as a mouse eating out of the dog food can?

Title: "Dog food can't".

*mops brow*

:D
 
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I am not sure you can call what a young child does creative. It is just what they do.

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munch said:
I am not sure you can call what a young child does creative. It is just what they do.

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Yeh, just what they do is be creative.

Anyway, its supposed to be what makes an image Creative, not a person.
 
munch said:
I am not sure you can call what a young child does creative. It is just what they do.

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Well... think about it. They can play happily with a cardboard box for hours, making up all kinds of stuff.. it's a castle, a cave, a palace... they hold conversations for ages with imaginary friends... they draw and paint things we wouldn't even dream of creating without the aid of narcotics :).. They know no bounds... they just do stuff.

Most adults would be thinking.. can't do that.... it's stupid. Can't do that, it breaks this rule, or that rule... can't do that, people will laugh at me.

They listen to, and embrace their imagination, and they are original. They haven't been told what's possible and what's not yet.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I wish you wouldn't edit a quote by adding your own text, because it makes it almost impossible to quote you.
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Why do you think I did it? :bonk:


Pookeyhead said:
That's where I leave you alone then. If you're childish enough to be amused by calling people names, then you're simply not worthy of my attention, and certainly not my intellectual equal, or that of the others in here debating this in an adult, rationale manner.
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I didn't realise I had to be as po-faced as you. Sorry. I'm used to typing as I speak, colloquially, on other forums. I'll try to revert to the measured tones of academe and forsake the common utterances of the pub.

So you'll only debate with your intellectual equals? That's rather elitist. It's that attitude which is what I'm dead against. If you want the arts to be appreciated widely you can't go around sneering at those who you think are beneath your level of intelligence. If you only educate those who want educating nothing will change. The 'plebs' will carry on thinking all the arts are high-flown, esoteric rubbish.

Pookeyhead said:
It's people like you who get serious debate threads closed by reducing it to name calling and childish tit for tat bull****.
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I've never got a thread closed or been given 'time off from this forum'... And stop that swearing! :p

Pookeyhead said:
Maybe that's your raison d'etre: Get it closed because it makes you uncomfortable, because you may have to face some home truths about your own worth as a creative. Good Bye Ed.
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Now who's getting personal? :D

I don't want the thread closed for any reason. Just because you currently work in education doesn't mean you have a monopoly on defining creativity. As you said earlier, not everyone knows everything.

I'm not presumptuous enough to consider myself 'a creative' so have no need for anyone to measure my 'worth' as one. I'm just a bloke who uses a camera to make pictures. I do it for myself, for my own reasons.

As someone else said earlier, the trouble with forums is that you can't see facial gestures. Lighten up man. :)

Oh, you have. :thumbs:

Pookeyhead said:
Worked for Keith Arnatt... kind of :)
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A bloke, using a camera to make pictures = being creative. No? ;)

That's all I see myself as too. It's what I want to answer when people ask "are you a photomatographer?" I just say "aye, I guess" - it's easier.
 
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