Wetherspoons - ultimate Jobsworth award?

wack61 said:
It was the being challenged if you look under 30 I was commenting on , if you look under 18 at 30 they should be throwing you a party
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But then isn't alcohol challenge 25? Or is it still 21.

Ultimately it's the retailer covering their behind because they'd probably get sued and/or prosecuted if they sold age restricted goods to someone who was under age and/or some incident occurred as a result.
 
neil_g said:
But then isn't alcohol challenge 25? Or is it still 21.

Ultimately it's the retailer covering their behind because they'd probably get sued and/or prosecuted if they sold age restricted goods to someone who was under age and/or some incident occurred as a result.
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There's a risk analysis here.
Selling alcohol to an under 18 who looked over 21 is one thing, selling a knife to someone who then stabs someone, that'll make loss of your license look like being sent to your room.
 
Alan Clogwyn said:
Glad you mentioned Fake IDs. Most of them are terrible, some are quite good. A selection from 2014, by the end of the season the board was full of them! The best one is top left - the license period should be 10 years, this one isn't. Also his address was not a full address, and some of the details on the reverse were incorrect. The format etc however is spot on. It doesn't help that the DVLA continually change the format of the damn things. This year we've only had a single fake.

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Isn't the photo bottom right Ian Brady?
 
I'm 63. A bit of under age drinking was pretty much a rite of passage when I was growing up, and I suspect that's true for a lot of the posters on this thread ;). No-one got too agitated about it, but I've spent most of my life outside the UK and I'm wondering when/why this changed?

I do remember a barman asking if the 'young lady' (my wife) was 18, several years after we got married, but he just wanted an assurance. No proof of age or anything like that...
 
MartynK said:
I'm 63. A bit of under age drinking was pretty much a rite of passage when I was growing up, and I suspect that's true for a lot of the posters on this thread ;). No-one got too agitated about it, but I've spent most of my life outside the UK and I'm wondering when/why this changed?

I do remember a barman asking if the 'young lady' (my wife) was 18, several years after we got married, but he just wanted an assurance. No proof of age or anything like that...
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I think the difference being that many other (in my experience especially european) cultures have a much healthier relationship with alcohol.

I never nor any of my friends or people I knew growing up went out to get hammered, drunk, wasted etc. In fact sometimes it happens but wasn't our goal.
 
wack61 said:
It was the being challenged if you look under 30 I was commenting on , if you look under 18 at 30 they should be throwing you a party
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It's to give the retailer and their employees a safety buffer.
If their policy was "Look under 18? You'll need to show ID", then you're operating in a very narrow window with a high margin of error. "Yeah they look 19...." when in fact they're 17.
Having that buffer of looking under 30, there's not really much margin for error.
 
Marcel said:
It's to give the retailer and their employees a safety buffer.
If their policy was "Look under 18? You'll need to show ID", then you're operating in a very narrow window with a high margin of error. "Yeah they look 19...." when in fact they're 17.
Having that buffer of looking under 30, there's not really much margin for error.
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I've just remembered taking my daughter to Joburg airport when she was about 22 - 23, working on her Masters, and flying to Grahamstown where she was presenting a paper at Rhodes University. She had her hair in a ponytail, no make up and was wearing a T shirt and shorts; the check in lady - who was lovely - smiled and asked if she was an unaccompanied minor, and asked if she'd require assistance...:D

Daughter warned me of dire consequences if I told 'Luke' - her boyfriend at the time - about this. Like mother, like daughter, I suppose. Both of them still look a lot younger than they are. I'm not complaining.
 
I remember getting stopped at the door aged 16 (maybe 17) around 1989/90. Had no ID so he asked me my DOB, gave him one that had me at 18 and them asked for my star sign, said I don't believe in any of that crap and he let me in!! Those were the days - sure most of us drank underage, didn't do us any harm!!
 
cambsno said:
Those were the days - sure most of us drank underage, didn't do us any harm!!
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Indeed.
In fact I recall the novelty had very much worn off by 18.
 
viv1969 said:
Indeed.
In fact I recall the novelty had very much worn off by 18.
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:)

As my parent and extended family and friends included me from when I was little in sensible drinking, I've never had the urge to try it by myself. A very alien concept to me.
 
dejongj said:
:)

As my parent and extended family and friends included me from when I was little in sensible drinking, I've never had the urge to try it by myself. A very alien concept to me.
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Try what by yourself?
 
Whenever I worked on reception in the casino, we had to ask for photo ID from anyone who looked under 21. Just to be on the safe side, I would usually ask for anyone looking under 25 as I was a crap judge of age. Not being a jobsworth but the local police used to send in minors to licensed premises as part of their spot checks into underage drinking/gambling. One did slip through the net and gain entry which caused all sorts of problems for the company with the Gaming Commission and licensing authorities.
 
dejongj said:
I actually let her, but tonight she passed on it and I had three. My wide didn't want it either :)
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My wide has been p***ing me her s***s all evening as well! (Which were brought to us by the restaurant owner's 10 year old daughter.)
 
First time I lied about my age was to get in the pictures to see a X rated film, the then newly released A Clockwork Orange
Thoroughly unpleasant film and would much rather have lied to get the in the pub for a light and bitter.
 
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viv1969 said:
Try what by yourself?
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In context of what was being discussed I would have thought that was obvious. But I guess not. Underage drinking.
 
dejongj said:
In context of what was being discussed I would have thought that was obvious. But I guess not. Underage drinking.
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I don't think anyone here was knocking around trying it by themselves.
It usually involves friends of a similar age.
So you'll forgive my confusion.
 
viv1969 said:
I don't think anyone here was knocking around trying it by themselves.
It usually involves friends of a similar age.
So you'll forgive my confusion.
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As I mentioned, and alien concept to me. I just don't get this obsession with drink.
 
dejongj said:
As I mentioned, and alien concept to me. I just don't get this obsession with drink.
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Do lighten up JP...who's obsessed? (As you say...within the context of the thread?)
 
Never really seen the obsession with drink, I don't much these days, odd glass of wine with a meal but not much else.
A waste really because on the very odd occasion I have drunk too much (all night party in my younger days) I don't suffer from hangovers.
When I worked for a short time in a local supermarket the list of don't sell to people was Under 18s, People already obviously drunk (I beleive that
still applies ?) and young people in Christ Hospital School Uniform :)
 
I'm surprised that nobody has picked up on this:
DG Phototraining said:
She then goes on to say "Don't you remember? Until a few months ago Tom worked here"

Still the senior staff-member wouldn't budge from her "Must be a current Passport" stance
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This wasn't a jobsworth. It's clearly payback for something that happened whilst he worked there.
 
StewartR said:
I'm surprised that nobody has picked up on this:

This wasn't a jobsworth. It's clearly payback for something that happened whilst he worked there.
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My mind just doesn't work in such a petty way; just follow the rules or if I disagree change them.
 
neil_g said:
There's an argument here somewhere for national ID cards.

I got ID'd the other day, I'm 35. I blame my boyish good looks.. :naughty:
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No....there really isn't.


Me and four mates all got ID'd few years back, all a bit grey haired and in our forties at the time, definitely no boyish nor good looks involved then that's for certain lol.....
 
I didn't really drink until I was 17 (yes still underage but quite old compared to many of my peers) and when I did partake in an alcoholic beverage it was usually at a family party where I was monitored.

When I was 16/17, on account that I looked older I was the one who always got sent to the offie with the shopping list for my friends. As this was the early/mid-90s it generally consisted of white lightning and 20-20, maybe some Hooch too :LOL:

On one occasion the "kids" in front of me got turned away due to lack of ID and as the guy was packing 3 carrier bags worth of drink for me he said "you are 18 aren't you", I confidently nodded and replied "of course". He told me they'd been having a lot of trouble with kids trying to get served to which I responded "Yeah, I guess you get them coming in thick & fast on a Friday night", then paid and walked out feeling EPIC :LOL:

Just to add the irony was I wasn't even drinking at this point in time.............
 
dejongj said:
I think the difference being that many other (in my experience especially european) cultures have a much healthier relationship with alcohol.

I never nor any of my friends or people I knew growing up went out to get hammered, drunk, wasted etc. In fact sometimes it happens but wasn't our goal.
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I think it is a fairly recent thing that people in the UK feel the need to go out and get absolutely rat arsed. Certainly wasn't the case when I started work in '79, aged 16. We'd nip to anyone of 4 pubs local to college at lunch time, have a pint, something to eat and play video games. Never got challenged for ID etc. in any of the pubs, evenings and weekends were spent playing football or Karate classes then a pint in the pub, again never being asked for ID etc.
 
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ecoleman said:
Because they moved out at 17 and need a bread knife to make sandwiches??

I can think of lots of reasons somebody under the age of 18 would buy a knife.
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You should probably direct that complaint to your MP rather than the knife retailers...
 
Dave1 said:
You should probably direct that complaint to your MP rather than the knife retailers...
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Why? I do t have a problem buying a knife. I was just pointing out a reason why an under 18 would need to buy a knife.

But, yes, it's a stupid, I'll thought out law that does sweet FA to reduce knife crime.
 
ecoleman said:
Why? I do t have a problem buying a knife. I was just pointing out a reason why an under 18 would need to buy a knife.

But, yes, it's a stupid, I'll thought out law that does sweet FA to reduce knife crime.
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I'd be very surprised if parliament expected it to...
 
nilagin said:
I think it is a fairly recent thing that people in the UK feel the need to go out and get absolutely rat arsed. Certainly wasn't the case when I started work in '79, aged 16. We'd nip to anyone of 4 pubs local to college at lunch time, have a pint, something to eat and play video games. Never got challenged for ID etc. in any of the pubs, evenings and weekends were spent playing football or Karate classes then a pint in the pub, again never being asked for ID etc.
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Getting rat arsed is even older than you!

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I would bet getting rat arsed has been going since the first day an early human discovered fermented fruit.
 
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