What a muppet!!!

Doesn't really matter which mode your in as long as you alter the shutter speed, if you alter the aperture it affects the depth of field between shots which tends to give a softer effect.
 
posiview said:
Realised today that after doing HDR for around 3 years I should not have photographed in manual mode!

The end.
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Why not? Surely in shutter priority the camera would adjust the aperture to keep exposure?

swanseamale47 said:
Doesn't really matter which mode your in as long as you alter the shutter speed, if you alter the aperture it affects the depth of field between shots which tends to give a softer effect.
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I always wondered why you didn't alter the aperture...now I know!
 
I'll have to add the contents of this thread to the 'things that I've learned today' list.

Thanks chaps! :)
 
AH ... I thought it was going to be one of those "I should never have even tried HDR"... :P

Manual, can't beat it if you're into this type of thing. No other mode will give you the same precision.
 
swanseamale47 said:
Doesn't really matter which mode your in as long as you alter the shutter speed, if you alter the aperture it affects the depth of field between shots which tends to give a softer effect.
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Exactly. So change the shutter speed instead. Still manual. I don't see why using manual is a bad thing for HDR.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Exactly. So change the shutter speed instead. Still manual. I don't see why using manual is a bad thing for HDR.
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I'm getting a little lost here. I'm in manual mode. If I have settings of, say, f11 at 200th as my 'correct' setting and I'm bracketing for a 3 stop HDR, the camera will change the settings to something like f13 at 400th (to under expose) and f8 at 100th to over expose, in 'continue high', surely the resulting photographs won't be as 'good' as taking 3 photographs in CH in aperture priority at f11, when the camera will change just the shutter speed to give me correct, under and over exposed photographs :thinking:

Now I know I could manually change the setting in manual, which is what you may be pointing out, but why not shoot in S?

Eeekkk long sentence.

Cheers.
 
posiview said:
I'm getting a little lost here. I'm in manual mode. If I have settings of, say, f11 at 200th as my 'correct' setting and I'm bracketing for a 3 stop HDR, the camera will change the settings to something like f13 at 400th (to under expose) and f8 at 100th to over expose, in 'continue high', surely the resulting photographs won't be as 'good' as taking 3 photographs in CH in aperture priority at f11, when the camera will change just the shutter speed to give me correct, under and over exposed photographs :thinking:

Now I know I could manually change the setting in manual, which is what you may be pointing out, but why not shoot in S?

Eeekkk long sentence.

Cheers.
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You'd shoot in A not S to maintain the same aperture, Dave only said there's nothing wrong with doing it in Manual. Someone else may have suggested Manual was the best option. Of course the exposure mode has no significance, you just need to understand metering.
 
Phil V said:
You'd shoot in A not S to maintain the same aperture, Dave only said there's nothing wrong with doing it in Manual. Someone else may have suggested Manual was the best option. Of course the exposure mode has no significance, you just need to understand metering.
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b****r, too early, I meant A.
 
When doing HDR-pans You should always use a fixed aperture, though you can change the shutter speed for HDR for each series of shots you intend to blend.

Doing Focus blending you should keep both the same.

You should also set the Colour balance to manual for all these techniques.
 
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I've only ever done 2 shots in HDR and they were done in HDR mode on my 5D3 and they were done handheld so I didn't get the best result anyway. Next time I've got my tripod out I do intend on trying some HDR shots, maybe flowers in the garden to start with, but I can't say I'm a great fan of the 'over processed' ones I've seen so far.
 
I don't much like HDR and will never do it but I would have though that manual mode changing the shutter speed to alter exposure would be the best way to do it. You certainly don't want to use any automatic modes do you?


Steve.
 
Steve Smith said:
I don't much like HDR and will never do it but I would have though that manual mode changing the shutter speed to alter exposure would be the best way to do it. You certainly don't want to use any automatic modes do you?

Steve.
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No harm in doing it in A mode, using EC as you would SS in M mode.
 
Steve Smith said:
I don't much like HDR and will never do it but I would have though that manual mode changing the shutter speed to alter exposure would be the best way to do it. You certainly don't want to use any automatic modes do you?
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If the camera is in say Aperture Priority and Auto Bracketing, is going to do exactly the same thing as you would do in Manual altering the shutter speed, (for HDR,) what would be the difference in the final result? :shrug: Nothing for me, apart from taking longer to do it.

There is a time for Manual mode, and if you want to use it all the time, then that's up to you, but if the camera has a mode that is going to do exactly what you would do in Manual mode, whatever you are doing, then let the camera do the work for you. :shrug: It'll save time for you to let you take more pictures of the scene in front of you, save time to take other, different pictures, or just be more efficient taking pictures you do. :)

Just my 2p's worth. ;)
 
Lesson learnt-i always shoot in manual and never thought of that!
 
redhed17 said:
If the camera is in say Aperture Priority and Auto Bracketing, is going to do exactly the same thing as you would do in Manual altering the shutter speed, (for HDR,) what would be the difference in the final result? :shrug: Nothing for me, apart from taking longer to do
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:thumbs:

daugirdas said:
Fixed it for you :D
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Nope, you've fixed it for you

As it's my thread I'll let I drift:D

I don't mind HDR, what I'm not a fan of is bad HDR, and my idea of bad HDR will differ from others. I find this distain for HDR amusing, bordering on the arrogant at times.

People new to photography often want to trying a wide range of photographic and post processing techniques. I often see remarks like, "OK, you've done it, now move on" which I don't find helpful, to say the least.

I've seen some amazing HDR photographs, in fact there was one in February's issue of Digital SLR Photography that I really liked. No way could that have been produced without the use of HDR.

Cheers.
 
Well that shows that posting something that might seem trivial helps other folk out. I am a fan of HDR (well not all that I've seen...) and have yet to get around trying it, but Andy's thread has steered others and myself clear of an error that's easy to make. Ta!
 
My thoughts too ;
redhed17 said:
If the camera is in say Aperture Priority and Auto Bracketing, is going to do exactly the same thing as you would do in Manual altering the shutter speed, ...

... but if the camera has a mode that is going to do exactly what you would do in Manual mode, whatever you are doing, then let the camera do the work for you. :shrug:
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Like all things it has its place but is often overdone or used for the sake of it rather than because its needed.
Best use ive seen is in photos of the inside of churches to show the detail in the stone work and keep the stained glass exposed nicley.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I don't see why using manual is a bad thing for HDR.
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One reason I can think of is that you have to touch the camera between each shot to adjust shutter speed, which *might* move the camera slightly. In AV and with AEB set and continous shooting, the camera takes 3 for you bracketed without having to touch the camera. (On my canon anyway)
 
I took 3 shots the other day all at f11 and 30 secs one with +1 one with -1 and one at 0 yet photoshop wouldn't recognise them as being different:thinking:
 
Jjm said:
I took 3 shots the other day all at f11 and 30 secs one with +1 one with -1 and one at 0 yet photoshop wouldn't recognise them as being different:thinking:
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Sure its not just put them into a collapsed "stack"?
 
Hello All,
Sorry to butt in here but could I ask what the implication of keeping shutter and aperture the same and changing ISO between exposures?
Surely this would get the best continuity??
 
ilikebowens said:
Hello All,
Sorry to butt in here but could I ask what the implication of keeping shutter and aperture the same and changing ISO between exposures?
Surely this would get the best continuity??
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Any noise can be magnified during HDR, and starting with higher ISO 'noisier' images could lead to a noisier final image. You can only try it one way and the other though to see which works best. :shrug:
 
Jjm said:
Whats a collapsed stack my photoshop knowledge is minimal:)
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Well, in the elements organiser, if you edit a photo and save it, it will keep the new version with the source and then put a little fly-out arrow on the thumbnail in the organiser, which then shows all the versions of the file. I thought it possible that newer versions *might* recognise the bracketed images automatically and apply the same sort of technique. I'm probably wrong though.
 
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