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Okay, so I am just watching a recording of the Channel 4 program "Picture This" again. Only cos nothing else decent on Sky+ (how sad!)

Anyway, I have come to the bit where Aron Brown has begun to explain his idea for his Brighton portrait.

For those that did not see it, let me explain:

Six amateur togs have been selected to take pictures. Aron Brown is possibly the most controversial - his pictures include an old woman with "Do not feed the elderley" signage and a wheelchair turned over on a fishing jetty entitled "Oops!". Not great pictures either technically nor interestingly in my opinion.

Aron is preparing to take a picture in Brighton (this is what the contestants have been assigned).

He finds a piece of cardboard and a skipped wooden stick and attempts to make a sign that will form part of his picture.

The sign will say: THE CHILDREN DANCE BECAUSE OF THEIR ADDICTION TO CRACK


Right then - its not the program I wanted to discuss, nor Aron Brown really, but I wanted to know what you thought of Aron's comment that was used to build this section of the programme:

"I use that phrase simply because I think that it is what a lot of people think when they walk past homeless people or street performers - their probably dancing because of their addiction to crack"

Am interested in what the majority of people here think about that - certainly I can say that I have never once seen anybody homeless, nor a street performer and thought that they were there because of their addiction to crack!"

Note: Am interested in the comment, not that fact that Aron took a picture of the sign and then photoshopped it into his final image with (what appeared like) no consent from the models
 
Aron Brown said:
I use that phrase simply because I think that it is what a lot of people think when they walk past homeless people or street performers - their probably dancing because of their addiction to crack

:cuckoo:
Sounds like he's been smokin it himself!

Fair enough, many homeless people may have a substance problem of one sort or another but I've never seen a tramp dancing and I've never thought street entertainer's were on crack. Annoying, yes. Crackheads, no :D
 
Didn't see the program so not too sure what it was all about.:shrug:
Gotta agree with Willy though, have never thought street entertainers were on crack:shrug::eek:
This chap sounds a bit of an a**e
 
I Find it kinda sad that photographers given the opportunity to advance the medium instead chose to advance extreme political/social opinion. The great social recorders (Salgado, Evans, Smith etc) worked in a far more empathetic and responsible way, and did not need to rely on "shock jock journalism"
 
Aint seen the prog but the boy does sound a bit of a tw** by the brief bits written here. That said, he is only using the medium of photography to express his views and opinions and yeh maybe thay are meant to be provocotive or even obnoxcious. Would you be so alarmed at someones opinion or view stated in a song, poem, film or painting? I don't think so.

You don't have to agree with the points being made but if it is defined as art in what ever form it's presented (and to me photography comes under this banner), respect must be given to this and good on the fella for stating his views. If he is just doing it for self indulgent reasons, then yeh he is a t****r but witout seeing the prog I can't judge.

It'd be a pretty boring f****d up world if we all saw things in the same way and didn't have the right, freedom and ability to express ourselves as individuals. Photography is a way for all of us on here to do this to some extent.

OK, that's me finished. I'm off to shave my head, join a Buddist colony and eat sand for the rest of my life.:gag:
 
Agree with you Brash that photography is a medium to get your point through. What I was asking, however, was do you agree with Aron who thinks "most people" think these people are dancing for crack.

If Aron has said "I think" these people are dancing for crack then I would just dismissed him as being ignorant and merely getting his poorly judged point across - my interest was what "most people" thought.
 
I watched the program and wanted to slap Aron. Fair enough you can use your work to convey your opinions/feelings, but judging a whole group of people and saying thats what "most people" think isn't acceptable IMO.
 
Agree with you Brash that photography is a medium to get your point through. What I was asking, however, was do you agree with Aron who thinks "most people" think these people are dancing for crack.

If Aron has said "I think" these people are dancing for crack then I would just dismissed him as being ignorant and merely getting his poorly judged point across - my interest was what "most people" thought.

Sorry Vinny, I seemed to have strayed from the point of your question a bit. I think a lot of peoples perspective of the homeless are they are there because of drugs and if you class buskers as street performers, yeh a lot of them too and I tend to agree. I take this from my own professional experience in and around Aberdeen and other Scottish cities.

I don't think the stilted man or morris dancers at fairs and that type of entertainers are generally considered to be on crack (tho morris dancers must be on something:)).

I think as a general statement, the fella's view reflects a society's opinion on a culture cancerous with drugs. The more I think about it the more I feel it is a sad inditment that our children only dance because they are on crack. Maybe I'm looking too deeply into it.

Oh s**t, have I answered you question now or strayed off again. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! my brain hurts:lol:
 
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