WANTED: student or very cheap wedding photographer

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Another possible way to consider this scenario is this; would you choose to take on a job for £150 (with no other costs to you) or would you prefer not have a job at all on that day...?
That depends on what you could be doing on that day.

Let's assume we have a wedding photographer who charges £1,500 a day. After a while you'll start to think in terms of your days being 'worth' that much money. So when you do something similar for less, you're losing out.

I think a lot of people would have that mentality. Especially when you're doing something you'd normally do for a lot less than you'd normally charge.

It still doesn't defend or explain the 'debate' that RV opened up from seemingly nowhere, but you can sort of understand his point, even if it wasn't applicable to the OP's predicament.
 
Some here have made the point about having their gas boiler replaced, but only having £200 to do it and still wanting it done. However, that argument falls down due to (1) legal regulations of installing such a system (of which there are none with wedding photography) and (2) the cost of materials. It might be that there would be a gas fitter who would offer his/her time at this price to do this, but the job could not be completed for that price.

I'm a self employed commercial gas engineer and I'd rather offer my services for £150 for a day's work rather than sitting at home. If someone phoned and asked if we (my business partner and I) could do a job for £150 that would usually cost £500 then if we were quiet we'd consider it a good result...... and we're proffessionals, not amateurs :D
To be honest £150 for a student or amateur for a day's work is good money whichever way you look at it.
 
That depends on what you could be doing on that day.

Let's assume we have a wedding photographer who charges £1,500 a day. After a while you'll start to think in terms of your days being 'worth' that much money. So when you do something similar for less, you're losing out.

I think a lot of people would have that mentality. Especially when you're doing something you'd normally do for a lot less than you'd normally charge.

It still doesn't defend or explain the 'debate' that RV opened up from seemingly nowhere, but you can sort of understand his point, even if it wasn't applicable to the OP's predicament.


Yes but thats exactly the point, the sort of photographer the OP is looking for and stated umpteen times, is not one that is likely to be earning even £300 a day, never mind £1500, on any given day. She hasn't asked for a pro to be charitable, she has asked for a student or keen amateur to step forward and help out!

Hell, if it wasn't for the fact its the same weekend as the convention, I would do it just because I know what it feels like marrying on a budget, I did it, years ago, and the only pics I have are from a few family cameras. [it did end in divorce mind, so not all bad news :lol: ]


Good Luck Gem, I am sure there will be someone here that can help you out and produce some good quality shots for your big day :thumbs:
 
so has this person been lucky enough to find someone who can do it.
i'm part of a pro outfit by the way.
and not offended in the least that this lady cannot afford a pro.
and i couldnt afford a pro whem i got marreid either.(23 years ago).
a freind of my dads did it for £40. reasonable photos.
the afternoon reception wsa at the wifes mums.
and the night time, a buffet in a pub , back room.
come on, theres enough students/talented ams out there to help this lady out surely.
i'm sure she isnt expecting earth shattering quality from the shoot . juts decent shots to record the day.
 
Well I have read this thread with a great deal of interest. I was a full-time social photographer for a number of years and I usually did one or two very low priced wedding packages for young couples who could were working to a budget, i suppose it was a bit like a lawyer doing pro bono work. I just covered my expenses and the costs of the film and printing. I usually only did this if I was free or if it was a date that I did not expect to fill (normally a midweek date) and it had to be a genuine budget wedding, if I found out they were scrimping on the photography to enable more money to be spent on a lavish reception then I would not do it.

One of my favourite assignments was for a young bride and groom who were so hard up that they decided to have a midweek registry office wedding and to keep the costs down they had not invited any guests, not one. They bought some new off the peg clothes (nice but not spectacular or expensive), they drove themselves there and back, and to celebrate afterwards went into the City Centre for a meal. They wanted some photographs to mark the occasion and to show their families later. I agreed to shoot a 36 exposure 35mm film, print them to 5 x 7 and put 18 of them in a Lincoln Princess album for them, total cost for this was about £100. How much did I make that day, NOTHING AT ALL, although I did get a couple of weddings later from friend of theirs when they saw the photographs.

Couple of funny things about the day, they forgot that they would need witnesses, so the registrar asked them to go out and find someone, but it was one of the wettest days of the year and there was absolutely no one around, so my wife (who because of the rain had agreed to assist me and hold a brolly etc) and I ended up being their witnesses, and I had to teach the registrar how to take a shot with my outfit so that they were able to get a picture of them with their witnesses (us).

Why was it one of my favourite weddings? Well it was obvious they were very much in love, most of the photographs were very intimate and quite emotional (almost like doing a portrait session for an engagement but in a wedding environment), the weather also gave some great reflections and some lovely shots together under a brolly, together out looking for a witness and the final shot of them before they left, sat in their red car with the brides red & cream flowers on the top of the dashboard with the bride wearing a cream suit and the groom in a grey suit with a red buttonhole which was slightly blurred from the defocussed rain on the windscreen is one of my favourite ever wedding shots.

Oh and Royston, you must be really insecure if you think that you really need 3 professional bodies with backups (what's that then 6?) to do a wedding, I was doing weddings regularly from the early 80s until the late 90s and I only ever had 2 bodies of whatever type I was shooting (2x 35mm or 2x Blads), I never had a problem, quess I must have just been lucky?

gemc: It is a pity I am not closer, I would have done it for you if I had the date free, and I am sure you would have been more than pleased with the results!
 
:clap:well done Ed!:clap:

brought a tear to my eye
 
Yes but thats exactly the point, the sort of photographer the OP is looking for and stated umpteen times, is not one that is likely to be earning even £300 a day, never mind £1500, on any given day. She hasn't asked for a pro to be charitable, she has asked for a student or keen amateur to step forward and help out!
Yes, I know. I've read the thread.

Admittedly I've taken theMusicMan's comments slightly out of context, but it was for a reason.

Irrespective or whether someone might just want to do it anyway, regardless of the cost, my point was that someone who could be earning a lot more than £150 for a day's work might well view doing so as a loss rather than a gain. And if they did take the job would they be putting in their normal level of effort or just £150 worth?

And if that was the case, could you be potentially opening yourself up to spending £150 on something that isn't even worth the money, when you think you're actually getting yourself a budget option?

Expectation levels were what interested me, not the issue of cost.
 
:shake: I really don't get people on here sometimes.

Good luck with the wedding gemc, I don't think you will need a massive budget to make it the most fantastic day of your life :) I just hope someone here is decent enough to step up and be thankful for the experience.
Thanks Mike,

I really didn't expect such a reaction as I got (those who thought i was asking for the world) but a few good people have pm'ed me obviously trying to avoid the handbags being thrown about.

Thanks yet again to all those who've offerd help...appreciated so much more than you'll realise!
 
An interesting quote from "Royston Vasey" on another thread


"I shoot 90 percent off any wedding I do with my Canon 50mm F1.2 L... "

so can we take that if he uses his 50mm 1.2 and charges £1500 then 90% off is equivelent to what Gemc wants to pay £150 :lol:

Or do we take it that all that wedding gear he claims he has, he may as well leave at home as he shoots 90% off or of his weddings on a 50mm 1.2
 
Just stumbled late into this topic - jeez, and I thought singers had egos :eek:

Good luck for your big day Gem :thumbs:
 
Well I have read this thread with a great deal of interest. I was a full-time social photographer for a number of years and I usually did one or two very low priced wedding packages for young couples who could were working to a budget, i suppose it was a bit like a lawyer doing pro bono work. I just covered my expenses and the costs of the film and printing. I usually only did this if I was free or if it was a date that I did not expect to fill (normally a midweek date) and it had to be a genuine budget wedding, if I found out they were scrimping on the photography to enable more money to be spent on a lavish reception then I would not do it.

One of my favourite assignments was for a young bride and groom who were so hard up that they decided to have a midweek registry office wedding and to keep the costs down they had not invited any guests, not one. They bought some new off the peg clothes (nice but not spectacular or expensive), they drove themselves there and back, and to celebrate afterwards went into the City Centre for a meal. They wanted some photographs to mark the occasion and to show their families later. I agreed to shoot a 36 exposure 35mm film, print them to 5 x 7 and put 18 of them in a Lincoln Princess album for them, total cost for this was about £100. How much did I make that day, NOTHING AT ALL, although I did get a couple of weddings later from friend of theirs when they saw the photographs.

Couple of funny things about the day, they forgot that they would need witnesses, so the registrar asked them to go out and find someone, but it was one of the wettest days of the year and there was absolutely no one around, so my wife (who because of the rain had agreed to assist me and hold a brolly etc) and I ended up being their witnesses, and I had to teach the registrar how to take a shot with my outfit so that they were able to get a picture of them with their witnesses (us).

Why was it one of my favourite weddings? Well it was obvious they were very much in love, most of the photographs were very intimate and quite emotional (almost like doing a portrait session for an engagement but in a wedding environment), the weather also gave some great reflections and some lovely shots together under a brolly, together out looking for a witness and the final shot of them before they left, sat in their red car with the brides red & cream flowers on the top of the dashboard with the bride wearing a cream suit and the groom in a grey suit with a red buttonhole which was slightly blurred from the defocussed rain on the windscreen is one of my favourite ever wedding shots.

Oh and Royston, you must be really insecure if you think that you really need 3 professional bodies with backups (what's that then 6?) to do a wedding, I was doing weddings regularly from the early 80s until the late 90s and I only ever had 2 bodies of whatever type I was shooting (2x 35mm or 2x Blads), I never had a problem, quess I must have just been lucky?

gemc: It is a pity I am not closer, I would have done it for you if I had the date free, and I am sure you would have been more than pleased with the results!
EdBray

Hi!!!

after an afternoon of looking after my 8 month old son & trying to get through the abuse (some not as harsh as the word itself) it is much appreciated that there are some people out there who understand my situation, & I'm so thankfull for all the kind offers (& back up) of you kind "togs"!
We're havin no lavish do' or anything...we just want to get married & have a bit of a celebration with our familes afterwards with hopefully a few printed memories to keep.

Thank you all again for your kind help & offers!!!

Gemma x
 
Best of luck with your search Gem.

Bit too far for me to be of any help I'm afraid.

More gutted that I missed out on another row to be honest .... :shrug:
 
Removed another comment that has earned you some time off too
 
An interesting quote from "Royston Vasey" on another thread


"I shoot 90 percent off any wedding I do with my Canon 50mm F1.2 L... "

so can we take that if he uses his 50mm 1.2 and charges £1500 then 90% off is equivelent to what Gemc wants to pay £150 :lol:

Or do we take it that all that wedding gear he claims he has, he may as well leave at home as he shoots 90% off or of his weddings on a 50mm 1.2

I think he means that he shoots 90% of the wedding with that lens. But lets not attack him while he can't defend himself, eh? :)
 
Its nice to see someone who thinks its the mariage thats improtant not the wedding. I wish you luck in your future together :)

Don't worry too much about the negative comments - weddings are always a hot topic around here.

I would consider you offer a good one if i was in a position to take you up on it, but as iam living in kent and Im trying really hard not to shoot weddings (even if my aunt has other ideas) ill leave it to someone with more skill and knowledge.
 
:popcorn:

great thread
 
:popcorn:

great thread

my thoughts exactly matty:D


another thread totally off the hook..

so in times of recession i am glad 150 quid is something everyone can afford to say no to :nuts:

i would do it myself if it was not on that date ..

not saying that the photos would be great .. but .. i am sure the op and her family would love them..

for god's sake i wish pepole " pro" or not would read the whole thread and realise everyone has to start somewhere :wave:

time to sit back and watch the thread again....


ps good luck with your big day...:clap:


md:thumbs:
 
Gem I will do it completely free if you want ....no questions asked or wanted and you will get a nice Album too....
 
Well done Dangermouse, I wish someone had done some of mine (I could not afford a photograher) the dearest thing for my wedding 24 years ago was the licence.
 
For a thread started at 13.45 today, this has been incredible! I'm only sorry that I have a real life and as a result have missed some of the (presumably) deleted comments. The reactions from some people have been unbelievable! I have often wondered how some of these £1,500+ per day people have the time to post so extensively on here, especially at the weekend (isn't that the busy time for weddings?)!

Perhaps some wedding photographers should bear in mind that some of us don't marry just to keep them (or anyone else!) in a job. I've been married to a wonderful woman for several decades but I honestly can't remember when we last looked at The Album. My elder daughter was married last year and I was astonished at the photographic charges - nearly as bad as a lawyer! :lol:
 
I am willing to go over to wherever the wedding is taking place and do the shoot free and even give the couple an expensive album with all shots taken as a gesture of our goodwill from TP

Its no prob to me Gem PM me all the details and you have your photographer(s) free:thumbs:
 
I am willing to go over to wherever the wedding is taking place and do the shoot free and even give the couple an expensive album with all shots taken as a gesture of our goodwill from TP

Its no prob to me Gem PM me all the details and you have your photographer(s) free:thumbs:

"Oh yeah, look at me, I'll do your wedding for free"

Aha, DM I'm joking :)
Just thought I'd carry on the wonderfully tasteful banter from previous in the thread! :thinking:

Congratulations on the wedding and the baby Gem :)
I'd do it for the experience, but it's a 250 mile round trip. Not something I'd like to do for experience alone, especially as I work 7 days a week!

Ignore the muppets on here. A-holes like that are unfortunately popular critters upon forums!
 
Well done DM.
Gem, don't feel bad about the abuse, these wedding threads make for good reading.
Hope you have a great day.
 
When the hell are some of you lot gonna learn? Some people extract the urine.

It wasn`t long ago that somebody played the illness card on here,got a load of stuff FOC and then, after a brief period of inactivity,tried to sell the stuf that she had been given. Graelwyn,if I remember correctly.
 
I'm guessing that you are trying to make a point here, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.

Or how it relates to this thread .... :shrug:
 
When the hell are some of you lot gonna learn? Some people extract the urine.

It wasn`t long ago that somebody played the illness card on here,got a load of stuff FOC and then, after a brief period of inactivity,tried to sell the stuf that she had been given. Graelwyn,if I remember correctly.

You can only act on the information you're given, you can't assume everyone's on the make. :nono:

I was wondering what had happened to Graelwyn though. :thinking:
 
I'm guessing that you are trying to make a point here, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.

Or how it relates to this thread .... :shrug:

Obviously - she's gonna come back, make 90+ posts and sell the photos!
 
You can only act on the information you're given, you can't assume everyone's on the make. :nono:

I was wondering what had happened to Graelwyn though. :thinking:

You were? Seriously?

In fairness to the OP,she made it clear and accurate what she wanted and expected.But,yet again,a wedding thread erupts into chaos.
 
It wasn`t long ago that somebody played the illness card on here,got a load of stuff FOC and then, after a brief period of inactivity,tried to sell the stuf that she had been given. Graelwyn,if I remember correctly.

I was involved in that, but, had I been closer, I would have helped gemc out, as I have on occasions helped out others. She was not asking for a freebie, just a competant photographer to take some pictures of her special day within a budget that she could afford.

Sometimes it is nice to give, yes the Graelwyn incident rankled, but I would not let it sour me from helping someone else, life is too short for that!
 
You were? Seriously?

I must have missed the whole incident as, until you mentioned it, I had no idea something like that had happened. I seem to remember something about her having her camera nicked after a row with her boyfriend? But must have missed what happened after that.
 
And ,sometimes, when one does try to help out,one gets ones pants taken down.

As stated,the OP made it perfectly aware what she expected and what she could pay.

Gem, if you still need the help,I can help, but for £150,don`t expect the world.I don`t think you do.....:)
 
interesting thread, and I am probably one of those who is now branded a 'money grabbing so called professional', but can anyone tell me where it is wrong to suggest a poster look to get the best they can for what is supposedly one of the most important days of their lives?
 
interesting thread, and I am probably one of those who is now branded a 'money grabbing so called professional', but can anyone tell me where it is wrong to suggest a poster look to get the best they can for what is supposedly one of the most important days of their lives?

When that poster has clearly stated the budget and it is quite obvious that they can in no way afford a pro? :shrug:
 
Wow! I just waded though this thread. These wedding threads are sadly, guaranteed to erupt into a flame war. It would be quite funny if it didn't reflect so badly on this forum. Kudos to all those who've offered practical help! :thumbs:
 
I assume therefore that there mum is making the food and the dress is being knocked up by their sister?

I understand budgets and how they want to allocate them but reading through the thread most of the abuse has been by other togs saying the comments are unacceptable
 
Bloody hell, I go out for the day and come back to Armageddon, what are some of you on?! :D

Gemc, good luck with it and by the sounds of things it looks like you have got yourself a photographer. If you had been nearer I would have done it if I was free.

Have a great day!
 
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