wedding tog sued

This story has even made the news in prime time Australia.....this guy can't even leave the country to find work now !
 
leeroy said:
and anyone can copy another togs poses/pics but when it comes to the crunch.
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Probably get slated for saying this but don't a lot of pros do this ?, i was at a wedding fare the weekend with lot's of different photographers stalls, and the amount of photos posed the same by different photographers was very evident, at the end of the day it's quite rare to see original poses nowadays as lots of people copy others, whether it is right or wrong is another subject.

I agree though if he gave the couple the duff one's he had shot that day he was asking for trouble, what i can't understand was the few i seen on the website (before it went down) looked ok unless i was looking at the wrong site that is :lol:
 
TG. said:
Probably get slated for saying this but don't a lot of pros do this ?, i was at a wedding fare the weekend with lot's of different photographers stalls, and the amount of photos posed the same by different photographers was very evident, at the end of the day it's quite rare to see original poses nowadays as lots of people copy others, whether it is right or wrong is another subject.

I agree though if he gave the couple the duff one's he had shot that day he was asking for trouble, what i can't understand was the few i seen on the website (before it went down) looked ok unless i was looking at the wrong site that is :lol:
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You forget, we are a nation of people who get a thrill out of watching someone fail, the more spectacular the better. You only have to read some of the posts in this thread to see that. I too thought some of his web site pictures were ok but like I said in a previous post, the newspapers sell by their thousands when they are pulling someone to bits so I suspect they wont have pounced on anything good he may have done. We wouldn't want to read about that would we.

We are a nation dictated to by the press and we are influenced by them in all walks of life.

As you can probably tell, I am not a great fan of the British press therefore I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw 'em.
 
Quaker said:
You forget, we are a nation of people who get a thrill out of watching someone fail, the more spectacular the better. You only have to read some of the posts in this thread to see that. I too thought some of his web site pictures were ok but like I said in a previous post, the newspapers sell by their thousands when they are pulling someone to bits so I suspect they wont have pounced on anything good he may have done. We wouldn't want to read about that would we.

We are a nation dictated to by the press and we are influenced by them in all walks of life.

As you can probably tell, I am not a great fan of the British press therefore I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw 'em.
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Agree wholeheartedly with what your saying, as i did your last post, however i stick by what i said, if he is classing himself as a pro he should have made sure he had sorted the wheat from the chaff first, and certainly shouldn't have given the dud's to the couple, which i would suspect is how they knew they had a good case against him, and proceeded to pass on the said photos to the press.
 
TG. said:
as a pro he should have made sure he had sorted the wheat from the chaff first, and certainly shouldn't have given the dud's to the couple, which i would suspect is how they knew they had a good case against him, and proceeded to pass on the said photos to the press.
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Can't argue with that.
 
TG. said:
Probably get slated for saying this but don't a lot of pros do this ?, i was at a wedding fare the weekend with lot's of different photographers stalls, and the amount of photos posed the same by different photographers was very evident, at the end of the day it's quite rare to see original poses nowadays as lots of people copy others, whether it is right or wrong is another subject.

I agree though if he gave the couple the duff one's he had shot that day he was asking for trouble, what i can't understand was the few i seen on the website (before it went down) looked ok unless i was looking at the wrong site that is :lol:
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Theres a finite number of poses really (that work) so theres bound to be some repetition, yes you can sometimes add a "gimicky" one like getting them on a bus, jetski or dodgem cars or something, but while these are fun many people expect certain shots and will moan if they are not taken.
 
Quaker said:
Those wedding togs amongst you, how would you react if the press got hold of the photo's you ditched and portrayed them as the best of the bunch?
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The phootgraphs I ditch, are deleted from my hard drive. This tog presented them to the couple - big difference. The other difference is the numbers - Currently, If I shoot 400, I ditch roughly 20 for blinks, exposure etc.. How many did this photographer ditch? Its quite a different hit rate
 
the £4000 on kit is a red herring

Its not the kit, it is the photographer

10 years ago, people aspired to own a nikon D1, and professional photographers shot weddings on them. Nowadays, a D1 isnt good enough. If it was good enough for a pro 10 years ago, and customers liked the results, why not today?

One of the best shots I ever took was on a Nikon 995. I still regularly shoot film on a very old camera

The photogrpaher in question didnt understand exposure or composition, a £4, £40, £400, £4000 or £40000 camera would not change this
 
Richard King said:
Its not the kit, it is the photographer

10 years ago, people aspired to own a nikon D1, and professional photographers shot weddings on them. Nowadays, a D1 isnt good enough. If it was good enough for a pro 10 years ago, and customers liked the results, why not today?....

The photogrpaher in question didnt understand exposure or composition, a £4, £40, £400, £4000 or £40000 camera would not change this
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Such a true statement, so many people just think about the kit they want rather than what they already have, (myself included) i always said i got some of my best shots with my old D50, i think if a lot of us got to know the kit we have we may surprise ourselves :)
 
I bet you can't guess, in a million years, who is back in town????

Go one, can ya guess? Betcha can't!!!!!

ok, yes you guessed it...... Mr Bowers is back trading again ..............

http://www.freshimages.eu/

And I wonder if Mr Stevie Wonder has given Mr Bowers a licence to use his music on the website???
 
Unreal....
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MarkyP said:
I bet you can't guess, in a million years, who is back in town????

Go one, can ya guess? Betcha can't!!!!!

ok, yes you guessed it...... Mr Bowers is back trading again ..............

http://www.freshimages.eu/

And I wonder if Mr Stevie Wonder has given Mr Bowers a licence to use his music on the website???
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you'll forgive me for making this observation - but just looking through his gallerys - OK they're not the best, but they're nowhere near as bad as the images he got sued for.............................wonder where he got them from (comments with a big dose of allegedly.)

Hugh
 
Yv said:
well no doubt we can find out answers to all these questions when he comes investigating all the referrals on his web stats ;)
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To say we don't promote the criticism of work when the original photographer isn't here... we sure know how to entice them ;):D
 
I have a local "wedding" photographer bringing me a disk of images that are "very dark" to try and save for them, apparently somebody at the wedding altered their camera and they didn't know how to set it back (I'm guessing exposure compensation?) anyway they knew they they were too dark but had to keep shooting on that setting because they didn't really know how their camera worked. I cease to be amazed these days.
 
Let him keep shooting, he may improve with experience and with all the tips he is getting from this forum he may become one of the best......................














Why do I think my post will be taken seriously?
 
swanseamale47 said:
I have a local "wedding" photographer bringing me a disk of images that are "very dark" to try and save for them, apparently somebody at the wedding altered their camera and they didn't know how to set it back (I'm guessing exposure compensation?) anyway they knew they they were too dark but had to keep shooting on that setting because they didn't really know how their camera worked. I cease to be amazed these days.
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That made me smile - when I bought my first DSLR I went on holiday (hadn't dumped the film quite by then) and as I'd been messing with it - without reading the manual of course :D - I managed to dial in -2 stops of Exp Comp and fired away cursing the damn thing for hours, shooting on manual to compensate and just hoping the rear screen and this 'histogram' thingey weren't lying to me

Until I got the manual out I didn't even know it did Exp Comp :bonk:

DD
 
swanseamale47 said:
Theres a finite number of poses really (that work) so theres bound to be some repetition, yes you can sometimes add a "gimicky" one like getting them on a bus, jetski or dodgem cars or something, but while these are fun many people expect certain shots and will moan if they are not taken.
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Hmmmm, a jetski eh!? I might have to try that one...
 
Holy Molly they are bad!! I've only just come accross this thread. Hopefully the next people who hire him get a better service
 
Ouch!

To be fair, some parts of the video are ok... not amazing but they're ok. However, the editing wasn't.

The photos....wow... How did the dress get so blown out - did he set the white balance to the dress or something? The images on the website....possibly taken by the same person (you'll notice that the dresses are all blown out) but not as bad as the ones in the newpapers. Having worked for a newspaper (which makes me cringe to admit) they will have, of course, used the worst ones only.
 
Richard King said:
10 years ago, people aspired to own a nikon D1, and professional photographers shot weddings on them. Nowadays, a D1 isnt good enough. If it was good enough for a pro 10 years ago, and customers liked the results, why not today?
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I agree. A few years ago when I though I wanted to get into digital, I bought a Nikon D100. At the time there was an article in Amateur Photographer which featured a wedding photographer who stated that the D100 was the ideal camera for weddings and that they had sold their Fuji S3s and replaced them with D100s.

I wonder how many people now would agree that the D100 is ideal for weddings? The camera hasn't changed and weddings haven't changed but people's lust for new equipment has.

I have only done two weddings - both on film with a 20 year old RB67 - perfect!


Steve.
 
Steve Smith said:
I wonder how many people now would agree that the D100 is ideal for weddings? The camera hasn't changed and weddings haven't changed but people's lust for new equipment has.


Steve.
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I don't think thats all together true nowdays - its not just a lust for new kit at all - but the current crop of bodies allows me to shoot in ways that just weren't possible even 3 years ago (particularly in low light) and produce more compelling photography as a result (at least I'd like to think it allows me too :shrug:)

Hugh
 
willbaroo said:
The sceptic in me wonders how much he gets for having all his pictures in the press??!?

Not unless of course there was somthing mentioned in his contract saying the B&G can use the photos as they please!
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If he's hired to take photos, doesn't the copyright belong to the client?
 
willbaroo said:
The sceptic in me wonders how much he gets for having all his pictures in the press??!?

Not unless of course there was somthing mentioned in his contract saying the B&G can use the photos as they please!
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the press can use pictures without paying the copyright fee if it is in "public interest"
 
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