Beginner what can an slr do that a mirrorless can't

So am I....but without being funny have you tried it? In that situation its unworkable
Works for me with my X-E2, I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise.

What would be better is a way of flicking between the exposure preview and the normal EVF, that way you could check the ambient contribution to the exposure on the fly in a way you can't do with a DSLR.
 
As a SLR user of many years standing I find the whole experience of using a CSC incredibly frustrating. It may be the menus, it may be the fiddly nature of the bodies, lack of viewfinder, there are probably a dozen other things which when all combined make using a CSC a real pain. But if you are starting from scratch (almost) you will probably bond with your CSC much quicker and you will probably never miss what you never had!

The only exception to that would probably be - battery life.

My new-ish Panasonic gx7 seems to have battery life of about 3 hours! It may be the way I use it but I find this totally unacceptable. How many spares are you supposed to carry? And at about £50 a pop, carrying spares is a very expensive business.
 
As a SLR user of many years standing I find the whole experience of using a CSC incredibly frustrating. It may be the menus, it may be the fiddly nature of the bodies, lack of viewfinder, there are probably a dozen other things which when all combined make using a CSC a real pain. But if you are starting from scratch (almost) you will probably bond with your CSC much quicker and you will probably never miss what you never had!

The only exception to that would probably be - battery life.

My new-ish Panasonic gx7 seems to have battery life of about 3 hours! It may be the way I use it but I find this totally unacceptable. How many spares are you supposed to carry? And at about £50 a pop, carrying spares is a very expensive business.

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Mostly I feel the oposite.
On purchasing a pair of Olympus E-M5Marrk II bodies I was taken back to the way Ielt about my first SLRs, Pentax SV and Pentax Spotmatics, when it came to handling it. It was a good feeling.
The electonic viewfinder is probably even better as it now has a live histogram. Yes there is a learning curve on the menu system (it can be deep).
Re - the battery life, and I do not chimp much for most shoots, It is good for 350-400 photographs or so. That is must better then changing 10 rolls of film.
Besides I have have autofocus, which my SLRs didn't. I don't have to an attach a right angle finder for those low to the ground shots as I now have a flip ouit screen, some automated exposure modes (which can comein real handy) , and most imporatntly I have some relatively fast quality zooms.

On some shoots I still use DSLRs.
 
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Mostly I feel the oposite.
On purchasing a pair of Olympus E-M5Marrk II bodies I was taken back to the way Ielt about my first SLRs, Pentax SV and Pentax Spotmatics, when it came to handling it. It was a good feeling.
The electonic viewfinder is probably even better as it now has a live histogram. Yes there is a learning curve on the menu system (it can be deep).
Re - the battery life, and I do not chimp much for most shoots, It is good for 350-400 photographs or so. That is must better then changing 10 rolls of film.
Besides I have have autofocus, which my SLRs didn't. I don't have to an attach a right angle finder for those low to the ground shots as I now have a flip ouit screen, some automated exposure modes (which can comein real handy) , and most imporatntly I have some relatively fast quality zooms.

On some shoots I still use DSLRs.
350-400 shots? I only get about 250 on mine :(
 
I'm not sure how many shots I get on my Olympus. I always carry a spare battery with me, but rarely need to use it. Except on icy cold days where the spare is kept in the warm. Other brand batteries don't cost that much either, and are plenty good enough.
 
I'm not sure how many shots I get on my Olympus. I always carry a spare battery with me, but rarely need to use it. Except on icy cold days where the spare is kept in the warm. Other brand batteries don't cost that much either, and are plenty good enough.
I have 2 spare ex pro ones, but I find I often need them on a days shooting.
 
Wi-Fi is always off (so far).
For most shoots the rear screen is not used except to initially set up the camera.
Rec View is off (images not displayed after shooting).
So far the flash hasn't been used.
The camera will go to sleep after just one minute.
I do live in a warm climate (I don't know wether that helps).
For most shoots, even long ones (hours) I do not keep turning the camera on and off, just let it go to sleep.
The lenses do not normally do a lot of hunting to aquire focus.
When shooting classical music concerts (where it sees most use) the focus assit light is turned off.

I do carry a spare batteries for both bodies.
 
Wi-Fi is always off (so far).
For most shoots the rear screen is not used except to initially set up the camera.
Rec View is off (images not displayed after shooting).
So far the flash hasn't been used.
The camera will go to sleep after just one minute.
I do live in a warm climate (I don't know wether that helps).
For most shoots, even long ones (hours) I do not keep turning the camera on and off, just let it go to sleep.
The lenses do not normally do a lot of hunting to aquire focus.
When shooting classical music concerts (where it sees most use) the focus assit light is turned off.

I do carry a spare batteries for both bodies.
Pretty much how I use mine tbh.
 
Just a quick plug for the excellent Sony A7 series before I get to my main point..

I have the original A7 which I bought with the kit lens but have only used the 55mm f1.8 and 35mm f2.8 and manual primes. It is in my opinion a fantastic system for general photography and the camera is very compact and light when fitted with the 55 or 35mm but note that I don't do action... apart from anticipating it :D and when/if that's possible you can shoot action with a lethargic compact :D

Anyway my main point is that mirrorless systems are often criticised for the relatively small number of lenses available but I wonder if this will matter to most people as the main focal lengths will probably be covered by most systems. Another point is that the Canon and Nikon range of APS-C lenses may look a bit weak in comparison to some mirrorless lens line ups but of course you can use full frame lenses on APS-C DSLR's... I just mention this because I think it's generally an advantage to use lenses specifically designed for the camera you want to use them on and maybe it's a shame that the DSLR market leaders APS-C line ups are comparatively weak given the length of time they've had to develop lenses :D
 
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Just a quick plug for the excellent Sony A7 series before I get to my main point..

I have the original A7 which I bought with the kit lens but have only used the 55mm f1.8 and 35mm f2.8 and manual primes. It is in my opinion a fantastic system for general photography and the camera is very compact and light when fitted with the 55 or 35mm but note that I don't do action... apart from anticipating it :D and when/if that's possible you can shoot action with a lethargic compact :D

Anyway my main point is that mirrorless systems are often criticised for the relatively small number of lenses available but I wonder if this will matter to most people as the main focal lengths will probably be covered by most systems. Another point is that the Canon and Nikon range of APS-C lenses may look a bit weak in comparison to some mirrorless lens line ups but of course you can use full frame lenses on APS-C DSLR's... I just mention this because I think it's generally an advantage to use lenses specifically designed for the camera you want to use them on and maybe it's a shame that the DSLR market leaders APS-C line ups are comparatively weak given the length of time they've had to develop lenses :D
Tbh M4/3 have an excellent lens line up and has just about everything for everybody. Fuji caters for most but I wouldn't say extensive, likewise Sony E mount. Sony FE mount is still severely lacking IMO but is growing.
 
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Mostly I feel the oposite.
On purchasing a pair of Olympus E-M5Marrk II bodies I was taken back to the way Ielt about my first SLRs, Pentax SV and Pentax Spotmatics, when it came to handling it. It was a good feeling.
The electonic viewfinder is probably even better as it now has a live histogram. Yes there is a learning curve on the menu system (it can be deep).
Re - the battery life, and I do not chimp much for most shoots, It is good for 350-400 photographs or so. That is must better then changing 10 rolls of film.
Besides I have have autofocus, which my SLRs didn't. I don't have to an attach a right angle finder for those low to the ground shots as I now have a flip ouit screen, some automated exposure modes (which can comein real handy) , and most imporatntly I have some relatively fast quality zooms.

On some shoots I still use DSLRs.


SLR as in digital SLR. I wouldn't go back to a film SLR. I assumed that went without saying!
 
Great discussions and info guys...have made lots of notes, will go away and think about things. Am hoping to have made a decision and made a purchase before my Xmas hols so that I can get out and play :)
 
Thanks again everyone for all your replies. Budget wise I have been given a bit of money which I would like to invest in a camera. The main areas of interest, at the moment, are general photography, dogs (usually stationary) and landscape. Reading through the replies I feel that mirrorless would fit the bill and then some. Being new to posting on this site I'm not sure whether I can ask another question here or whether it should be a new post......I'll ask it here and I'm sure someone will keep me right...Can anyone send me a link where lenses would be explained and...what lens would you start with if I went for the XT1 and like to take general, dogs and landscapes? Thanks

In terms of lenses, it's going to be a budget thing. A quick look seems to indicate that the 18-135 can be bought as part of an X-T1 kit, so in terms of "very best price" this is a good entry point. Once you've had the camera a while, you can get a gauge for which focal lengths you use more often and upgrade in that direction. Are most of your shots landscapes shot at the 18mm end of the spectrum? Consider the primes at that end (14mm f2.8, 16mm f1.4 or the 10-20 zoom) Varying shots mostly in the 18-55mm range? Consider the 16-55 f2.8 or one of the excellent primes in that range (23/1.4, 35/1.4, 56/1,2). Lots of dog shots at 135mm? Consider the 55-200 zoom or the 100-400 when it's released next year...

The 18-55 & the 55-200 cover a huge focal range between them and they're fine lenses, but it's going to be a more expensive initial outlay. Same goes for the cheaper 16-50 + 50-230. If I were you, I'd get the kit with the 18-135 and once you've figured out what you enjoy shooting the most - head in that direction.

Hope that helps!
 
I shot 1200 shots with my Olympus E-M1 with battery grip fitted yesterday and it still has yet to ask for a fresh battery

Here is a handheld (one handed too) shot taken with Olympus E-M5 Mk1 with the 14-42 EZ pancake zoom lens

the-aproaching-sea by Alf Branch, on Flickr
 
Electronic viewfinders are still horrible things that can't compare to large real life optical view of your subject.

I am very happy with the E-M1 myself.
Some DSLRs have truly awful viewfinders IMO especially the budget end when fitted with a kit lens they are world away from top end full frame DSLR's so for me that does not wash as an argument.
 
I am very happy with the E-M1 myself.
Some DSLRs have truly awful viewfinders IMO especially the budget end when fitted with a kit lens they are world away from top end full frame DSLR's so for me that does not wash as an argument.

Spot on. Like any new tech, EVFs were pretty awful when they first arrived, but for example the EVF on my Fuji XT1 is almost indescribably better than the OVF on the Canon 650D it replaced.
 
Gone from 5D mark 2 (old high end DSLR) to Fuji X-E2 (current Fuji midrange). The mirrorless is excellent, I've missed nothing, but gained a more modern camera with all the latest features (Wifi, faster burst rage, better viewfinder, lighter system)

No problems with lens setup as Fuji system has enough lenses to cover all cases. I've replaced my 17-40mm f4L, 85mm f1.8, 70-200mm f4L IS with 10-24mm f4, 60mm f2.4 macro and 55-250mm f3.5-4.8.

After the switch, I had cash to spare!

IMO unless you are shooting fast moving sport, absolutely NEED that dedicated AF sensor enabled by the flapping mirror, you should buy a mirrorless camera.
 
I am very happy with the E-M1 myself.
Some DSLRs have truly awful viewfinders IMO especially the budget end when fitted with a kit lens they are world away from top end full frame DSLR's so for me that does not wash as an argument.
This^
Whilst as a rule OVFs are potentially perfect, and EVFs are technology limited, there's plenty of crap optical viewfinders out there.

Personally for me though, I prefer optical.
 
Ref batteries, with CSC's it is less about shot number and more about how long the camera is switched on.

I can have a CSC switched on "ready to shoot" and walk around all day, not take a shot and the battery will run out in 3 or 4 hours - there is limited burn time.

I took a DSLR up Kilimanjaro, it was switched on the entire 5 days (and more), took over 1000 shots and still only used one battery (despite what they said about the cold).

When I switched to CSC's the thing that drove me crazy was the battery life but that's because my frame of reference was a DSLR but you simply have to accept that they are different things and you need to treat them in different ways. You get used to it (and carrying spare batteries) and now it only drives me slightly mad :D

I daresay that if you'd never owned a DSLR you'd wonder what all the fuss is about...
 
The difference is, you need to be used to having spare batteries charged and ready to go. When you are actually out shooting, it doesn't cause you any problem. It doesn't make any difference to your shooting experience.
 
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The difference is, you need to be used to having spare batteries charged and ready to go. When you are actually out shooting, it doesn't cause you any problem. It doesn't make any difference to your shooting experience.

Yes - just carry spares and get used to it.

Short battery life can be irritating, but it wasn't long ago that we all had to carry extra rolls of film - expensive, and with a max of 36 shots per roll :eek:
 
I've never carried a spare for my Panasonic MFT cameras as the batteries seem more than adequate but I do carry one for my Sony A7 because it discharges in the camera quicker but I've only used it once and that was when I knew I was setting out with a partially charged battery. To me it's an issue and I wish that the batteries lasted longer but it's not a deal breaking issue, it's just something to be aware of and I just put the spare in my bag or pocket.

I don't know if I'm getting less irritable or if other things seem more important to me but some of the complaints about kit seem increasingly petty to me these days... We seem to have endless complaints about menu layouts, white balance, having to press a button to call up the ability to move the focus point and so many other things that just seem so minor to me and with most of these things... I just don't see a problem or care all that much.

Maybe I'm turning into a glass half full guy.
 
We used to expect the SLR battery to last a year or more.
We used to expect our Nokia batteries to last a week or more.
We used to fill up petrol cars once a week. Now with electric cars, it seems fine to plug it in overnight.
What is happening to us?
 
We used to expect the SLR battery to last a year or more.
We used to expect our Nokia batteries to last a week or more.
We used to fill up petrol cars once a week. Now with electric cars, it seems fine to plug it in overnight.
What is happening to us?

We're doing more with our kit and expecting it to do more for us?
 
A current issue (which by all means for the likes of the photographer are benefits) with mirrorless systems is they don't appear as "professional" as an SLR does (small, lights, unoffensive or intrusive to the general public), it is unfortunate as, primarily the quality of the images are almost entirely down to the photographer, but also mirrorless systems can create equally beautiful images. An example is people want to see a bloke and his assistant turn up with 100 kilos of kit, 2 huge incredibly offensive camera bodies and lenses getting swapped out left right and center to feel they have paid their good money for a professional photographer. If you didn't know any better and you paid £1000 for a photographer at your wedding would you be impressed if he turned up with something marginally bigger than a point and shoot, a second prime lens and 40 spare battery packs? which brings me to my final points - the choice of propitiatory and 3rd party lenses is much smaller than that of the long established SLR systems, and due to the high demand of power for operation you get about 1/3rd the number of shots using a mirrorless system. This doesnt matter if you are a landscape photographer, but shooting sports or events where you are firing shots off all day you will need a good few spares.

For me, if you can only own a single system, I would go with a DSLR and wait 5 years for the technology to improve and the lenses more available - particularly second hand.

To answer the question after all that dross,

You can look through an SLR without draining the power
You can compose a shot in mostly darkness with much less trouble with a mirrorless
Autofocus is snappier on SLR's - currently
There is ZERO lag when looking through the viewfinder of an SLR
the resolution of the SLR viewfinder is infinite whereas mirrorless is as good as specified in the handbook.

The pros and cons of both are very much bone picking, they are almost equal in performance and give it a few more years I'm sure the decision should get easier.

I hope my post hasn't offended anyone :)

Cheers
Earl
 
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A current issue (which by all means for the likes of the photographer are benefits) with mirrorless systems is they don't appear as "professional" as an SLR does (small, lights, unoffensive or intrusive to the general public), it is unfortunate as, primarily the quality of the images are almost entirely down to the photographer, but also mirrorless systems can create equally beautiful images. An example is people want to see a bloke and his assistant turn up with 100 kilos of kit, 2 huge incredibly offensive camera bodies and lenses getting swapped out left right and center to feel they have paid their good money for a professional photographer. If you didn't know any better and you paid £1000 for a photographer at your wedding would you be impressed if he turned up with something marginally bigger than a point and shoot, a second prime lens and 40 spare battery packs? which brings me to my final points - the choice of propitiatory and 3rd party lenses is much smaller than that of the long established SLR systems, and due to the high demand of power for operation you get about 1/3rd the number of shots using a mirrorless system. This doesnt matter if you are a landscape photographer, but shooting sports or events where you are firing shots off all day you will need a good few spares.

For me, if you can only own a single system, I would go with a DSLR and wait 5 years for the technology to improve and the lenses more available - particularly second hand.

To answer the question after all that dross,

You can look through an SLR without draining the power
You can compose a shot in mostly darkness with much less trouble with a mirrorless
Autofocus is snappier on SLR's - currently
There is ZERO lag when looking through the viewfinder of an SLR
the resolution of the SLR viewfinder is infinite whereas mirrorless is as good as specified in the handbook.

The pros and cons of both are very much bone picking, they are almost equal in performance and give it a few more years I'm sure....

I hope my post hasn't offended anyone :)

Cheers
Earl
I'm not sure I agree with some of this tbh. When I got married I knew nothing about photography and didn't give a hoots what camera the tog used or turned up with, all
I looked at was his portfolio (although would have been a bit put off if he just turned up with a compact or iphone ;))

Also, whilst I prefer the OVF in my D750 over the EVF of my EM5-II (and my previous A77-II), I prefer the EVF in the EM5-II and A77-II to OVFs in entry and mid level DSLRs. Also, the brightness of the OVF is dependant on your lens.
 
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I'm not sure I agree with some of this tbh. When I got married I knew nothing about photography and didn't give a hoots what camera the tog used or turned up with, all
I looked at was his portfolio (although would have been a bit put off if he just turned up with a compact or iphone ;))

Also, whilst I prefer the OVF in my D750 over the EVF of my EM5-II (and my previous A77-II), I prefer the EVF in the EM5-II and A77-II to OVFs in entry and mid level DSLRs. Also, the brightness of the OVF is dependant on your lens.

Very valid points snerkler, it would be nice if everyone shared that opinion but there are some very single minded folk out there when it comes to deciding what "is" professional and what "isn't", I personally wish I had the money and purpose to buy into a mirrorless system after trying several out, I do really like how they handle. Regarding the viewfinders point well made, lens, and maximum aperture is a huge factor in OVF brightness. The EVF on the A7 (not tried A77) is fantastic, it really surprised me when I went and tried it out - not only in clarity and resolution but also speed. If lenses weren't an issue and I were to go mirrorless, the A7 would be well up in my rankings.

Something I am wondering is, does looking through an EVF in darkness reset your night vision? as looking at an SLR's live view would? That is another small factor that could potentially come into play...

They are close, and have their own different advantages, (I suppose its hard to guide anyone on such topic, as it is when someone asks which lens should I buy - it is subjective to their own photography and requirements.) I know this wasn't what the topic was about but you see it getting asked all over the internet.

Cheers
Earl
 
Very valid points snerkler, it would be nice if everyone shared that opinion but there are some very single minded folk out there when it comes to deciding what "is" professional and what "isn't", I personally wish I had the money and purpose to buy into a mirrorless system after trying several out, I do really like how they handle. Regarding the viewfinders point well made, lens, and maximum aperture is a huge factor in OVF brightness. The EVF on the A7 (not tried A77) is fantastic, it really surprised me when I went and tried it out - not only in clarity and resolution but also speed. If lenses weren't an issue and I were to go mirrorless, the A7 would be well up in my rankings.

Something I am wondering is, does looking through an EVF in darkness reset your night vision? as looking at an SLR's live view would? That is another small factor that could potentially come into play...

They are close, and have their own different advantages, (I suppose its hard to guide anyone on such topic, as it is when someone asks which lens should I buy - it is subjective to their own photography and requirements.) I know this wasn't what the topic was about but you see it getting asked all over the internet.

Cheers
Earl
Tbh I've never had an issue with my eyes adjusting from looking at an EVF in darkness, but obviously it is brighter so I guess some might.

But yes it's all subjective, and overall I personally prefer a good OVF still.
 
A current issue (which by all means for the likes of the photographer are benefits) with mirrorless systems is they don't appear as "professional" as an SLR does (small, lights, unoffensive or intrusive to the general public), it is unfortunate as, primarily the quality of the images are almost entirely down to the photographer, but also mirrorless systems can create equally beautiful images. An example is people want to see a bloke and his assistant turn up with 100 kilos of kit, 2 huge incredibly offensive camera bodies and lenses getting swapped out left right and center to feel they have paid their good money for a professional photographer. If you didn't know any better and you paid £1000 for a photographer at your wedding would you be impressed if he turned up with something marginally bigger than a point and shoot, a second prime lens and 40 spare battery packs? which brings me to my final points - the choice of propitiatory and 3rd party lenses is much smaller than that of the long established SLR systems, and due to the high demand of power for operation you get about 1/3rd the number of shots using a mirrorless system. This doesnt matter if you are a landscape photographer, but shooting sports or events where you are firing shots off all day you will need a good few spares.

For me, if you can only own a single system, I would go with a DSLR and wait 5 years for the technology to improve and the lenses more available - particularly second hand.

To answer the question after all that dross,

You can look through an SLR without draining the power
You can compose a shot in mostly darkness with much less trouble with a mirrorless
Autofocus is snappier on SLR's - currently
There is ZERO lag when looking through the viewfinder of an SLR
the resolution of the SLR viewfinder is infinite whereas mirrorless is as good as specified in the handbook.

The pros and cons of both are very much bone picking, they are almost equal in performance and give it a few more years I'm sure the decision should get easier.

I hope my post hasn't offended anyone :)

Cheers
Earl
Whilst the technical stuff here might be close, the bits about 'professional gear' are a mile wide of the mark. Pro's get jobs based on their portfolio, not their gear. And during the job, they impress with their behaviour not their gear. But most importantly, they're judged by their results, never their gear.

With a caveat: sometimes people attempt to judge a professional by their gear, but there's a name for those people and it doesn't get past the swear filter, idiot doesn't quite cover it. ;)
 
Tbh I've never had an issue with my eyes adjusting from looking at an EVF in darkness, but obviously it is brighter so I guess some might.

But yes it's all subjective, and overall I personally prefer a good OVF still.

I had an issue with my Fuji Xpro-1 when using the EVF. After some use I would have an arc eye effect, when I mentioned this to my Optician, he stated, "that I was having, like mini migraines from using the EVF as the refresh rate was too slow". I changed to the XT1 and never had a problem again.

Also, I don't have a problem with the D750 now.
 
I had an issue with my Fuji Xpro-1 when using the EVF. After some use I would have an arc eye effect, when I mentioned this to my Optician, he stated, "that I was having, like mini migraines from using the EVF as the refresh rate was too slow". I changed to the XT1 and never had a problem again.

Also, I don't have a problem with the D750 now.
Not sure you're using the right term there as arc eye is inflammation due to exposure to UV light, in effect sunburn of the eye. But having any kind of visual impairment from using a screen isn't ideal, glad you've found something that you can use without an issue.

It is strange how we all see different effects though. I remember when I had my A77 and thought the screen was perfect, but a long term Canon user I was out on a shoot with once tried it said that he could see the screen, particularly the sky flickering. I do however notice this with my EM5-II, and did see the rainbow tearing on the GX7 :confused:
 
Not sure you're using the right term there as arc eye is inflammation due to exposure to UV light, in effect sunburn of the eye. But having any kind of visual impairment from using a screen isn't ideal, glad you've found something that you can use without an issue.

It is strange how we all see different effects though. I remember when I had my A77 and thought the screen was perfect, but a long term Canon user I was out on a shoot with once tried it said that he could see the screen, particularly the sky flickering. I do however notice this with my EM5-II, and did see the rainbow tearing on the GX7 :confused:

Yes, I'm using the right term. Arc eye can be caused by welding, sun, snow etc.... I was involved in welding bays, machine shops and site construction in my days as as Health & Safety Officer & Production Manager and unfortunately I have been caught a couple of times by welding arc's and seen with others. Have a read > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photokeratitis

As I mentioned above, if using the Xpro-1 EVF, which I prefered for the zooms I had over using the OVF, I would suffer with eye irritation, blurriness, and watering etc......which would last for about an hour after some use, it would then settle down. It was mild in comparison to some of the cases I have seen, but it was similar sensation to the arc eye I have received in the past. It's the only way I could explain the symptoms.

I loved the Xpro-1, but it had to go as I couldn't use it for my needs, the XT-1 was fine and the XE-1 I had a few years ago, which was shortly after they came out.
 
Electronic viewfinders are still horrible things that can't compare to large real life optical view of your subject.
Yes and no. Yes, optical viewfinders give the most 'real' picture especially if they're a good size. No, in that an EVF will always present you with the brightest image possible, unlike the realm of darkness you get in an OVF when the light starts to go...
 
Whilst the technical stuff here might be close, the bits about 'professional gear' are a mile wide of the mark. Pro's get jobs based on their portfolio, not their gear. And during the job, they impress with their behaviour not their gear. But most importantly, they're judged by their results, never their gear.

With a caveat: sometimes people attempt to judge a professional by their gear, but there's a name for those people and it doesn't get past the swear filter, idiot doesn't quite cover it. ;)
I admire your passion for the reality of it all :)
 
Yes, I'm using the right term. Arc eye can be caused by welding, sun, snow etc.... I was involved in welding bays, machine shops and site construction in my days as as Health & Safety Officer & Production Manager and unfortunately I have been caught a couple of times by welding arc's and seen with others. Have a read > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photokeratitis

As I mentioned above, if using the Xpro-1 EVF, which I prefered for the zooms I had over using the OVF, I would suffer with eye irritation, blurriness, and watering etc......which would last for about an hour after some use, it would then settle down. It was mild in comparison to some of the cases I have seen, but it was similar sensation to the arc eye I have received in the past. It's the only way I could explain the symptoms.

I loved the Xpro-1, but it had to go as I couldn't use it for my needs, the XT-1 was fine and the XE-1 I had a few years ago, which was shortly after they came out.
Ahh right, I thought you meant the EVF caused your arc eye hence my confusion ;)
 
You can look through an SLR without draining the power
You can compose a shot in mostly darkness with much less trouble with a mirrorless
Autofocus is snappier on SLR's - currently
There is ZERO lag when looking through the viewfinder of an SLR
the resolution of the SLR viewfinder is infinite whereas mirrorless is as good as specified in the handbook.

I'm not at all sure about these two.

Fast focus has to be a combination of the body plus the lens and there have been a string of new CSC's each successively claiming to the be worlds fastest focusing camera (and lens as of course this claim has to be a specific body and a specific lens combination.) It may be that I've missed a new DSLR (and lens) taking the crown of the fastest focusing thingy but I do remember a string of CSC manufacturers making the claim.

I'm not too sure about the VF comment about resolution either as whatever you can see through an optical VF fitted to a DSLR you can see at high magnification with an EVF. When using an EVF and looking at a magnified view you can see and focus on things that are simply impossible to see clearly with an unaided optical system. If you have the time to manually focus with an EVF and magnified view you can manually focus very accurately indeed and IMO much more accurately that you ever could with an unaided optical system.
 
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