What is the big fuss about Leica

Topsy said:
If that was the case all the other manufacturers of V Twin Cruisers wouldn't have bothered to copy them. ;) And yes I ride Harleys.
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I did say it was my personal opinion; I ride a Triumph Sprint ST.

Oh, and if you have a spare day, my local farmers tractor has broken down, perhaps you could help? ;) :) ;) :) :D
 
trypdal said:
Disclaimer: never owned a Leica but don't see anything wrong in them.

Must admit I don't understand the perspective outlined by the poster above and the fact that people who hold this view tend to focus on Leica cameras. Some people seem to wilfully ignore the fact that Leica cameras have also intrinsic ergonomic, optical and mechanical qualities that make them especially suitable for certain types of photography.

Also, in relative terms, a used Leica rangefinder is not that expensive compared to what some people are prepared to spend on photography nowadays.

There are people out there who wouldn't bat an eyelid in dropping 5K or 6K on the latest Nikon Z or Canon whatever mirrorless monstrosity with ultra-mega-photonic phase AI AF with the latest f/0.95 Lanthanium glass to get the best 'bOhKeh'.

Then you look at their pictures and it's images of a picket fence, a sparrow in the feeder or a slow-mo waterfall in the Peak District, which had never been photographed before in history. And that's fair enough. But I don't see posts written about overpriced DSLRS and mirrorless cameras that often.

Just let other people be. One man's status symbol is another man's perfectly functional tool.
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Please don't cherry-pick the bits of text that fit your response, the whole sentence says:

People buy really expensive things sometimes because they don't know what else to do with their money, sometimes it's because they want to show off how much money they have, but often, I surmise, it's because they can.

It is a small list of reasons why people buy expensive things, any expensive thing, not just Leica cameras, and not a dig at anyone who can afford a Leica, or a Z9, or a Ferrari, or a super-yacht.
 
It's a fixed 28mm lens and seems to rather be an expensive version of the Fuji X100V, although at f1.7 it's a little faster. I had an X100V and it was very nice but the lens was 35mm equivalent and I wish it too had been (equiv) 28mm or even 24mm.
 
Leica? Well it's all simple for me as I don't like 35mm range finder or twin lens reflex...............cameras. For me you can't beat WYSIWYG cameras
 
ShinySideUp said:
It's a fixed 28mm lens and seems to rather be an expensive version of the Fuji X100V, although at f1.7 it's a little faster. I had an X100V and it was very nice but the lens was 35mm equivalent and I wish it too had been (equiv) 28mm or even 24mm.
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It does look nice but then I remember that I prefer 35 or 50 to 28mm and if I want small and discrete and 28mm I have my Panasonic GX80 with 14mm f2.5 giving a FF equivalent 28mm FoV. Some would never consider such a cheap set up as a Leica substitute but it is small, light and quite capable and modest.
 
That Q3 seems to occupy a pretty unique position in terms of type; a full frame AF compact camera with a fast fixed WA lens. The closest I can find is a Sony RX1M2, which doesn't seem to be available for sale other than grey importers. 35mm f2 Zeiss Sonnar T* lens, 42mp. Seems to be about half the price anyway. Anything else has a smaller sensor.

I can see the appeal. The price is typically Leica. If I wanted something similar right now, I could put a 26mm lens on my Nikon Z6 and have something only marginally bigger, yet a lot more versatile. I appreciate I'm not the target market for such a thing though. That market is clearly pretty tiny, given the number of such camera types produced in full frame at least. Perhaps this will stimulate interest in that particular niche. But over £5k for a posh compact...

£200 for a lens hood, or a lump of machined aluminium that seems to compensate for poor ergonomics. Wow.
 
Here a typical review of the Q2:

www.digitalcameraworld.com

Leica Q2 review

We get to try out the 47-megapixel Leica Q2 compact camera. This is our verdict, with lab test results…
www.digitalcameraworld.com www.digitalcameraworld.com

Considering the Q3 has some serious updates like the sensor from the M11, flip out screen, image processor & fantastic lens it sounds amazing for only £200 more than the Q2!
 
I must admit that I could easily have succumbed today. I came across a Leica body at our local antique and bric a brac fair. If it wasn't for the fact that I don't know anything about them, and I would have to spend as much again for the lens I might have taken the plunge.
 
trypdal said:
There are people out there who wouldn't bat an eyelid in dropping 5K or 6K on the latest Nikon Z or Canon whatever mirrorless monstrosity with ultra-mega-photonic phase AI AF with the latest f/0.95 Lanthanium glass to get the best 'bOhKeh'.

Then you look at their pictures and it's images of a picket fence, a sparrow in the feeder or a slow-mo waterfall in the Peak District, which had never been photographed before in history. And that's fair enough. But I don't see posts written about overpriced DSLRS and mirrorless cameras that often.
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trypdal said:
Just let other people be. One man's status symbol is another man's perfectly functional tool.
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:LOL:
 
woof woof said:
I can see the attraction to the mechanical cameras and lenses in their build and tactility and the feel and joy of handling and using them, both old and new. I've never had one, I went for other much cheaper film cameras and lenses and ditto with todays mirrorless cameras which I sometimes use old just metal and glass mechanical film era lenses on. I do see the attraction but I don't buy into the Leica look and brand worship and paying way over the odds for a rebranded Panasonic just seems crazy to me as Panasonic make good enough cameras and lenses themselves but "Leica" and "Made In Germany" seem to be attractive additions to the label on the bottom despite the sometimes serious issues with design and build which have cropped up from time to time.
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:LOL:

See? I can also play this little game of searching a member's history to make no meaningful point at all! Fun ;)

PS: if you're upset at something I wrote or you disagree with it, it's polite, where I come from, to address the offending comment directly, and not sift through a person's comment history in search for something, anything at all, to write a little passive aggressive reply about ;)
 
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I'm surprised this thread is still growing.

I'll be honest about aggressive verbage between two or more contributors, I think it's great! Hugely entertaining.
Every so often I feel like letting of a bit of steam about things I feel passion for or strongly about. It's a good thing.
There's nothing better than letting of a bit of steam to someone who can't punch your teeth out (unless you're dim enough to give them your address)
In my experience of other, and I hasten to add, lesser forums, the banter eventually dies out and everything gets back to normal.

I'm not keen on rude words though.
 
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