Weekend Wedding......

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So, I shot another wedding at the weekend and thought I would share the experience and lessons learned. And basically…to share the pain lol!

The most obvious mistake was to be a guest and photographer. Before you all jump in…it wasn’t supposed to be that way. They are my neighbours, they have been married before and they are not photo people.

I offered to do it as a gift….not a guest…..unbeknown to me they then formally invited myself and my wife to the day and evening…uh oh! Should have bailed at that point but didn’t want to let them down at the short notice and they were happy with my skills and quite looking forward to me doing it……

It was a small group, about 30 people max. Wedding was arranged quickly and booked at a local Registry office, then on to a manor house venue for a buffet and drinks. Bride wore ivory, her young daughters were bridesmaids, no best man, and a few close family and friends.

Weather was bright sunshine outside, inside was low ceilings and dark….very dark and very warm

Informal reception, no speeches, no handouts, no first dance and not too worried about cake cutting…or so they said……:eek:

5dmk2, 580EXII for some bounce flash taking inspiration from NVK little black foamy thing….(I had sofboxes, backup camera, light stands etc)

What could possibly go wrong!!!!!:cuckoo:

Turned up at the brides house for the ‘getting ready shots’ at the agreed time……she opened the door already dressed and ready….”the car will be here in 20mins so where do you want me”…… “and can you take my daughters friend in your car”…..:help:

A quick 15 min photo session produced some, at best, ‘ok’ results…..not what we had planned…

Arrived at the registry office. Brides car turned up in the back of the venue (I was at the front where every other wedding car turns up) and out popped the bride and was mingling with her groom and guests…

None of the guests were inside so the bride was already amongst them…
The 25-30 guests were dispersed over about half an acre of grounds, the bridesmaids were nowhere to be seen, the bride just wanted to get some quick shots and the groom just wanted to get to the bar!!

A few quick group shots and into the reg office….boy was it warm,…everyone was wilting and smiles were few and far between…

Ceremony …..tiny reg office, done and dusted in a few minutes….ring shots…..the rings were whipped out of a plastic bag and placed on a cushion…daughter handed them to the B&G and then stood in front of me….I managed to step to the left and was sandwiched between a desk, plant pot and the daughter…just managed to get the rings going on, B&G hugging, kiss etc…phew:thumbs:

Dived out of the reg office to get B&G walking out hand in hand….errrr…..make that everyone coming out at same time.
Confetti and clapping……..errr…..none….in fact where had the B&G gone…they were in the car about to drive away already…..just managed to get a few car window shots…..

Jump in the car and head to the venue in hot pursuit….

Get to the venue, B&G are mingling so grab them for a few shots in the gazebo…..6 shots in and the groom has had enough….(I knew I had a couple in the bag so not too much of an issue)

“You can knock off now” I was told. “Come and have a beer as you are a guest” he said. What about the first dance and cake I asked…noooo…don’t worry about that….have a beer….:nono:

Thank god I kept the camera close as sure enough, cake cutting was a main event as it was cut using a traditional sword…..first dance was emotional and I managed to get a few of those as well despite everyone else joining the dance floor after the 1st 3 beats of the music and the brides maids again insisting on standing in front of me every time with their camera….

Fist dance finished….put camera down….all over……finished….and relax!!!!

So, did I enjoy it…..in a way yes. It’s great to shoot the day and try and capture the story. In other ways it was a nightmare…..

Was it a huge learning curve……Yes…like no other wedding I have shot. Small wedding party, small wedding venue and a very compressed time frame means you have to be quick on the spot.

The so called relaxed, informal wedding still follows a set of rules and key points, they just don’t seem to fall in the same structure / order so again you need to be super flexible and quick.

Not having a best man to help get people organised means its down to you….and if people know you as a guest they seem to be harder to organise. They all want a chat rather than following your lead.

Would I be a guest and a photographer again…..NO NO NO NO…(although I am committed to one other this year but the approach will definitely be different!)

Are the images any good?…….I am pleased with some, not pleased with some, and missed a few too…I don’t seem to have a single shot of the groom with his mother!!
:eek:

So all in all a bit of a nightmare day, lets hope they like the images!!!!

thougt i would share, dont know why lol!!!:lol::lol:

anyone else had a shocker.....?
 
anyone else had a shocker.....?

These problems are all familiar to any wedding photographer .... but all in the same wedding ! :gag:

Lol, I completely sympathise with you and having done weddings both officially and as a guest I can tell you the same rules apply, you have to take charge and where necessary get a bit bossy. If people don't like it at the time they will when they see the results (99% of the time they are glad someone with wedding experience is on hand to guide them and sort out the melee).
The biggest problem I find at weddings and as you found out is that after the ceremony a massive amount of built up tension falls away and everyone just wants to hit the bar and have a great time. Nothing wrong with that but you have to use a little persuasion to tell them that once you get the shots out of the way they can all go and relax.

Always a good idea between ceremony and reception to steal the B&G, best man and B'maids away from everyone else (especially parents and best mates, no offence but its true :naughty:) to a pre-arranged spot for some informals.

Well done anyway for getting keepers it sounds like you needed that drink later on. Phew ! :help:
 
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And this is why those who think wedding photography is easy are completely wrong! :D

Tbh you sound like you did the best you could so well done. The problem with being a guest / main tog was that you couldn't or didn't feel able to stamp your authority on things... by that I don't mean be the centre of attention, but take control of things and organise people. As someone unknown to the couple coming in and maybe more experienced would have been instructing people to stand over there, stop and get back in the church so it's just the B&G coming out etc... it's not easy when you're paid to be there so can only think of how hard / impossible your task was!

At least their laid back attitude towards it all will hopefully be reflected in their expectations of the images. I'm sure you did a decent job and they'll be thankful for your hard work and pics! :)
 
i agree with Andy. It seems the main thing lacking is that you need to be a lot more assertive and organising things.

I remember a friend of mine who is a good amateur asking if he could second shoot for me. Whilst his level of photography was good, his lack of experience soon showed when he naively assumed that the ushers would actually erm...usher. Nope in practice everyone is just getting lagered up, the B&G are busy talking to everyone and you need to just talk loudly, firmly but politely to get everyone's attention and doing what you want.

Guest or not, if you are the main tog then you will need to speak up.
 
completely agree.......i was too much in guest mode rather than photographer mode at certain points. Im certainly not shy or unassertive, but on this occasion it simply didnt work. Looking back on it it was quite amusing how all the groom wanted to do was hit the bar and get everyone on the drink lol!, and the bride wasnt too far behind. Great fun couple but wow...what strange day.

just editing some of the shots now and am more please with the result now....i will ask the B&G if they mind me posting some for critique....
 
Did a wedding for a former friend a few years ago...talk about the impossible - nothing went to plan - even the meet the night before was so badly planned we didn't meet - everything disorganised and I went to pieces because we were so behind time...Left my camera bag on a street corner with all my MF kit, wondered why the BMs car was taking so long - they'd picked up the bag and I was having a breakdown. Photos came out well considering she was wearing far too much mascara on a warm day -she basically ended up looking like a Panda. Never received any negative feedback re the shots, reprints sold well....

That was the last one I did.....
 
Lol excellent.....hats off to the pros who shoot these day in day out and get consistent results.... It ain't easy but for some reason I love it! Wish I could do more....
 
Lol excellent.....hats off to the pros who shoot these day in day out and get consistent results.... It ain't easy but for some reason I love it! Wish I could do more....


Its probably because they shoot them day in and day out that they get consistent results. The only way to get better at anything is practice, practice, practice.

The 6 P's

Plenty Practice Prevents P**s Poor Performance. Lol
 
I'm a believer that whilst you can practice you have to be a certain type of person to shoot a wedding. Slightly mad and very, very confident. Last week I managed to get 50 guests back into the church, all in position for a huge group photo. Then group shots by the altar. They just wanted the bar haha!

Not one wedding has ever gone smoothly and I kind of thrive off that pressure.
 
I'm a believer that whilst you can practice you have to be a certain type of person to shoot a wedding. Slightly mad and very, very confident. Last week I managed to get 50 guests back into the church, all in position for a huge group photo. Then group shots by the altar. They just wanted the bar haha!

Not one wedding has ever gone smoothly and I kind of thrive off that pressure.

That too. I didn't mention it because the confidence thing goes without saying. That's not too say you should ever get too cocky, some nervous energy is a good thing and keeps you focused (pardon the pun)

Talking of nervous energy the biggest group shot I had to do was about 140 :eek: and that was in the film days with no quick review screens. Did I get a shot with all 140 looking at the camera ? Pretty much and with the aid of the good old referees whistle. Oh yeah baby! that gets there attention :naughty: .... no they didn't all look like rabbits in the headlights, lol, you wait a few seconds after the blast for there expressions to relax, fire off a few and usually get a keeper.

Good points though Freefall.
 
Ahh the good old group shot! My most difficult first one so far was trying to cram about 60 people on to this staircase... bit of a tight squeeze!

Excuse the crap low res flickr image:

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Nicely done, i like it. If you could have juuuuust squeeeezed another couple of inches at the sides ! ....but hey you work with what you get eh?
 
Shooting for freinds and family is definitely a b****r - as you rightly say you can be guest or tog but not both.

I did my sisters wedding and it was considerably more stressful than doing one for stangers (for example at a strangers wedding the mother of the bride isnt likely to hand you a tray of sandwiches and say "hold that" just before the cake cutting starts )

Also talking of wedding nightmares I did my wifes cousins wedding and as they had no contingency arrangements felt i had no choice but to do the shoot despite suffering from a norrovirus and having a stupidly high fever. ( If it had been paid i'd have asked a fellow tog to take over, but you can't do that with a freebie)

Its not the easiest thing to have to go out to be sick six times during the reception, but still get all the main highlights of speeches , cake cutting etc. That was also the wedding where i later discovered that i'd forgotten to take one of the bodies (fortunately not the main one) off iso 1600 after the inside church shoot , and also managed to set +2ev instead of -2EV (again not on the main body thank **** ) and shot a whole set of group shots over exposed :bang: (very fortunately of my wifes family which meant that they didnt really matter in the big scheme of things - if that had been the bridal portraits i'd have been screwed )
 
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Lol I no longer feel alone hahaha!!!!

Great shot and tales......

I have one shot of the grooms mum...... With a lamppost sticking out of her head...... Photoshop here I come!!!

Another lesson...... Never shoot in front of a laurel bush so that the top of the bush is shoulder height with the subject.....but that's where she wanted them gggrrrr!!!!
 
Haha yeah sadly this was literally all I could do as was right back against the wall behind me. Also wish the lass on the left wasn't pulling a daft face :D

I would have shot two and stitched them together :thumbs:
 
After several Heart attacks and more than six hours of surgery, I no longer "Do" Weddings.

Still available for War zones though!
 
The 6 P's

Plenty Practice Prevents P**s Poor Performance. Lol

Or the obverse

P**s
Poor
Planning
Prevents
Peak
Performance

Hats off to the pros doing weddings!!!


Interesting thread and a good read TY

Steve
 
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Never ask the bride to sit on your alum camera case while u set up a shot ,case bust open bride landed on and destroyed my sunpak hamerhead . Could do nothing right after that, absolute nightmare.
 
Greg, that is probably the best description of being a guest and the photographer at a wedding I have seen.

Anyone who thinks they can do it for a mate should read your post.

Glad you got some good shots.

Dave
 
Good read! Certainly not envious of being in that position!

I've had a few friends marry recently, opposed to doing it as a gift I gave them some decent 'mates rates' and get a contract signed.

The thought being that as their still forking out some money, they give the photography a little more consideration during the day.
 
Don't envy photographers at all after yesterday at a wedding! The bride was a nightmare for him. I heard her say no more pictures to his reply I have not taken many and we need some more and some family must haves. Her reply well you can do it without me!! Jeez what a nightmare for him.
 
I photographed a wedding once where I was also my mates best man.

However it was 30 years ago. There were about 4 of us at the wedding & we all went to the pub after the registry wedding.

I think I took a couple of pics on an old instamatic with the bride trying to hide her big preggo bump.

I often wonder what happened to them!
 
My ex-boss has just emailed my asking to do some shots as he is renewing his vows after 25 years and I vowed never to do another wedding after my first. It was terrible, badly organised on the cheap literally - the whole wedding party of twenty or so guest left after the photos of the actual wedding which poured with rain and had their MAIN sit down meal in McDonald's drive through leaving me and my wife waiting in the car at the registrar office. At the time we were told they were going home to change. At the reception later which was run down and a dive people were openly smoking drugs and the cake fell over due to heat of the room, at which point there was a fight because the groom wanted to eat the cake that someone had walked on. Never ever been to a more bizarre wedding which made eastenders ordinary. I made no money in fact the day cost me because my wife had to leave work early without pay. My "friend" said he would see us alright but never even got a thank you card or thanks on the day. Not so worried about my ex-boss as different kettle of fish but has put me off weddings somewhat.
 
I have nothing but total respect for photographers that manage to deal with a situation that could be likened to herding cats and still come out of the day with images good enough for print.
 
Excellent, stories.... Finished processing the images and so far so good. Still can't find one of the grooms mum that's of any quality though lol!

It gets better..... So after spending hours processing them and colour profiling them to a printers I bumped into them and they are looking forward to getting the images and printing them on their home (bog standard) printer....

Even after explaining the process to them at the beginning re colour checking / profiles / print quality etc.......

Still, all part of wedding photography I suppose ....
 
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