What a scumbag.

agreed , however seeing how this country seems to work , he will probably end up being a celebrity of somesort :bang: :bang: :bang:
 
This sort of crap needs stamping down on, the lack of respect shown by a certain section of society is not acceptable to the majority and the courts should damned well recognise that fact and start making an example of offenders.Harsh? Yes it is, but I, for one, am sick of reading and witnessing these sort of antics.
 
paulyoung666 said:
he will probably end up being a celebrity of somesort :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Agreed, i bet he's having a laugh about it right now, ****** infuriates me !

Merovingian said:
Expulsion from his uni would be fitting imo.
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If only, but in reality it would never happen, i'm sure it would be a breach of his human rights, or some other ***** like that :bang:

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I've submitted a comment to the effect of "Can someone please arrange for Mr laing to join us here in Afghanistan where we will kindly repay the compliment"...

what a nobber...
 
Arkady said:
I've submitted a comment to the effect of "Can someone please arrange for Mr laing to join us here in Afghanistan where we will kindly repay the compliment"...

what a nobber...
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I was thinking along those lines.

What a piece of low life garbage he is. I'd love to see him kicked senseless.
 
His parents must be so proud.
 
arclight said:
I was thinking along those lines.

What a piece of low life garbage he is. I'd love to see him kicked senseless.
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:O

devils advocate mode

no it's not right and no i don't agree with his behaviour

Laing issued his apology through Sheffield Hallam University.

He said: "I am deeply ashamed of this photograph and I am sincerely sorry for my behaviour.

"I have no recollection of the events in the photograph, although I recognise that this does not excuse my actions.

"I apologise unreservedly for any offence I may have caused."
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of course non of us have ever done something we are ashamed of when obliterated through drink.

If he had been sober or unapologetic then ship him to Sgt Knight ASAP.
This moment of drunken excess is quite rightly going to follow Mr Laing for some time and will be punishment enough.

there is a wider issue here, namely the Carnage UK event itself :bang:
 
andrew748 said:
:O

devils advocate mode

no it's not right and no i don't agree with his behaviour



of course non of us have ever done something we are ashamed of when obliterated through drink.

If he had been sober or unapologetic then ship him to Sgt Knight ASAP.
This moment of drunken excess is quite rightly going to follow Mr Laing for some time and will be punishment enough.

there is a wider issue here, namely the Carnage UK event itself :bang:
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There's a difference between drunken revelry and disrespecting an entire generation without whom our lives would be very different indeed.
 
KayJay said:
There's a difference between drunken revelry and disrespecting an entire generation without whom our lives would be very different indeed.
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i'm not disagreeing, i just thought the kick him senseless comment was wrong. :thumbsdown:

especially when you consider that the student was senseless when he committed this disgusting act :bonk:
 
Merovingian said:
Expulsion from his uni would be fitting imo.
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Not really worth ruining the boys life over it.

Laing was reportedly in a "shocking state" and curled up for a sleep in front of a shop window, only to be woken by a group of giggling girls.

He was allegedly helped to his feet and walked over to the First World War memorial in Baker's Pool, where he relieved himself over tributes left to the fallen.
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The people that led him there deserve some flak too.
 
My personal opinion is that he should be expelled from uni, for bringing shame upon the uni like that.

andrew748 said:
of course non of us have ever done something we are ashamed of when obliterated through drink.
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I've done some stupid stuff when I was drunk, including a striptease at Mac Donnalds (and probably done stupider when I'm sober too! :lol:) but I've never hurt or disrespected anyone and certainly never urinated on a memorial for people who gave their lives so that mine could be how it is.
 
Laudrup said:
The people that led him there deserve some flak too.
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why? They took him somewhere nearby that they thought was a bit safer and he wouldn't get trampled on. I doubt very much that they made him urinate on the memorial.

In Newcastle, the memorial is surrounded by benches and grass. Don't know what it's like there, but I'd assume it was similar?
 
If they expelled every Uni student who disgraced themselves when drunk there would be nobody in the Uni. Would he have chosen to urinate there if those people hadn't allegedly woken him? Probably not. Not worth ruining the guys life over though, or 'giving him a kicking'.
 
Laudrup said:
If they expelled every Uni student who disgraced themselves when drunk there would be nobody in the Uni. Would he have chosen to urinate there if those people hadn't allegedly woken him? Probably not. Not worth ruining the guys life over though, or 'giving him a kicking'.
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This pleb did more than disgrace himself, he disrespected the graves of the men who laid down thier lives so that he could go to university.

A good kicking is a bit severe I must admit, but if society does not stamp down on this idiotic behaviour then the rest of the pondlife will deem it to be acceptable.
 
andrew748 said:
:O

devils advocate mode

no it's not right and no i don't agree with his behaviour



of course non of us have ever done something we are ashamed of when obliterated through drink.

If he had been sober or unapologetic then ship him to Sgt Knight ASAP.
This moment of drunken excess is quite rightly going to follow Mr Laing for some time and will be punishment enough.

there is a wider issue here, namely the Carnage UK event itself :bang:
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I have to agree - being hammered in no way excuses what he did, but he seems to realise that himself.

The organisers of these events know what people attend them to do... thats why it's called "Carnage". The problem isn't one individual, it's the whole drinking culture. I don't know how you change that though - when I was his age I also thought it was a great laugh to go out and get drunk. On more than one occasion it all went a bit too far and looking back now, I'm ashamed of the way I behaved a lot of the time.
 
fracster said:
This pleb did more than disgrace himself, he disrespected the graves of the men who laid down thier lives so that he could go to university.

A good kicking is a bit severe I must admit, but if society does not stamp down on this idiotic behaviour then the rest of the pondlife will deem it to be acceptable.
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That's what the courts are for. A fitting punishment would be to make him go back out every Friday and Saturday night for a year and clean up all the urine and vomit left by all his fellow "revellers"......


Or alternatively, hang him :lol:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
That's what the courts are for. A fitting punishment would be to make him go back out every Friday and Saturday night for a year and clean up all the urine and vomit left by all his fellow "revellers"......


Or alternatively, hang him :lol:
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First option is an excellent idea.
 
We've all done idiotic things when drunk - if you haven't then you weren't trying hard enough! And at 19 he'll not have had enough practice to realise where his limits are rearding the amount of alcohol he can realistically consume and still remember where he was the night before - Uni is exactly the right place for him to be doing this...with peopel of his own peer-group having a laugh...
The fault lies with the organisers for not policing the event properly and allowing it to be recorded quite so thoroughly...
That said, I'd still like to see him and his buddies out here for a couple of weeks - we'd have them on latrine-cleaning duties to remind them of the realities of life before they get back to becoming the next leaders of industry...
 
I blame the memorial - shouldn't have been all dolled up and out alone at that time of night.
 
We have just come upon an issue touched upon here in our little house. My generation contained alot of people who liked to get drunk, and there were some occasions where people would mis-behave of course...

However, i have NEVER en-countered the level of 'i can brush it off because i was drunk when it happened' that seems to go on.

I have a young 19 year old housemate and a girlfriend of his came over, turned out she had punched a friend of mine whilst drunk, just because he had a mohican!

Upon speaking to her about it, shes not sorry because she was drunk when it happened and therefore it is not her problem! Just everyone elses then!

Am constantly hearing of people making this excuse - i havent been drunk for a long time as i dont enjoy the feeling too much, but i can recall many occasions when myself and my friends have been VERY drunk and we have never felt the need to hit people, or openly disrespect an older generation :(

I see it every day, a complete lack of respect for the world, for peers... There isnt even any honour amongst theives anymore :(

I feel sorry for them, as all these things they do, they are going to have to live with for the rest of their lives - and guilt is a powerful thing

we all grow up one day...

Its very sad to see, but i cant blame this man entirely for these actions, the drink youth culture is scary - to ban alcohol entirely until 18 and then introduce our young to it with universities and events like this - when many of them are living away from home for the first time and dont even have that parental support to fall back on.

More responsibilty should be taken by the organisors of these events and also by the universities that advocate them.
 
Arkady said:
That said, I'd still like to see him and his buddies out here for a couple of weeks - we'd have them on latrine-cleaning duties to remind them of the realities of life before they get back to becoming the next leaders of industry...
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:nono::thinking:No offence but as i remember from A-stan cleaning toilets is not as bad as 2 or 3 weeks of scouting in north east of kabol or breathing dust in Helmand which is i believe the worlds capital of dust.
 
Feeb wrote :-

I have a young 19 year old housemate and a girlfriend of his came over, turned out she had punched a friend of mine whilst drunk, just because he had a mohican!

Upon speaking to her about it, shes not sorry because she was drunk when it happened and therefore it is not her problem! Just everyone elses then!

Am constantly hearing of people making this excuse - i havent been drunk for a long time as i dont enjoy the feeling too much, but i can recall many occasions when myself and my friends have been VERY drunk and we have never felt the need to hit people, or openly disrespect an older generation

Yes, plenty of us have seen examples of that.
Why is it that some folk can get drunk, but never show aggression or behave like the lout in the picture. Others get a few drinks in them and want to quarrel and fight.

Could it be that the alcohol is simply lowering inhibitions and allowing the true personality to surface.

Being under the influence of alcohol (I may be later tonight) is never an excuse for anything.
 
arclight said:
Could it be that the alcohol is simply lowering inhibitions and allowing the true personality to surface.
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I think that could be a large part of it. I've been on nights out with large groups of people (Saturday night at the Convention being a good example) where large quantities of alcohol were consumed and none of us at any point felt the need to fight or urinate in public.
 
MagicMynx said:
In Newcastle, the memorial is surrounded by benches and grass. Don't know what it's like there, but I'd assume it was similar?
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think how many people have relieved themselves on Grey's monument though :D

i hate people who urinate in public full stop, there is just no need for it. every single club, bar and pub have facilities so there is no excuse!

As for his choice of location, the fact it has been published in the media is punishment enough i think. Uni expulsion is a bit of an over reaction i think, worse things will have been done by students.

the only drunken things that should be allowed are traffic cones strategically places in hilarious positions :D :lol:

Arkady, with regards to your comment about policing the events, i would love to see it happen, as i hate the current drinking culture, but the events are way too big to be policed or controlled.

There are HUNDREDS of people on a Carnage night out. They go to different bars and clubs at different times so there is no way to control it unfortunately.
 
I think I must be odd - I'm 21 on Tuesday, haven't been drunk because I don't like alcohol and never will. There must be something wrong with me :p:lol:

Although there was this lad from Finland who got drunk at my uni (Lancaster) and threw a brick through someones window - he was escorted back to the uni promptly.
There is this 'carnage' event supposedly happening in Lancaster, needless to say I won't be attending - however the event organisers call the event carnage, target it at students, then say 'It doesn't usually happen' when something bad goes on! I mean come on :bang:
 
BellyBoy said:
I think I must be odd - I'm 21 on Tuesday, haven't been drunk because I don't like alcohol and never will. There must be something wrong with me :p:lol:

Although there was this lad from Finland who got drunk at my uni (Lancaster) and threw a brick through someones window - he was escorted back to the uni promptly.
There is this 'carnage' event supposedly happening in Lancaster, needless to say I won't be attending - however the event organisers call the event carnage, target it at students, then say 'It doesn't usually happen' when something bad goes on! I mean come on :bang:
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its not just you, dont worry
i hardly ever drink, never go to clubs, i hate them. seems to be a gathering grounds for chavs and general ***** to get drunk and try and fight.

I will happily go to the pub for a few drinks, but never enjoy getting drunk, or being with people who cannot control themselves :shake:
 
Merovingian said:
Expulsion from his uni would be fitting imo.
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I fail to see what the one has to do with the other. Might as well take his driver's licence away too while we're at it and break both his legs.

I'm always impressed by the "outrage" in this country over something that in and of itself is rather harmless. Yes, he was drunk out of his mind and yes, he pi**ed on a memorial. I'm reasonably sure he did not have any political statement in mind when he did it. Certainly he might deserve a fine for it, but all this overreaction by the so called public, who immediately have the torches and pitchforks at the ready and who apparently never did anything wrong (or - aha - have probably just never been caught doing it), is a joke. I'd rather have a drunk **** on a memorial than go out and punch some other kids nose in, which appears to be more accepted and causes no outrage whatsoever any more.
 
he'd get a right kicking round here, I know a lot of guys in the forces ........


I will admit to being rather fond of drink and to have gotten unbelievably drunk and admittedly to urinating in public(but it was a beach at 4 in the morning below the tide line so I kinda think thats fair) but being passing out drunk is actually no fun getting drunk having a few beers and a few laughs and maybe a few shots is great but passing out means you miss the night its drinking for drinkings sake which I don't really get I mean by the time you get to uni you've had that houseparty with booze at 15 when you nearly kill yourself and you're over the stupity high

meh
 
foto kitsch said:
:nono::thinking:No offence but as i remember from A-stan cleaning toilets is not as bad as 2 or 3 weeks of scouting in north east of kabol or breathing dust in Helmand which is i believe the worlds capital of dust.
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Quite right, it is - however - it's a little unfair to put untrained students out on patrol here, don't you think?

:lol:
 
Quite unnecessary - I think after further reading, he realises the enormity of his faux-pas and is suitably chastened...
I do think a stint of working with the Royal British legion might be better than minefield clearance here in Helmand though...lol
 
fabs said:
So let me get this straight, you're hope that somebody inflicts physical violence on him?
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errm, ok, i understand your perspective on life, as im growing roots on this forum. however, what do you think should be done with him? the outcome of his "court case" will be interesting, as i imagine he'll be laughing his head off down the pub a couple of hours later.

If you're too drunk to know what you're doing, then you **** your pants, simplez. he decided that rather than ****ing in the bus stop, that he would **** on a memorial.

therefore, i think he deserves a good kicking. and ill not apologise for my opinion.
 
Rozzy said:
errm, ok, i understand your perspective on life, as im growing roots on this forum. however, what do you think should be done with him? the outcome of his "court case" will be interesting, as i imagine he'll be laughing his head off down the pub a couple of hours later.

If you're too drunk to know what you're doing, then you **** your pants, simplez. he decided that rather than ****ing in the bus stop, that he would **** on a memorial.

therefore, i think he deserves a good kicking. and ill not apologise for my opinion.
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A bit sad that you feel the solution to this is "a good kicking". :shake:
 
I would have thought that being a student, he would not have been able to afford the drink in the first place.
I imagine the judge will be lenient on him though. The poor student!
 
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