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I'm sure I'm not alone when I say this, but what happened? Why is TP lacking in stunning shots that make you want to get out there with your camera? I'm sorry but in the past month or so its been full of random photos. I haven't really commented on anything because its been a bit of a let down. I read practically every thread via RSS its not like I haven't been paying attention. Now I'm not saying beginners shouldn't be posting. I'm saying that the really top people don't appear to be. C'mon, stop hiding. Were are all the great landscapes, portraits and so on?
 
Well I dont consider myself a "top" person but must admit I have posted anything for a while. I have been busy on a few projects so I will try my best to post some new shots over the next few days.

I do agree though Pete there hasnt been alot around recently that has really blown my socks off.
 
I dunno, Himupnorths aerial shots always look great and you've posted one or two half decent images m8, there are others too. There's far too many overprocessed mediocre shots around recently, but that's your fault, you introduced hdr to the masses ;)
 
Christmas happened
Even the most dedicated shooters gotta slow down a bit, you can't shoot nothin at Toys'R'Us, Argos and your Auntie Edith's.
Then theres the pub, damn sales, New Year, Birthdays and jibber jabberin on here....any spare time is spent with eyes shut knockin out zeds..:shrug:
 
LadyLens said:
Yep, its your fault pete, simple as that! :naughty: ;)


Dunno, as I said in another thread, seems it almost the wrong time of year for a few of us, just really restless yet unable to settle into some really good picture taking :shrug:
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I'm itching to get out and take some more landscapes, but without a fully functioning body (thats the camera, not me :) ) I'm a bit stuffed.

It is Christmas, people have allot on. Priorities change around this time of the year perhaps!
 
There hasn't been very many 'special' pictures that i've seen, there have been one or two that i've thought wow, but that is it. Come on, get out and about with those cameras!
I also don't understand why people instead of giving useful criticisms on pictures say "great shot" it's not helpful and does nothing to improve the persons photography.
 
chewyuk said:
I think it's called expansion !
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Surely if we expanded the old wow factor posters would still be around? My point was that they don't seem to be. Its not like they're getting flooded by bad photos, I'm just not seeing good ones. Maybe it is the time of year, but theres still a few photo ops :)
 
Blackstar said:
I also don't understand why people instead of giving useful criticisms on pictures say "great shot" it's not helpful and does nothing to improve the persons photography.
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I will often say this because I don't feel that I have I have enough experience to offer "useful criticsms: on that particular image!

Sorry if it does not improve there photography, but I can still think its a "great shot":thumbs:

Spence
 
You could always lead by example Pete and show the others what they should be doing.
 
spencer said:
I will often say this because I don't feel that I have I have enough experience to offer "useful criticsms: on that particular image!

Sorry if it does not improve there photography, but I can still think its a "great shot":thumbs:

Spence
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I mean on pictures that aren't great ;) the ones that could really use some sort of improvement and help, i know very little about the technicalities of photography (i'm here as a friend and sometimes subject of petemc) but i do know what i like and what i think looks good. :)
 
petemc said:
Surely if we expanded the old wow factor posters would still be around? My point was that they don't seem to be. Its not like they're getting flooded by bad photos, I'm just not seeing good ones. Maybe it is the time of year, but theres still a few photo ops :)
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But are they still around? Not the point of the thread maybe..but I think allot have been suffering from posting fatigue.
 
Blackstar said:
I mean on pictures that aren't great ;) the ones that could really use some sort of improvement and help, i know very little about the technicalities of photography (i'm here as a friend and sometimes subject of petemc) but i do know what i like and what i think looks good. :)
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Well, if I know of a way to improve a bad shot, then without doubt I will most certainly try to offer some sort of advice.
But thats not always the case,
If I like the look of a shot then I will quite often say "its a good shot".:thumbs:
(Hope that make sense?)

Spence
 
digitalfailure said:
You could always lead by example Pete and show the others what they should be doing.
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I was, till someone changed the forum images size rule :p The forum read my RSS feed, and when TP moved up to larger images, so did I. But now they're back down and I don't want to screw around with my user base. So I'm a bit stuck. Well, not really stuck as I could make the effort but it was nice :)
 
I posted a pic this afternoon but as usual there are plenty of people looking but no one commenting. This is why I very rarely post pictures these days, when you have spent ages trying to post process a pic and no one comments its a bit soul destroying.

Oh well we live and learn!
 
I've got shots taken from September through to today sitting on my drive because I've lost all interest in post processing
 
rwotton said:
I posted a pic this afternoon but as usual there are plenty of people looking but no one commenting. This is why i very rarely post pictures these days, when you have spent ages trying to post process a pic and no one comments its a bit sole destroying.

Oh well we live and learn!
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Got to agree with you Rob. If you get 2 or 3 comments your very lucky at the mo. So many pics fall off the radar so quickly. I used to spend my time putting comments on posts with only 2 or 3, but now it would be a full time job - though I do try.

I agree with Pete though - the inspirational work of some of the guys mentioned is a loss, but there are still some fantastic pics coming through. You just need to pick through some of the others. (Like mine :D)

Allan
 
rwotton said:
I posted a pic this afternoon but as usual there are plenty of people looking but no one commenting. This is why I very rarely post pictures these days, when you have spent ages trying to post process a pic and no one comments its a bit soul destroying.

Oh well we live and learn!
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I posted five pics this afternoon of a location I found by chance from pictures taken of the location and posted on here by another TP member cause I read and commented on his pictures. I got one comment on them from someone I talk to quite often but nothing else.

I like them, do I assume that others dont from the lack of comment. Alternatively I could take the lack of comment as meaning they are good, though I doubt that. But I will continue to taken pictures regardless although the pictures I take might be better with some feedback.

:thinking: :shrug:
 
Maybe the majority of viewers here, are new and dont feel qualified to comment much past "great shot"
I dont think its a good idea to exclude those people or suggest their comments are not valid, however throw away.
Or maybe that has allready happened.
I mean if its not in the smash it to bits critique thread, its available for anything isn't it ?
If your looking for constructive feedback only, it should be in smash it to bits..? I dunno..

chicken & egg moment
 
Pete, You put your feet up and take a break m8 you deserve it.

:)
 
I tend to throw away some Images If I don't feel would work as a lively shot or the weather goes bad or my bike smashes again.:lol:

Maybe the majority of viewers here, are new and dont feel qualified to comment much past "great shot"
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Sometimes I don't know what else to say If I don't think theres anything wrong with the shot I agree with that. If I find anything I'd say.

The Edinburgh Images though good as they are wouldn't exactly make many want to get out with their camera though either.
 
Blackstar said:
I also don't understand why people instead of giving useful criticisms on pictures say "great shot" it's not helpful and does nothing to improve the persons photography.
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I'm guilty of this as I don't feel as though I have the experience to comment but feel I should post otherwise, I'll become one of those that post photos but doesn't comment. Can't win really
 
Blackstar said:
I also don't understand why people instead of giving useful criticisms on pictures say "great shot" it's not helpful and does nothing to improve the persons photography.
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Maybe the person saying great shot genuinely doesn't have anything to say wrong or any Idea what constructive criticism to give.

So they might just genuinely think It's a great shot while someone else's opinion will differ.

Some people don't judge a photo very well sometimes though.
 
digitalfailure said:
Pete, You put your feet up and take a break m8 you deserve it.

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*sigh* Can't quite take that at face value. I've posted plenty today ffs, showing them how its done if you like after Bod said I should.

Tsukiyomi said:
The Edinburgh Images though good as they are wouldn't exactly make many want to get out with their camera though either.
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What, mine? I wasn't trying to make people go out with their camera. I was trying to capture the scene.
 
petemc said:
What, mine? I wasn't trying to make people go out with their camera. I was trying to capture the scene.
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Well you have posted stunning Images you took ages ago In a compilation but your recent stuff has been scene capturing like you said so you kinda haven't posted anything new and stunning since November's Sefton Park sets yourself.

But like you said, Bod said you should post pics which you did even If they ain't new and fresh. Hopefully they find their own uniqueness through them.
 
I think that everything is opinions, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Some of the time I dont feel I personally know enough about the technical side of a shot to comment on it. So I dont. However, If I look at something and I think that works, that doesnt, then I may post that "I like that shot because of this reason" or "I dont like this shot because of this reason"

I think Its quite harsh that Pete feels there has been no "good images" posted on this forum lately, and I may feel that he is starting to agree with Matt Charlton, about this not being as "Clique" as it was due to the influx of new members.

These are new members who are learning [like myself] who post images [not fantastic] but want someones view.
Someone who is better than I am, someone who I may aspire to be like.

Pete you are doing really well, and you are entitled to your opinion. You personally feel that there are no images on here to wow you anymore.

I personally feel un-wowed by your lack of enthusiasm towards other peoples images.
I hope you're not getting a case of "Im a pro so I'm better than you" attitude. Cos that would be sad to see.




This is just my opinion!
 
Sorry Adele, but I don't feel anywhere in any of my posts in the thread you are referring to said anything to the point of me preferring a "clique" of old. I don't ever remember there being an elite of professional photographers posting fantastic images day in, day out with everyone saying how stunning they were. Its never been like that here.

I too feel that what Pete has posted is harsh, I thought to myself "surely what he's saying here is that anything posted in the last month or so by anyone is pretty much mediocre and not worth commenting on". Maybe thats the case in his opinion.

Theres always been an issue with people not feeling they are "qualified" or a good enough photographer to pass judgement or say whether or not they like a shot when someone posts up an image for comment. Obviously the more members we have that are new to photography means that you just get more people who are worried that they aren't good enough to comment.

I felt like that once, for a few months after I joined. I had to force myself to get over it and started to post on a couple of threads that people created. Soon it was easy, I was able to tell people what I liked about a picture. It was harder to tell people what I didn't like but as long as this is done in a constructive way it can only help the photographer.

Now I haven't commented or posted up any photos for comment for quite a while. I have my own reasons for this which I don't wish to discuss here.

Members, new and old need to overcome the fear of not being good enough to comment on photos and start to say what they do and don't like. If its a great shot, say so. If its not, what would you say the photographer could do differently if they were to try it again.

I don't think that any form of elitism is good, there should be no "I'm better than you, all my shots are great, I can't learn anything" attitudes whatsoever. We're all capable of taking excellent shots and we're all more than capable of taking shots fit for the bin - which is where most of my stuff from the last few months has ended up.
 
Matt Charlton said:
Sorry Adele, but I don't feel anywhere in any of my posts in the thread you are referring to said anything to the point of me preferring a "clique" of old. I don't ever remember there being an elite of professional photographers posting fantastic images day in, day out with everyone saying how stunning they were. Its never been like that here.

I too feel that what Pete has posted is harsh, I thought to myself "surely what he's saying here is that anything posted in the last month or so by anyone is pretty much mediocre and not worth commenting on". Maybe thats the case in his opinion.

Theres always been an issue with people not feeling they are "qualified" or a good enough photographer to pass judgement or say whether or not they like a shot when someone posts up an image for comment. Obviously the more members we have that are new to photography means that you just get more people who are worried that they aren't good enough to comment.

I felt like that once, for a few months after I joined. I had to force myself to get over it and started to post on a couple of threads that people created. Soon it was easy, I was able to tell people what I liked about a picture. It was harder to tell people what I didn't like but as long as this is done in a constructive way it can only help the photographer.

Now I haven't commented or posted up any photos for comment for quite a while. I have my own reasons for this which I don't wish to discuss here.

Members, new and old need to overcome the fear of not being good enough to comment on photos and start to say what they do and don't like. If its a great shot, say so. If its not, what would you say the photographer could do differently if they were to try it again.

I don't think that any form of elitism is good, there should be no "I'm better than you, all my shots are great, I can't learn anything" attitudes whatsoever. We're all capable of taking excellent shots and we're all more than capable of taking shots fit for the bin - which is where most of my stuff from the last few months has ended up.
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Well put Matt that saved me a lot of typing :D:thumbs:
 
I think you are all reading what Pete said wrong imo. He's not saying everybody who posted stuff in the past month is crap and doesnt disserve comments. He's simply stating that in recent times the fantastic photographers who post really good stuff time after time have been notably quiet recently... and I agree with him.
 
Matt Charlton said:
Sorry Adele, but I don't feel anywhere in any of my posts in the thread you are referring to said anything to the point of me preferring a "clique" of old. I don't ever remember there being an elite of professional photographers posting fantastic images day in, day out with everyone saying how stunning they were. Its never been like that here.

I too feel that what Pete has posted is harsh, I thought to myself "surely what he's saying here is that anything posted in the last month or so by anyone is pretty much mediocre and not worth commenting on". Maybe thats the case in his opinion.

Theres always been an issue with people not feeling they are "qualified" or a good enough photographer to pass judgement or say whether or not they like a shot when someone posts up an image for comment. Obviously the more members we have that are new to photography means that you just get more people who are worried that they aren't good enough to comment.

I felt like that once, for a few months after I joined. I had to force myself to get over it and started to post on a couple of threads that people created. Soon it was easy, I was able to tell people what I liked about a picture. It was harder to tell people what I didn't like but as long as this is done in a constructive way it can only help the photographer.

Now I haven't commented or posted up any photos for comment for quite a while. I have my own reasons for this which I don't wish to discuss here.

Members, new and old need to overcome the fear of not being good enough to comment on photos and start to say what they do and don't like. If its a great shot, say so. If its not, what would you say the photographer could do differently if they were to try it again.

I don't think that any form of elitism is good, there should be no "I'm better than you, all my shots are great, I can't learn anything" attitudes whatsoever. We're all capable of taking excellent shots and we're all more than capable of taking shots fit for the bin - which is where most of my stuff from the last few months has ended up.
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What I was stating regarding your origional post Matt and in comparisons with pete, was that both of you were feeling people were "Missing" and didnt "know anyone anymore" thats all.
Thats how it comes across, and that is my opinion.

As a newer member, and I speak to several newer members on MSN [thanks to my msn thread] a lot of people feel that over the last few threads there has seemed to come across some form of eliteism, and that what was a friendly forum, this evening has turned into a riot!

I know its the narky time between christmas and new year. But we have to play fair.

I comment on images, and Im more forthcoming in what I say, in the hope that people can tell me what I can/have done right/wrong and how I can make my images better and improve.

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I almost didnt post my newest images tonight.
 
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