WBMT.....What baffled me today

[Nod]

ASDA fuel tanker fills up with Shell petrol. Does that mean supermarket petrol aren't good enough???

Not sure that will go very well on ANY sort of "petrol"...

 

[Box Brownie]

Nit picker.....

Wracking my brains when I used to visit customers near the Fawley refinery (Shell?) the fuel station there also had supermarket tankers stopping to 'fill up'

 

[Marc]

People will always attack people with double standards human nature.

Where are the double standards?

 

[Cobra]

Where are the double standards?

As pointed out previously

 

[Marc]

As pointed out previously

I'm not talking about horse riding (although there are no double standards there anyway), my reply (which you quoted) was regarding your "5 minutes of fame" comment.

 

[Cobra]

I'm not talking about horse riding (although there are no double standards there anyway),

Go read the vegan handbook

was regarding your "5 minutes of fame" comment.

I never said anything about double standards when I said

Unfortunately she left herself wide open to scrutiny, when seeking her 5 minutes of fame, by declaring that she was a vegan.

That was a separate part quoted.

 

[Marc]

Go read the vegan handbook

I don't need any handbook to tell me whether there are double standards or not.

I never said anything about double standards when I said

That was a separate part quoted.

My point was that you said "when seeking her 5 minutes of fame to which I replied that it was a bit harsh. It was to that which you mentioned double standards.

 

[Cobra]

My point was that you said "when seeking her 5 minutes of fame to which I replied that it was a bit harsh. It was to that which you mentioned double standards.

For the last time, don't you get bored trying to contradict / argue with something I never said?

I never said anything about double standards when I said

Cobra said:
Unfortunately she left herself wide open to scrutiny, when seeking her 5 minutes of fame, by declaring that she was a vegan.

 

[Marc]

Unfortunately she left herself wide open to scrutiny, when seeking her 5 minutes of fame, by declaring that she was a vegan.

A bit harsh. If she's going on a baking show, it stands to reason that it will become known that she's a vegan.

People will always attack people with double standards human nature.

My bold

 

[Deleted member 26215]

An incident from 2018 which still baffles me today.

Why would a senior member of staff at an Internet Service Providers send a customer an email after that customer has already informed the senior member of staff that their broadband does not work. So therefore logic dictates that if the customers broadband does not work then the customer cannot read or respond to an email.

Not only that, but the senior member of staff then leaves a voice mail on the aforementioned customers mobile phone telling them that they have sent them an email that they would like to discuss with the customer and could they please respond.

The number displayed on the mobile phone was withheld.
The senior member of staff did not leave a contact number in the voicemail.
The senior member of staffs name was drowned out by all the background noise in the voicemail.
The customer cannot read or respond to the email, because the customer is unable to connect to the internet.

 

[Nod]

Why would a senior member of staff at an Internet Service Providers send a customer an email after that customer has already informed the senior member of staff that their broadband does not work.

Many people with home BB have other means of accessing e-mails; mobile phones and work computers being the 2 that spring immediately to mind.

 

[Earley Man]

Nit picker.....

Wracking my brains when I used to visit customers near the Fawley refinery (Shell?) the fuel station there also had supermarket tankers stopping to 'fill up'

Fawley is an Esso refinery. In the 1970's their ocean going tankers were "hard working" vessels and the crews used to say that ESSO stood for Eat, Sleep. Sh*t and Overtime.

 

[JohnC6]

It's likely because she would be using leather tack or at least a leather saddle .
You know that tough animal based product.

Plenty of synthetic saddles around and a hell of a lot cheaper than leather.

I looked into it. Here's the answer below. As Marc says..taking things to an extreme. I suspect those who posted abusive messages on the girls FB page are an extreme minority. I've never of it before.

I did say in the Dolphin thread that, along with some other 'sports' involving animals/birds I oppose horse racing. I live 9 miles from Cheltenham race course and one year six horses died over a three-day meeting which the organisers describe as a 'festival'. ..same as the Pamplona bull running is called a 'festival' ..The San Fermin Festival. I have a friend who was a civilain van driver for the Glos police and they offered him overtime at weekend race meetings and he would't do it because of his opposition to the events. I'll just add this fact..more out of interest because I doubt many people are aware.

Approximately 200 horses die every year on British racecourses. A horse's heartbeat can increase tenfold during a race – from 25 beats per minute to an excessive 250 beats – leading to total exhaustion and sometimes collapse.

I think horses are wonderful animals and to think they are, basically, killed just so the racing/betting industry profits is unacceptable. Apart from the excessive heart beat factor theree are steeplechase events where they can fall which can result in serious injury or death. Therfe's the issue of whipping too. My friend , the van driver, told me that often they are put dow sometimes on the racecourse (they shield the horse from the public) because unless it's dead the insurance won't pay out. If that's true or not I don't know. Then, after a horse or horses have died I see management come on TV telling viewers that it's very sad when a horse dies and that the safety of the horses is paramount. Cobblers. What is paramount is their profits. I think of the horse leaving the stables on the morning of the race never to return. and also..

Since 2000 69 horses have died at the Cheltenham Races. It's considered to be the worst racecourse in the country for deaths.

Grim Stats The headline figure of 2293 horse deaths is the total since March 13 2007. https://www.horsedeathwatch.com

Vegans (some) reasons for opposing horse riding .Taken from a Vegan website re the subject:

To use any animal for our own entertainment is exploitation, and therefore not vegan. Exploitation does not necessarily mean abuse, it means using someone else for your own benefit. ... She says: “When I became vegan, I stopped riding horses – in the same way I stopped eating animals and wearing wool and leather.

Here's the young lady who took part in the BBC Vegan Bake Off.

Great British Bake Off Welcomes Vegan Contestant For 1st Time

Hit baking show, The Great British Bake Off will feature vegan contestant Freya Cox on next week's first episode of the 2021 show.

plantbasednews.org

 

[JohnC6]

IIRC there are some vegans who display PETA levels of abuse/vitriol to anyone who is not one of them.

Since I was made aware of some aspects of PETA I've looked into their activities and statements and they do appear to be extreme.

 

[Cobra]

My bold

I've given up trying to figure out how the hell you made the massive leap from my "5 minutes of fame" to double standards.

 

[john.margetts]

I bought a 'new' iMac 7.1 as Bestbeloved and I fight over the current iMac. It is just for emails so spec was not important - Bestbeloved can spend 5 or 6 hours on her emails which can be beyond annoying when I have a load of Raw files to upload and edit.

So, iMac comes without keyboard. No problem, keyboards are cheap enough. Bought a Bluetooth keyboard. To use the keyboard, I needed to make the keyboard and computer talk to each other. To do that I need to confirm the Bluetooth connection on the iMac. First, I need to log onto the iMac, using the keyboard. But the keyboard won't work yet so I cannot log on and cannot confirm the Bluetooth connection.

Fortunately, I am quite friendly with Bestbeloved who made me a cup of tea to calm me down and slipped next door to borrow a USB keyboard just so as I could log on and confirm the Bluetooth connection. Now works perfectly.

 

[Marc]

I've given up trying to figure out how the hell you made the massive leap from my "5 minutes of fame" to double standards.

How's it a massive leap? You said "5 minutes of fame", I said it was a bit harsh and you replied with "People will always attack people with double standards" after which I said that I didn't believe it was double standards and you prattled on about some vegan handbook (couldn't find it on Amazon btw). Where's the leap?

Hope you had a good night's sleep and aren't as grumpy this morning.

 

[Deleted member 26215]

@Cobra @Marc It's about time someone knocked your heads together. Maybe then you will stop behaving like petulant 5 year old brats.

 

[Marc]

@Cobra @Marc It's about time someone knocked your heads together. Maybe then you will stop behaving like petulant 5 year old brats.

Nobody asked your opinion.

 

[Cobra]

How's it a massive leap? You said "5 minutes of fame", I said it was a bit harsh and you replied with "People will always attack people with double standards" after which I said that I didn't believe it was double standards

I never said that you decided I did and went on to confuse one quote with the other.
Lets try pictures

A completely separate point from this one, you are confusing one with the other



And with that I have better things to do than try and get you to understand

 

[Marc]

I never said that you decided I did and went on to confuse one quote with the other.
Lets try pictures
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A completely separate point from this one, you are confusing one with the other

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And with that I have better things to do than try and get you to understand

PMSL! You've once again posted saying that you didn't say something and posted pictures of your posts saying those very things.

 

[Cobra]

PMSL! You've once again posted saying that you didn't say something and posted pictures of your posts saying those very things.

You really don't get it do you, how different the quoted posts are

 

[Box Brownie]

@Cobra & @Marc

Gentlemen

Isn't there a staff coffee room with to scoff and resolve this.......rather than debate it "here".

 

[Cobra]

WBMT? ( and not only today either)

Drivers turning left, that don't look left before pulling out.
Learner driver turning left ( they were on my right) as I was overtaking a parked van,
I saw them look right and turn left, I'd pretty overtaken the van at this point, but was still partially over the white line,
as I returned to "my side"
They saw me as they actually looked which way they were going.
Upshot of this, instead of braking they drove a few yards with 2 wheels on the pavement.

The test center is further down the road that they had turned out of,
but then again instructors do often drive past the test center to let their pupils see it
so who knows for sure ...

 

[Deleted member 26215]

but as before, in the previous thread, we are all hoping to get the emphasis of TP back to "photography.
And photo sharing".

As a joint owner maybe you could lead by example.

 

[Sky]

WBMT is why a photographer would tell a beginner not to bother learning how to use a camera in manual. :banghead:

 

[Cobra]

As a joint owner maybe you could lead by example.

One thing @Marc and I agree on, you were told to butt out.
Besides the discussion is done and dusted, we agreed to disagree and move on.
But you sort to resurrected by quoting from a thread a few months old.

From the rules

• If a moderator posts with an instruction, don't ignore it.

 

[Nod]

Not helpful so deleted.

 

[Cobra]

Not helpful so deleted.

Exactly my thoughts too @Nod
But of course his request has been approved

 

[Nod]

 

[JohnC6]

WBMT? ( and not only today either)

Drivers turning left, that don't look left before pulling out.
Learner driver turning left ( they were on my right) as I was overtaking a parked van,
I saw them look right and turn left, I'd pretty overtaken the van at this point, but was still partially over the white line,
as I returned to "my side"
They saw me as they actually looked which way they were going.
Upshot of this, instead of braking they drove a few yards with 2 wheels on the pavement.

The test center is further down the road that they had turned out of,
but then again instructors do often drive past the test center to let their pupils see it
so who knows for sure ...

I think quite a lot of drivers,when coming out of a 'side' road turning left only look right and don't turn their head left until they are in the process of making the turn, which, unfortunately, can sometimes be too late when an oncoming vehicle is on it's offside. It doesn't occur to them that vehicles travelling from the left can be overtaking. Normally, it's not good to overtake when approaching a junction but in your case you had to overtake a parked van. Not a good place to park but I don't know the road you were on. In the year April 2019 to 2020 the pass rate for those on a driving test was 46% and the most common cause of failure were actions/failures at a junction. In 2019 failing to look properly accounted for 37% of accidents or rather incidents as they're now call and not before time when you consider that that 99.9% (my 'out of thin air' figure..lol) are caused by driver error.

I wonder if the leaner driver looked right and started to pull out before the instruction could tell hime/her to check left. ? What a risky job

 

[Marc]

WBMT? ( and not only today either)

Drivers turning left, that don't look left before pulling out.
Learner driver turning left ( they were on my right) as I was overtaking a parked van,
I saw them look right and turn left, I'd pretty overtaken the van at this point, but was still partially over the white line,
as I returned to "my side"
They saw me as they actually looked which way they were going.
Upshot of this, instead of braking they drove a few yards with 2 wheels on the pavement.

The test center is further down the road that they had turned out of,
but then again instructors do often drive past the test center to let their pupils see it
so who knows for sure ...

Similar to what you're talking about. In this case, the truck is over to the right as it's going to reverse into the turning but the principle's the same. The clip is at 2:35

 

[Box Brownie]

^^^^^ above turning left, hazard.

Quite apart from actually observing any potential hazards on the road being entered, a good driver should check that they have not got a cyclist on the left between them and the kerb.

I would sincerely hope that new learners are being taught to not move, when turning left out of a junction, until they have actually looked left to confirm that the way is fully clear both on the, to be entered road and the space on the road they are on!

 

[JohnC6]

Some may find this baffling..hence posting it here.

Yesterday, the Business Secretary, Kwarsi Kwarteng, struck a deal with a major US-owned fertiliser manufacturer, CF Fertilisers, who have two plants in Teeside and another in Cheshire with the aim of ensuring that the supply of CO2 for the food sector continues amidst the energy crisis. The company accounts for 60% of UK CO2 supply . Seems that it was costing them more in gas charges to run the plants than they could sell the fertiliser for. This subsidy could cost the taxpayer millions of pounds.The deal only applies to one of the plants..at Billingham,Teeside.. not the second one there nor the one near Ellesmere Port,Cheshire. There's a Norwegian fertiliser company, Yara, located in Hull, that is reducing production.

Of course, I'm aware that CO2 is a by-product of the manufacture of fertiliser..but I just had to have a chuckle...one could say, also baffled, with the irony of Mr Kwarteng having a meeting yesterday with the US company to restart production and supply of CO2 when world leaders meet at the COP26 Conference in Glasgow at the beginning of November to cut carbon dioxide production. Funny old world

 

[Box Brownie]

Some may find this baffling..hence posting it here.

Yesterday, the Business Secretary, Kwarsi Kwarteng, struck a deal with a major US-owned fertiliser manufacturer, CF Fertilisers, who have two plants in Teeside and another in Cheshire with the aim of ensuring that the supply of CO2 for the food sector continues amidst the energy crisis. The company accounts for 60% of UK CO2 supply . Seems that it was costing them more in gas charges to run the plants than they could sell the fertiliser for. This subsidy could cost the taxpayer millions of pounds.The deal only applies to one of the plants..at Billingham,Teeside.. not the second one there nor the one near Ellesmere Port,Cheshire. There's a Norwegian fertiliser company, Yara, located in Hull, that is reducing production.

Of course, I'm aware that CO2 is a by-product of the manufacture of fertiliser..but I just had to have a chuckle...one could say, also baffled, with the irony of Mr Kwarteng having a meeting yesterday with the US company to restart production and supply of CO2 when world leaders meet at the COP26 Conference in Glasgow at the beginning of November to cut carbon dioxide production. Funny old world

Yes, there are some strange 'disconnects' in the world.

Having said that of or about CO2, I wonder how the waste by product output CO2 from fertiliser manufacturing compares in tonnage terms to the amount generated as pollutant from ICE in motor vehicles?

 

[JohnC6]

At the end of our road is a T junction and to the left ,poorly-placed and close to the junct is an electricity junction box about 4' tall..enough to restrict but not totally block the view to the left so a driver has to inch forward to get a view..that is..unless the foliage at the base of the tree a few feet further on doesn't block the view. It grows to a couple of feet and is dense and totally blocks the view. Twice I've gone with secateurs to cut it down and a friend has also done that. It's not something that can wait until the Highways dept send someone to do it. The most at risk are motorcyclists. Infact, only last week I saw a man doing the very same thing with tree base foliage right by the entrance to a courtyard surrounded by housing. I thought, well done that man. Just a quickie on the same subject. I'd say that most direction signs are either totally or partially covered by overgrown roadside folaige. It's become quite bad. I reported one instance of it when I was passing through Marlborough and a huge direction sign..the large green ones, in Salisbury road on the approach to a roundabout was all but covered by the foliage of a tree. The young man in the council/highways office in Swindon who I spoke to was able to look at it with a roadside CCTV camera and promised to get it sorted which it was. A result, as they say in footballing circles.

 

[Krisstiffer]

WBMT - looking at a pack of sliced ham - 8 slices in a pack but the nutrition label gives values for one third of a pack........ 2 and 2/3rds slices of ham for tea anybody?

 

[JohnC6]

Yes, there are some strange 'disconnects' in the world.

Having said that of or about CO2, I wonder how the waste by product output CO2 from fertiliser manufacturing compares in tonnage terms to the amount generated as pollutant from ICE in motor vehicles?

Now that's a challenge to me, Laurence..lol.

I love this..A fertiliser plant in Kansas produces,as a by-product, 1.4 million tons of CO2 annually. It sells 600,000 tons of it to..er..a nearby crude oil production plant.

As for cars. A car which clocks up 11,000 miles a year emits 4.6 metric tons of CO2.
Globally, cars produce 1 billion tons of CO2 annually which accounts for 2.5% of total CO2 emissions. Transport in general..29%

 

[Box Brownie]

Now that's a challenge to me, Laurence..lol.

I love this..A fertiliser plant in Kansas produces,as a by-product, 1.4 million tons of CO2 annually. It sells 600,000 tons of it to..er..a nearby crude oil production plant.

As for cars. A car which clocks up 11,000 miles a year emits 4.6 metric tons of CO2.
Globally, cars produce 1 billion tons of CO2 annually which accounts for 2.5% of total CO2 emissions. Transport in general..29%

Thanks for doing the research

I hope & surmise that the fertiliser byproduct produced CO2 is a modest fraction of the global pollutant production from ICE's

 

[Cobra]

I would sincerely hope that new learners are being taught to not move, when turning left out of a junction, until they have actually looked left

Me too, but obviously this one hadn't got to that lesson yet :rolleyes

ham for tea anybody?

Ham and eggs Mmmm